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Ballast connection "browning",should I worry about FIRE! (PIC)

Ballast connection "browning",should I worry about FIRE! (PIC)

  • No, chill

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Hell YES!

    Votes: 5 83.3%

  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .

samba

Active member
Hi all.
I noticed today that my ballast (600W) has some "browning" at one of the connection, Should I worry, be in panic or just chill down a bit?
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yamaha_1fan

I am just going to make some observations and comments to start a thought process. I may be wrong.

Is this the only ballast? What kind of circuit?

The wire also looks brown, near the connection. I am thinking there is some type of heat buildup in the connector. Are the connections tight? How old is the ballast? Maybe you need to clean the connectors with sandpaper/alcohol etc to make better contact?
 

TokeItUp420

New member
I would cut off the brown area and re-due the connections. Better off being safe than sorry. And it should only take you 2 min. if that.


Peace...
Toke
 

samba

Active member
I am just going to make some observations and comments to start a thought process. I may be wrong.

Is this the only ballast?
Yes, I only have the one 600 w ballast
What kind of circuit?
25A@240V, if I understand the meaning of the word circuit
The wire also looks brown, near the connection. I am thinking there is some type of heat buildup in the connector. Are the connections tight?
They should be, I haven't checked, but they where when it was installed. There shouldn't be any external heat,(it's not close to anything hot
How old is the ballast?
Not sure,I got it 2nd hand, but I guess about 2 years
Maybe you need to clean the connectors with sandpaper/alcohol etc to make better contact?
I'll try that at lights of
 

samba

Active member
I would cut off the brown area and re-due the connections. Better off being safe than sorry. And it should only take you 2 min. if that.


Peace...
Toke

I'll do that at lights of. I probably don't have the right sandpaper or alcohol anyway...
 

Sweet Inc.

Member
I've seen this in other places too. Looks to me like there was a connection failiure, wich caused a spark. Sparks fly all the time, but we don't see them, because these places are enclosed for a reason. Redo the connection and u should be fine.
But wait for some more opinions if u ain't in a hurry.

Edit: Is the connection for the power cord or the bulb? This could explain something...
 

Stay Puft

Member
Most likely a bad connection like yamaha_1fan said. The bad connection creates resistance which results in heat at the bad connection.

I would cut back the browned part of wire. Also clean the contact area in the screw terminal. (remove set-screw, needle file helps)
Another option would be to move the wires to a unused terminal, but it looks as if that terminal strip is attached to the ballast in you pic.

Keep an eye on it after a couple days and see


The other possibility (less likely IMHO) is a problem with the ballast (load) you could take a current measurement to see if it is drawing too much.
 

Che

Active member
Veteran
Could be a good opportunity to upgrade your ballast, funds permitting. Much cheaper to replace a faulty ballast than to wait for it to fail and take everything out with it...
 

samba

Active member
The other possibility (less likely IMHO) is a problem with the ballast (load) you could take a current measurement to see if it is drawing too much.

This is a interesting point. I was playing around with a watt meter and the light only pulls about 500W+ electricity and its a 600W ballast!
 

samba

Active member
Could be a good opportunity to upgrade your ballast, funds permitting. Much cheaper to replace a faulty ballast than to wait for it to fail and take everything out with it...
You're right, but Id hope to save the ballast, as I'm not to keen on the idea of getting a new one, but I'm less keen on the hole thing burning down, as I sleep in the next room!
 

BeeBee

Member
That wire is clearly over-heating. Is there a way to replace the entire terminal block with individual wire nuts? Or at least this one wire and the wire it connects to?
Also, it looks like that wire is pulling out of the terminal block because it is too short. You can correct that by splicing in a short length of wire, using a wire nut.
It doesn't appear that there is a reason to replace the ballast. But there is definitely a reason to re-wire it.
 

Tranc3R

Member
I've seen this happen to heaps of electronic cables and connectors. Most of the time its just heat affecting the plastic surroundings over a long period of time. You will get heat from cables when there is large draws on them, this doesnt mean they cables are not rated for the job though.

That plastic connector is more than likely brittle, and id be more concerned about the connector falling apart and exposing wandering hands to a live screw down point or cable than fire, so as others have stated, in the name of safety (and not dying) i would take it apart, inspect the connectors and wires, clean the connectors, strip back some of the wire and reconnect a new clean part of it to the terminal. In fact, even possibly think about replacing the entire harness with heavier gauge wires.
 

Sweet Inc.

Member
I've seen this happen to heaps of electronic cables and connectors. Most of the time its just heat affecting the plastic surroundings over a long period of time.

My point in better words.

I play safe and overdo my cables, go for 2-4mm2 cable. US gauge's are beyond my comprehension. Fatter cable=less resistance=less heat.
 
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