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Auto AK47 x NYCD and Sour 60 grow

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ChynaRyder

I have not been posting any of this grow lately due to all of the insanity that moving has created in my life. But, finally things are begining to return to somewhat normal, and my garden finally rejoined me a couple of days ago. right now I have them in a half assed grow space in the corner of my office in the basement. Tomorrow, construction will begin on a more permanent grow room, and I could not be more excited. One thing being up to your ass in snow is good for: lots a indoor projects can finally be tended to.

So, I have 6 aak x nycd fems that are in their 6th week. the only male I got from the pack hermied, so I pollinated them with a bluestreak male. This male initially looked pretty shitty, but really started getting better with age. Was initially a bean pole, but started to get rather branchy late, and really started to purple up. I ended up pollinating them on 12/26 after a day of travelling from Christmas. I had initially intended on doing a limited pollination, but was so strung out from the travels that I ended up hitting them really hard...like as in 5 of the 6 are nearly 100% seeded. hope this cross is a good one, as I will have more than a few beans from it. All of the aks are rather tall and very branchy, vigourous, and beautiful. 5 of them are about 18" tall, and one is about 24". Surprisingly, not a very strong odor, and it is a fuity pebbles/juicy fruit gum primary smell with a sour, rotten background funk. I do not find the aroma very appealing. Some pics, and there are not many because I am uploading through a cell phone, and it takes forever.

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Group 1, and I really like the pheno on the left...thick and meaty, and this one was actually the runt that I considered killing.....

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group 2, and the one on the far right is about 24"

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Now to the Sour 60. 12 of 12 germed, all survived, and 8 are fems. Germed on 12/17/09, which puts them at 20 days, and they have spent all of their time under 234 watts of cfl. I am debating swapping places with the ak's, and letting them finish under the cfls so that the sours can enjoy some LED...but they really look pretty good. I think I will give them another week, and once they really start to explode, Ill putem under the LED. I am not seeing alot of pheno variation in the fems...but it is early yet, and there is some begining to become clear. Some definite separation in the males, and of the 4, I think I am gonna narrow it down to 2, one is very tall (#10)with branching just starting and some slight purpling, and one that is stocky and broad,(#8) and very branchy. One of the better looking af males I have seen.

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The girls all showed sex very early, pretty much at the same time that the boys did...except for 2. Just starting to see some different phenos now that they are starting to take off, but it is still really subtle. No odor from either the boys or the girls at this point. Some pics...

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6 of the 8 fems, and I appologize for the crappy pics, the lighting sucks.

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2 fems in 2 gal pots


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I very well may regret using these pots, but my space is so limited, and my bud needs so big, that I had to do it to maximize space. At least I have the 2 in 2 gallon pots to compare yields to the ones in the window boxes. The ak's seem to be handling the pots well, so hopefully the sours will too. Once I am done with the construction of the new grow room, hopefully on Saturday, I think I am gonna add a 150 w hps. It is so friggin cold here, that I am running a heater in the grow space to keep temps in the 70's. If I am gonna burn the electic anyway, I may as well be generating some bud with it, so the HPS will have a dual role: light and heater, and will let me break out some of the long season beans.

Boy am I excited for these babies to finish :smokeit:
 

coredump

Member
Ur plants look like they are doing very well friend.

I planted my AK's on 24NOV09. They went thru a 2 week period of just a delicious odor. I picked up Fox Farm Big Bloom and, since adding it, the aroma has dropped off somewhat. I'm in an apartment so this is a good thing. All my girls are standin in at 18" and are currently exploding.

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I look forward to seeing how ur turn out. :) The AK's are a lot of fun to grow!
 

sx646522

Member
Hey, Chyna's back! We missed you buddy, nice to see you around again! Hope life settles back down for you soon and you can enjoy it a bit more.

For crappy pics, those are pretty darn good, CR! Things're rockin' out under the LEDs I see, looks like you've got healthy plants all around. If anything, those lights were meant for low phenotype AFs. Not sure about those planters; may be a bit small, but maybe you'll finish ok before the roots do any real complaining. I prefer hydro myself - no root problems there! Maybe you'll have some space to try one of those with AFs in the future, perhaps...I'd like to see more hydro autoflower grows, myself. (Will do one when I get a chance).

You're right, with my old 150W HPS I never had a problem with cold temps, at least during the day. A good dual use of watts if you can run them. Then maybe some heating mats under your plants with a divider for nighttime; much fewer watts used that way.

Hope the New Year is treating you well!

Cheers,

-SX
 

GlassHoler

Member
So, I have 6 aak x nycd fems that are in their 6th week.

Once I am done with the construction of the new grow room, hopefully on Saturday, I think I am gonna add a 150 w hps. It is so friggin cold here, that I am running a heater in the grow space to keep temps in the 70's.

Looking good dude!:dance013:
I'm really interested to see how these genetics turn out. I'm going to be growing both these strains and was thinking about making some seeds... :whistling:

As for the HPS, we installed one in our box and it raised our temps from 68ish to around 79 without fans. Do you think it will add enough heat for your ladies?
Awesome looking grow dude, Pulling up a chair!:smokeit:
 

BC Chronic

Paging Dr.Greenthumb
Veteran
Hey ChynaRyder!! Happy New Year!!
Lookin good....I bought 1 of those same planters last summer only to read auto's need room..your plants will turn out great no matter what..
Hope you get settled in at home..
here is a pic of my girl..bushing right out now and stinking to high heaven...
Peace
 
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ChynaRyder

well, thanks to all for all of the kind words....sorry I have not been more attentive to this thread, but chaos continues. I am almost done with the initial construction of the new grow room...the addition of some proper insulation has gone a long way to helping raise my temps. The thinking now is the addition of about 4-500 watts of additional cfl may be all that is needed. The Sour 60 under the cfls are keeping right up with the 2 that are under the LED, so I am gonna add to the grow space with them. I willl post up some pics of the new room when I am not on my blackberry. pretty sweet 7' x 10' x 9' high room. Ventilation system is next up, with a carbon scrubber for cold months, and direct vent to the great outdoors via the plumbing vents in the warm months. Early samples of the ak.s indicate very good potency, and they still can go almost another 2 weeks. The sour 60 are just knockin my socks off...what pretty little girls, and oh so quick. Now that I heard what Room Raider had to say about em on SaH's thread, I am even more stoked.My concern with the pots is not root area, as they are 6 gallon pots with 3 girls....it is the head space for theses big branchy beauties. We shall see...gotta try it to find out, now don't we. Just put 20 Bluestreak beans in to sprout....time for some buds and fem seeds. I will post up new pics soon, and thanks again to all.
 

vicious bee

Member
Very nice. I'd like to know how the smoke of the AK auto compares to Blue Streak smoke. I'm going to plant some more Blue Streaks soon too and try to make some Fem seeds with them.
 
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ChynaRyder

Finally!

Finally!

Sorry all, all of my spare time has gone into my grow right now, and have not had time to update. My health is going to shit with all of the effort, stress, and NO BUD....so we are gonna put an end to that. So, little rundown on current conditions, aak x nycd heavily polinated with Bluestreak (what a mistake, I have very little medecine now...but thousands of seeds) are just about done. Chopped one today and have been quick drying in a dehydrator that is serving double duty also warming all of the seedlings to 84 degrees F. Potency is excellent, as good as bluestreak, but different. I found Bluestreak to be very body, where this plant is very heady...pretty crappy for pain, which sucks cause that is what is causing my the greatest problems atm. I am gonna make some canna capsules tomorrow, and see how they do that way. Very enjoyable smoke though, up but relaxing, and only slightly racy. The 2 others in the pot with the deceased are in a dark period for the next 36 hrs, and the other pot will go another few days to a week under the cfls, allowing the sour 60 the LED. Currently got 17 Bluestreak sprouts above ground, 10 mish mash, 3 blue moon rocks and 3 c-99 germing, and one power kush (affie x SK#1) fem...Tried a fem blue widow, but seed was non viable. Some pics...

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AAk x NYCD group one, trics are 10% amber. Chopped the one one the left, and the rest are in semi dark. I would say yield is about a 1/4 of really potent bud, and about 5-600 seeds.

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Group2, frosty ladies, that have refined their scent to a light fruity, almost tropical fruity aroma, with just a hint of rotten sourness. Very enjoyable smoke, and I hope the bluestreak boy does his job well, as I will grow this one a lot.

Some nugs

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Boy, are they pretty...


The Sour 60:

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Group 1, tall pheno on the right, and 2 i will call medium pheno...tall pheno is impressive, I will grow alone in a 3 gallon pot next run, and see what they can do. The mediums are also very impressive, chunky and thick...glandular trics at 32 days.

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From the top

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Group 2, 2 med pheno on right, and dwarf pheno on left...I like this little girl, and think she has great potential...will get back to this...Both of these pots have been under cfl since birth.

Now the 2 that are under LED since sexing

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The other dwarf pheno...she's gonna be a little bud cicle, that I could put 4 or 5 of in one of the window boxes, and run a Sog with em...Cant wait to sample the bud...

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I will call this the Sour pheno, cause I looks like the bubble, bushy indi...I am stoked about this one...Slowest to flower...almost thought she wasnt gonna auto...preflowers for 9 days....nothing else, but now shes startin to show me what shes gonna do. She may go 70-80 days, but I am thinkin this may be my meds for the future. The first pic was from 3 days ago, this is today

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Shes gonna be a monster...she is 16" tall, and equally wide, and spreading ouward rapidly at a pace I hope continues for a bit...all lower buds are polinted, and she has withdrawn her pistils...as have all of the girls, and the main colas on all are in tact. Not gonna screw my self for meds again....One last look at the dwarf girl from this evening..

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Like the sati look to the leaf, maybe the high will follow? Is this the BB pheno Md had designated?


Very pleased Mdanzig, great genes we got here,:respect: and I am thankful for the pheno variation...lets me pick whats best for me.

So, just to reinforce how badly I need bud right now...



And why (this is just part of what I have been doing...I gotta whole F'n house i gotta finish too)

This was how the plants were kept when they arrived on site, shortly after christmas, an old kids bunk bed frame with blanket tossed over to keep em warm in the corner of my basement office...So I framed out a 10' x 7' x 9' h room, with spare lumber and sheet rock, insulated with leftover bats, completely sealed with plastic, and ventilated through a 20 lb carbon scrubber made from a rubbermaid.


I have 4 more lights for the upper grow level, and this will be primarily autos and vegging long season girls, and the lower area will be sealed and become a flower area for the c-99, BMR and Ace congo, as well as a couple others. May didvide lower area in half for outdoor production in a month or so, but we shall see.

Sorry for the long post, gotta put it in when I can...

Just read that 81% of the American population supports medical cannibis....Why the fuck am I scared to death that the po are gonna kick my door in? Why am I busy dying at the moment, cause I cannot get enough of the one thing that makes my life comfortable anymore?


I will try to keep this thread going as best I can..but limited conectivity, and my failing health may make it sparse.....Peace yall. and time to get active if you are not already....the time is now.
 
damn bro them sour's are looking sweet along with that beautiful ak, i see that u have been busy as can be..VERY NICE and impressive things u got going on..stay safe man
 
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ChynaRyder

thanks man, been many years since I had a really proper grow space, and i am happy to have this one; and will be building it right.
 
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arcticsun

hiya, real exiting genetics :yes:


looking good, that sour60 sure is a big one. wtg, ill be lurking
 
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ChynaRyder

That 'Sour' pheno is really impressive...

Indeed she is, and the pic does not do it justice...I will take some better shots of this one as she grows, as the branching structure is insane.

Thanks for all of the nice words folks.
 

vicious bee

Member
Yes.Yes.Yes. Those look fine. Thank you for answering my question. Can you mention who made the AK47 x NYCD seeds or is that not allowed? I'm not sure about this. I know you can if Gypsy carries it but it seems sometimes you can when he doesn't and sometimes not. Maybe it's only if he feels they're a close competitor. Which I understand. It's his board.
 
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ChynaRyder

update

update

Just got some more pics uploaded, took some more shots of the bushy Sour pheno, and some of the dwarf.

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So she is 12" tall and equally broad at day 34. She is way behind all of the others in bud formation, but the number of budsite is unreal. I could have given a lot more nutes early on, and had this one bigger, but I think she is gonna continue to grow, and I am gonna LST her tonight, to ensure good distribution of the budsites.

The dwarf, I really like these little girls, I find them really captivating and cute...I dont think they will get over 10". but they will be bud from top to bottom, without wasted space on stems...The slender profile makes me think of growing them in cut off one litre bottles, packed tight in a sog, you could prolly get 4-6 per sg ft. Good production in a small space.

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Her headpiece with nice frost already

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under LED

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The sharp and narrow leaf gets me...

Aaks are still finishing, decided to give em more time to mature seed, too many green seeds in the one I chopped...but she is fine, fine smoke, even with the quick dry. Allows me the time to finish up the beans. If I am gonna sacrifice so much yield, it may as well be for good seeds. A nug

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