Australia/New Zealand's whaling challenge against Japan gets a court date

[PhenoMenal]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-12/australias-whaling-challenge-gets-court-date/4625366

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) has set dates for the hearing of Australia's case against Japan over its whaling program.

Three weeks in late June and early July have been set aside by the court in The Hague in the Netherlands to hear Australia's claim that Japan is in breach of the international convention on whaling.

New Zealand has intervened in the case to lend weight to the Australian argument.

 

[lost in a sea]

yeah they have only been doing it for thousands of years off their shores to the point where it has become apart of their culture,, us wasps dont have any culture anymore so lets destroy everyone elses.. i really have a strong empathy with all life but if the japanese want to eat whale i personally say let them.. just more world police bullshit, sticking our noses in everyones business and fucking it up for them..

 

[PhenoMenal]

the International Whaling Committee (IWC) might be a respectable legitimate body IF its votes weren't so easily bought.

It is a toothless committee, and in the meantime Japan's slaughter of whales for FOOD (science? WHAT SCIENCE? WHY HAVE YOU NEVER SHOWN ANY SCIENCE?) just makes it look like a useless body just wasting money to provide a front for Japan's whale-killing "science".

 

[PhenoMenal]

Lost In A Sea, there is a difference between feeding the family, and what Japan is doing...

Answer me this:
1) Do they NEED to slaughter whales?
2) Do they provide any SCIENCE in respect to the whales they slaughter, or is it purely for food? (and if it's not purely for food why does all of it end up on sale?)
3) Why do they slaughter ENDANGERED species? (yum-yum right?)

EVERYBODY knows that Japan simply exploits a loophole in the law. So why defend that?

Keep in mind that whale meat is generally highly naturally enriched with mercury due to the depths they dive, and isn't actually a very popular meat in Japan.

 

[lost in a sea]

i agree there is a difference that's why i said it was apart of their culture,, i feel they have every right to whale in japanese owned waters like they always have,, outside of that i agree the world police can do what they want..

i would imagine it is purely for food despite them having to say it is for research, but in all honesty i dont know, what science can they do if they are killing it?..

you do know that we in the "west" (the crown) did a hell of alot of whaling at one point?? we had whaling stations all over the globe, and we did it in a completely unsustainable fashion, unlike the japanese.. with the reproductive lifespan of whales it is actually more our fault they are endangered today than the japanese, because it takes many hundreds of years for them to recover..

are we that much better with how we treat our food??

everything in the sea is enriched with mercury, and bisphenol a,, who's fault is that? the internationalist industrialists and their oil based system polluting and burning their way around the globe..

do we need to do all the shit that destroys the environment??

no it isn't that popular your right, just a narrow band of mostly men that we're fed whale meat in schools 40-50 years ago..

fact is japan is not single handedly making whales endangered and stopping them from whaling will not single handedly save them..

 

[PhenoMenal]

Lost In A Sea,
I agree they have whatever rights to do whatever they like in Japanese waters, as every sovereign country has right to.
But they dont go whaling in Japanese waters ...

you do know that we in the west did a hell of alot of whaling at one point??

yes, there's actually a whaling station in Albany south of Perth here that only closed in 1978, two years before i was born.

It's just so sad though that Japan is able to take the entire world for a ride with their "scientific whaling" loophole exploit, but hopefully this upcoming court appearance will put a stop to that.

Japan doesn't NEED to be whaling, most of their population is AGAINST it and never buys whale meat, they never produce any SCIENCE, and the ridiculously high mercury levels of whale-meat is only POISONING their own citizens

 

[lost in a sea]

no i know they dont, because the numbers are so low they have to go looking for them, at one point the whales natural migration brought them very close to japan which is why they started doing it in the first place..

i thought most had closed long before then, just goes to show really..

in any case i feel it is extrememly biased and unfair to blame the endangered status of any whale soley on the japanese..

i'd love to see a list of how many animal species have been made extinct by the "west" (christendom before that) in the last few hundred years compared to the japanese,, it would be at least 1000:1.. in fact, can someone name me one animal that has gone extinct because of the japanese people's actions??

 

[moses wellfleet]

yeah they have only been doing it for thousands of years off their shores to the point where it has become apart of their culture,, us wasps dont have any culture anymore so lets destroy everyone elses.. i really have a strong empathy with all life but if the japanese want to eat whale i personally say let them.. just more world police bullshit, sticking our noses in everyones business and fucking it up for them..

Would you like to be lost in a sea without whales? I usually enjoy your posts mate, but in this case you need to educate yourself. There is nothing 'cultural' about a huge factory ship slaughtering whales commercially thousands of miles from their shores.

I live in South Africa where there is a terrible plague of rhino being poached for their horns to satisfy the demand in Vietnam for traditional medicine. Our country is proud that we protected the rhino and now have a healthy population of them for the rest of the world to come and experience, to now have them murdered by those bastards. But its fine because its been part their culture for thousands of years. I will start a thread on this soon.

Phenomenal good on ya for bringing attention to this issue

 

[PhenoMenal]

in any case i feel it is extrememly biased and unfair to blame the endangered status of any whale soley on the japanese..

NOBODY IS ACCUSING THE JAPANESE OF MAKING WHALES ENDANGERED. (Even though they do target endangered species)

We're simply highlighting the FACT that they're simply slaughtering whales for FOOD by using a loophole that was specifically designed for SCIENCE, NOT FOOD.

JAPAN IS TAKING THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR A GULLIBILITY TRIP ... "yes we eat the whale meat, but its in the name of science!" ... SERIOUSLY? how STUPID do they think we are?????

Science? WHAT SCIENCE. Japan has slaughtered so many whales over the last few decades they should have SCIENCE dripping out of their ears, but there is _NOTHING_. Plenty of mercury-rich meat though...

 

[moses wellfleet]

NOBODY IS ACCUSING THE JAPANESE OF MAKING WHALES ENDANGERED. (Even though they do target endangered species)

We're simply highlighting the FACT that they're simply slaughtering whales for FOOD by using a loophole that was specifically designed for SCIENCE, NOT FOOD.

JAPAN IS TAKING THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR A GULLIBILITY TRIP ... "yes we eat the whale meat, but its in the name of science!" ... SERIOUSLY? how STUPID do they think we are?????

Science? WHAT SCIENCE. Japan has slaughtered so many whales over the last few decades they should have SCIENCE dripping out of their ears, but there is _NOTHING_. Plenty of mercury-rich meat though...

Couldn't have said it better myself. Phenomenal do you also have Southern Rights in Aus, we got loads here?

 

[lost in a sea]

it is apart of their culture there are paintings dating to antiquity showing them hunting/killing whales.. the factory ships are where they slaugter them, they dont hunt them from them so i dont get your point really, but no factory slaughter ships are not cultural, they are a result of modern business practices and exponentially declining fish stocks..

 

[PhenoMenal]

Lost In Sea, it also WAS a part of Australia's early culture, so that "cultural" argument doesn't bring much weight here.

Our culture has moved on, and I'm sure Japan's culture will as well eventually - it's just a matter of time, because most Japanese don't eat whale meat, and nobody wants to eat mercury-rich meat, especially when it costs them so much to send ships to the Antarctic to get them.

 

[lost in a sea]

bah dont kid yourself australia has no culture.. it is crown property, a recent occupation..

that's like americans thinking something a couple of hundred years old is "historic"..

 

[PhenoMenal]

*sigh* You've just proven you know nothing about Australia, so please don't go down that route.

 

[lost in a sea]

go on educate me?

who's culture? dating from when???

as far as i can see it started in the 1780's by colonists,,, that is not culture..

when i said culture for the japanese i was referring to over 2000 years of their association with it..

 

[PhenoMenal]

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[moses wellfleet]

go on educate me?

who's culture? dating from when???

as far as i can see it started in the 1780's by colonists,,, that is not culture..

when i said culture for the japanese i was referring to over 2000 years of their association with it..

Cannibalism has been part of African culture since god knows when. I am an African so by your rationale lost In a sea; may I take a bite out of your arm?

Luckily cultures, even ancient ones, evolve... It's time the Japanese got with the programme!

 

[lost in a sea]

such a strange, and extreme, comparison to make your point moses..

but oh yes you got me there, i mean i dont want to be cannibalised so you must be right the japanese need to get with the program.. the international program..

is cannabalism just an african thing??

 

[PhenoMenal]

*sigh* ...... lostinasea, look, just please forgive me for posting

 

[lost in a sea]

no *sigh*,, please forgive me for replying..