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Arested on sunday, legal advice needed!

TBL420uk

Member
On sunday night i was chillin at a friends house playing on the xbox & having a smoke. Around 9.45pm there was a knock at the door. My friend lives in a terrace house & the frond door opens in to the living room. My friend was expecting his cousin to come round & he never rings when he is about to come round, he just knocks & scares the shit out of everyone.
we both froze when we heard the knocking & my mate was about to call him on his mobile to see if it was him but then the window was then knocked on. Now for some reasson my mate opened the door, even though every part of him was telling himself not to. He opened the door & 4 coppers were stood outside saying they had a warrent for someone they were looking for, then came the dreaded words "I can smell cannabis, are you smoking cannabis in there?" For reasons i still cant work out hid the weed on the floor under a towel rather than sticking it down the back of the setee (aint hindsite a bitch!) I had no weed, but my mate had a small tub with about 2g of Hawaiian snow & 2g of Kali Mist & a very small jar of several lumps off bubble hash.
Now i could hear what my mate was saying & half what the copper was saying. My mate was asking who the warrent was for, but the coppers said they could smell weed & wanted to come in. When my mate said you need a warrent (at the time we both thought he did) but rather than explaining the law the copper just said he didnt need "fuck all, i can do what i want." Then i heard battons getting drawn & my mate been asked if he wants to do it the hard way. The 4 coppers martched in to the living room. They started asking where the weed was & we both said we didnt have any. Then one of the other coppers said he saw me, through the crack in the door, hide something on the floor & pointed to the towel i hid the weed under. Then the copper said pass me it or i will lock you up on remand. We both sat there silent & the copper picked up the towel & found the weed. He then asked my mate if he was growing it & then one of the others went upstairs. The next thing we heard was "Its a factory, 2 floors, about 20 plants, money too." The 1st copper then went upstairs & came back down & said we were both in deep shit. They then handcuffed us & put me in the back of a police car & my mate in the police van, neither of us though had been told we were under arrest or read our rights. The 1st copper, who did all the talking & was a complete ****, also told us he was going to go through all our finances since we left school & do us for every penny that we count acount for. He also said loads of shit to try to be clever in front of the other 3.
We were taken to the station & booked in. Apart from been asked if i understand why i was in there i still had not been told i was under arrest & still had not been told of my rights. I was then strip searched. (take your pants off, lift your cock & balls up, turn around & spread yourass cheeks & squat down & stand up 5 times) & locked in a cell. 10 hourd later i was taken for finger printing & picture then put back in my cell. At 9am i was intervied & only then was i read my rights. One of the coppers who intervied me was the arresting officer who intervied me just under a year ago when i got arrested for production of cannabis, he asked if i had been smoking weed, i said i had smoked a joint on my way to my mates, but didnt have any more, he asked if i was planning to smoke anymore that night & i said no as i didnt have any left. He then asked my why not as my friend had some. I knew what he was trying to get me to say, but no way was i gonna say i smoked any of my mates as that would get him an extra charge off supply added to his charge, i said no because i dont like thr type of weed he smokes cos i didnt like the buzz (i didnt think there would be any point in ssaying i am an indica man& didnt want to smoke any sativa`s. He asked if my mate was "criminally minded" i lauged & said no, then was asked what my mates house is like & does he live outside his meens & did he confide in me & did i know he was growing. No, no & no were my answers, i said i was not shocked that my friend was growing but not not supprised that he didnt tell me as he has been in trouble for it twice before & i have been done for it once before so i can undertand why he would be so secretive. (luckily neither of the 2 coppers interviewing me had been to the house cos if you went to the loo on the 2nd floor you can see through the open door of the bedroom & see his 2 grow tents & see ducting from the fan, which you could also hear plus you could see the light coming through the air vents at the bottom of the tent. Plus some empty plant pots in the bathroom give it away (especially as he has no garden!) After the interview i went back to my cell for half an hour untill i had to go see the nurse (which i hadn`t asked to see) when i asked how much longer was i going to be there i was told as soon as my mates intervies was over & they had decided what the charges were going to be.
Around 11am, 13 hours after arrest we were let out, i had bee refused charge & my mate was charged with cultivation of a class B drug & bailed untill march. We were told that the search was legal & even though they had no warrent they were in their rights to enter the house as they thought a crime was been commited.
Now my mate had £2285 in a shoe box upstairs, he asked his brief before the interview about the money & was told it would be on the property siezed list so my mate never mentioned it in interview, but when he was released & got the property sheets the money wasnt on there, the robbing bastards took the lot!
They also took his 2 day old 40" HDTV, xbox 360 & my joypay & 3 games, which both me & my friend said were mine but i didnt get them back, also i have not got my mobile phone back as it was on my mates shelf & was booked in with the stuff they took.
My friend also has had mental helth problems & can not be interviewed or strip searched without an apropriate adult, but they fucked up & strip searched him without one.
I am looking for anybody in England that can help us with legal advice. we were not given a proper explination as to why they came in the house, they stole over £2000 & conducted the strip search of my mate when they should not have. To top it all sunday was my birthday & my friends cat died on wednesday, its been a pretty shit year so far!


PS please excuse any spelling mistakes & poor grammer.
 

Rednick

One day you will have to answer to the children of
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Sounds like you got robbed.

You need to fight that Class B upgrade in your country. Scientific ministers get booted for arguing against the re-classification of a Class C to a Class B of Cannabis.
 

lowrdr

Member
if they come to your door and smell cannabis they have the right to enter without a warrant. its a little trick they use if they know your dealing/using, they knock on say theyre looking for someone and BAM they smell weed and ur all busted. pretty harsh about the 2000 but id keep your mouth shut about it as then it looks like hes dealing. all in all is say take ur punishment and move on. and DONT open the door next time ;)
 

nnep

Member
That's horrible news, i'm sorry to hear that. While i can't give you legal advice, i can tell you a few mistakes you made.

Don't ever open the door for the police if you have anything in the house that you don't want found, plain and simple. If the police are at your house in the first place, you've messed up somewhere, but if they don't have a warrant, they can not legally come in! If they had a warrant your door would be kicked down and everyone would shit their pants.

Next, your buddy opened the door when you had been smoking, STUPID STUPID STUPID. You should never open the door in the first place because they can say they smell pot if they want to be dicks (they probably will if they know you're growing pot, they're not dumb). That's game over right there, they were well within their rights to search legally.

Next, if you got popped once for growing, and your friend grows and has been popped. Why the hell would you be there smoking with him at his grow op!?!

Don't do stupid things people!
 

fizzy187

Member
Mate, near manchester theres a company called express solicitors.. they've only helped me with a personal injury but could help you if you asked.. google em up - i paid no fees after a successful smooth claim...

Im sad to hear how them pigs treated you.. You should have ran..actually i guess it wasnt a possibility.

What you need to do is find out why they came to your mates.
Then you need to right down the events as you wrote here... acting as a personal statement of apprehension..how you beleived you was treated.

You can then appeal somehow,somewhere...but best bet is to do alot of googling and check on statute laws between production and cultivation.

Your mates money is long gone mate,no official record nor mention in interview its a word on word shitfest if you pursue that.

Your mobile can be authenticated to be belonging to you (they will have read the txts) so its likely you will get it back..

As for the way in which they treated you...go to the media..please, they will pay you and it will make it more widespread.

See they beleive that if theres a grow up there and money,if they help themselves...you got no leg to stand on because your more likely to be into other deeper stuff that you'd rather not want to raise an eyebrow too..

I like how you answered the interview. did you raise your concerns with them about your rights and why they had arrested you in such a disrespectful manner? Your not a criminal,your a citizen.

Cheers
 

TBL420uk

Member
Cheers for the replys, my mate is going over & over in his head as to why he answered the door, he has had trouble with the bloke next door & thought it might be him when the banging started on the window. I know it was dumb to answer the door but its done. I "retired" after my bust last year & my mate is not planning to grow again, even though there is no proof thay the money was took, my mate can account for every penny a he saved £50 every 2 weeks till he reached £2500 (in the UK if you are out off work you have to declare savings of over £3000) & he can`t open a bank account to put it in. I know our world against the police wont meen muc, but it might raise a few eyebrows at the station cos if you throw enough shit some will stick. My friend went to another solicitor to take advice as the one he had told him he has a bad attitude & thinks the world is against him! Lots of people on any scitzo drugs think people are after them & most people, cos i did, have a bad attitude after being looked up for 13 hours!
TBH i think his brief may have got a cut, they are all freemasons together! Bastards!
& to top it off my mate called half an hour ago to tell me his cat had to be put down on wednesday too!
 

edux710

Member
i feel you, this almost exact thing happened to me. but im in Cali and i had a 215 rec...

sucks how they do you like that, no need to treat a fellow human with such hate..
 

Phillthy

Seven-Thirty
ICMag Donor
Veteran
i wouldnt have said shit in the interview without an attorney. lawyer up and their attitude changes a bit.
 
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cheesey

Cheers for the replys, my mate is going over & over in his head as to why he answered the door, he has had trouble with the bloke next door & thought it might be him when the banging started on the window. I know it was dumb to answer the door but its done. I "retired" after my bust last year & my mate is not planning to grow again, even though there is no proof thay the money was took, my mate can account for every penny a he saved £50 every 2 weeks till he reached £2500 (in the UK if you are out off work you have to declare savings of over £3000) & he can`t open a bank account to put it in. I know our world against the police wont meen muc, but it might raise a few eyebrows at the station cos if you throw enough shit some will stick. My friend went to another solicitor to take advice as the one he had told him he has a bad attitude & thinks the world is against him! Lots of people on any scitzo drugs think people are after them & most people, cos i did, have a bad attitude after being looked up for 13 hours!
TBH i think his brief may have got a cut, they are all freemasons together! Bastards!
& to top it off my mate called half an hour ago to tell me his cat had to be put down on wednesday too!

so your mate saves £50 out of his giro every 2 weeks . so he lives on £70 ish every 2 weeks for food bills heating water bill gas bill rent ect ect . he must be some skinny dude . just tell the truth . the cash was from selling ya herb and not from the giro
 

Scrogerman

Active member
Veteran
Yeah sorry to hear what happened but your mate is pooed' & the cash gone, forget about it or report it to internal affairs, if you do that though the coppers are gonna have it in for you forever. Best thing your buddy can do is put his hand up to personal use & play like fuck on his illnesses, doctors reports go a very long way when presented to a judge. Yeah coppers dont need warrents these days contrary to popular belief, they just make up any old excuse to gain access(say they think a crime was being commited etc) & just push their weight around-THEY ARE THE LAW(Filth) afterall. get them Doc reports and any other official body who helps that guy with his illness. I know a guy who recently played on his epilepsy got away pretty much with growing 27 plants (in the UK) & ended up being prescribed - is it Sativex or something like that, its the Cannabis sublingual spray that may help with his condition(lucky fucker), what a blagger lol- but True!!Gospel!! but good luck to him for being a clever fucker! Play on that illness like fk dudes!
Peace & watch out for knocks on the door.................Scroger'

BTW- it sounds to me like this guy was grassed up, if it was uniform coppers i can virtually garentee it!-watch who you think may be your friends, may just be jelious fuckers you always have cash and a supply of great buds, jeliousy is a fucker and sinks many ships like loose lips! Peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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