Area preperation ??

[HeD333]

Hey Guys.. I've completed 3 indoor hydro grows and am about to attempt a grow of Rez's Sour Diesel IBl, outdoors and maybe some skunk#1...
What do I need to do to prepare the soil?
I planned on getting like 10 bags of nute-less soil and digging a plot out, filling it with soil, an planting previously propagated plants there.
Do i need to do anything to adjust the Ph? Anyone have a suggestion about feeding/watering? What nutes do you use? Popular brands of soil??/
i live in a pretty remote rural midwest location, so if you can get it at Walmart it's all the better. Let me know
-HeD

 

[SpacemanSpliff]

You probably don't have to take a pH test of the soil, bagged soil should have a good pH already. That's what you pay for.

The soil I use and swear by is Faxfarm Ocean Forest. Great stuff, the difference is amazing. I'm not sure how easy it is to get where you are, though. I used Metanaturals Organic Nitrogen Mix, TMI, glacial rock dust, alfalfa meal, Dr. Earth Bud & Bloom, and Dark Energy last year. I got pretty good results, 3 lbs from 2 plants in 27.5 gal containers.

 

[PureSativa420]

the things you need to grow outside are very easy

all you really need is a place to grow

a pickaxe, shovel, machete, hatchet

water, this can either be carried in on back or from a lake, river or what not

6 or more hours of sun light ( south facing is the best )

stakes and rope for later on when they get huge

ferts i usually have fish emlusion, bone and blood meal, worm castings, but if you dont want to go organic route of things you can use bascially any kind of ferts on the plants and they will love it and some people use no nutes at all and have wonderful results

so yea now you have all your supplies and ready to grow! now you get to do some work with the pickaxe and shovel , general rule of thumb outdoors is a 2 x 2 x 2 hole or bigger ( bigger the hole the bigger the plants ), once youve dug the hole you can fill it with your nutes, perlite, bought soil and some of the dirt you taken out of course ( i like to water the hole before planting to get things a rolling )

now you might need to cut some of the tree limbs back or dense weed ect luckily you have the machete and hatchet to do so

basic gurilla gardening plot of mine in april

 

[Guest423]

are you sure u can pull them strains off in time in your area?

your options for outdoors are unlimited....u can go with alot of plants or not alot of plants, u could go big or small size plants, use the dirt thats already there if it's decent dirt or add any other dirt or additives u want. it all depends on your area and how your soil is....sandy...clay....black.....that depends on what u need to add.

and ofcourse you need your supplies....mostly what puresativa said and your set...good luck

peace

 

[HeD333]

SpacemanSpliff: I've heard good things about foxfarm too. Is it nuteless?

PureSativa: what about pest concerens? i know for a fact I have deer.. what keeps them away? will they F with the diesel

Time2Unite: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. my last frost is apr 15, first frost oct 15, thats a nice window for these plants. My soil is good for growing crop, but i'm going to get some nuteless soil and perlite, just for the control element, plus, I have liqiud nutes that are fine for soil and soilless applications, and they're two parts

Anything else you guys? What sort of perlite mix do you use? 50/50?

 

[PureSativa420]

well the way i take care of deer is by illegally killing them off season with a cross bow and skinning them near my plants and taking what i want and can use home to eat later on , nothing that scares off animals more then the smell of fresh blood

but there are numerous ways to keep animals at bay, such as a fence, 2liter bottles over the plants (cut in half wit the cap left off ), pissing on a old gym shirt, spreading irish spring soap, using dog and human hair, can also get a product called liquid fence, usually when a deer eating a plant its early in the season when there isnt much green around them to eat and well your plants are green and looks like a nice meal

using cayanne pepper and other spices might work as well, also heard of pepper spray

beer cans and copper wire can help keep snails and slugs off your plants, then you have your other pests! grasshoppers, ants, white flies, and these things i call leaf hoppers then small green like bugs that when you shake or move what there on they simply hop to another leaf or plant, so you might want a praying mantis in the area or something while your at it

 

[HeD333]

PureSativa: Fav soil mix perlite + foxfarm? any thoughts?

 

[pipeline]

nothing that scares off animals more then the smell of fresh blood

Some animals will be repelled by the smell of fresh blood, sure, but carnivores will be attracted. Now, that can be good and bad. Good because predators will be around there leaving scent and pissing and scaring off things that way. Bad because now you have predators close to the growsite, smashing down vegitation, and possibly smashing down your babies.

 

[sm0kateer4204]

fox farms is expensive shit. not worth the price in my opinion. if you want to add you own nutrient's with their watering's that just great but make sure you show up when they need it. and theres no point in buying nice soil either just get a bag of perlite and a couple bags of the cheapest dirt around. my cheapest dirt is about 3 dollars for a 50 pound bag it's quite sandy but will work just fine if you plan on adding your own nutes for it doesnt have any. and remember one of the most important rules of outdoor growing is only visit your plants when you have to, never go and visit them just to see how much they have grown ect... and watch the weather channel so you know when its last rained so you can time your watering's

 

[PureSativa420]

Some animals will be repelled by the smell of fresh blood, sure, but carnivores will be attracted. Now, that can be good and bad. Good because predators will be around there leaving scent and pissing and scaring off things that way. Bad because now you have predators close to the growsite, smashing down vegitation, and possibly smashing down your babies.

not around here, there arnt wolves, coyotes or anything looking to eat another animal, as i live bascially in a city (well at the far end), all around me on one side is businesses and busy streets and on the other side is all woods and the train tracks


i dont really have a fav soil mix for outside as i usually just use the dirt i dig up not fat from the site and carry it in and mix it with some organic ferts and then wait a week and plant usually

 

[SpacemanSpliff]

SpacemanSpliff: I've heard good things about foxfarm too. Is it nuteless?

No, it's actually fairly hot for a planting mix, but it's not too hot to start seedlings in.

sm0kateer4204: It may be expensive, but you get what you pay for. I've seen it compared side by side with several other soils, including a home made one, and nothing else comes close. The difference in dramatic. And anyway, it pays for itself. If you happen to live close to Arcata, you can even buy it in bulk for almost half price.

 

[HeD333]

if I use the foxfarm.. do I ever need to do anything but water? do I need to supplement them? sorry if I'm asking alot.. but it is my first outdoor grow.. and diesel seeds aren't cheap

 

[pipeline]

They will survive if all you give them is water and you use foxfarm soil. But they will likely develop a nutrient deficiency, and end up smaller and yielding less than a plant that has been fed adequately and hasn't been nute deficient.

If i were you, i'd use your foxfarm soil with plant-tone organic fert by espoma mixed in. You will want to use dolomitic or calcitic lime to raise the pH that will be lowered from microbes breaking down organics in the plant-tone.

Until the plants are about 3-4 weeks old, they should be in a different mix using a soilless media without any fertilizer (not foxfarm), because seedlings are very sensitive to nutrient levels. In both mixes it would be a good idea to add vermiculite and/or perlite for improving aeration, drainage, and nutrient holding capacity(vermic. only) of the soil.

 

[bushmaster113]

You can also use pots and cut the bottom off the pot and place down in the soil a few inches. Gives the roots more space and water access, but if your growing in a wet environment, swampy and such it will keep enough roots in a drier environment to gain O2.

 

[SpacemanSpliff]

Yes, you will have to add other nutrients to the foxfarm, but not at first.

 

[PureSativa420]

i dont like to cut the bottoms off my buckets and let the plant grow into the ground but i dont live were its all swampy and needed, so to each there own, also i would think the plant wouldnt get to big as most of the roots are inside the bucket and cannot grow outwards but downwards ( why i never tried double potting )

 

[HeD333]

I'm with you PureSativa, my roots will go into the dirt directly.. not into a pot into the dirt.. just like nature intended..... will keep you posted
On to the issue of THIS post....

Do time-release nutes affect the end flavor of the product?

I know to flush to get rid of the taste nutes in the plant leave behind, but with the time-release nutes in FoxFarm being in the soil @ all times... does the flavor diminish due to nutes still being in the soil, despite flushing? Are these nutes water-soluble so that with enough flushing.. they just drain off with the runoff?