Are these spider mites or broad mites?

[Organic Panic]

Thought I might have very early broad mites, bit these are big enough to be seen with my eyes. I've always been lucky to have really good eyes though.

I'm not sure how to get the pics in my post but I have put up some pics in my gallery here on the site.

I also have a video of 1 on some purple cardboard running. You can see the hairs sticking out to the back on its butt. Not sure if allowed but if so here is a link to the video which shows much more details. Was taken with a pretty good phone cam through a 30x loupe. https://linx.li/rhs5e7pl.mp4

First run in notill coots mix. Always been an organic bottled guy before this. Really want to save my dirt.

I've sprayed twice with spinosad, with a spray of sb plant impover in between. All 2 days apart.

I'm at 11 days into flower.

I'm thinking spray another 1 or two times with something else depending on what these actually are and then going balls deep with some predators.

Any help is appreciated. I'm in the uk if that makes any difference.

 

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Here is another link to the video where you can stream it instead of downloading it.https://gofile.io/?c=FUZBJ0

 

[thailer]

those are not broad mites. the video looks like a soil mite especially with the hairs on the butt end. it moves pretty fast too which is a sign its a benefical mite. broad mites are way too small to see with your eyes, even if you have good vision. normally you don't see them on the leaves like that but i have found them on my plants. it also looks like you have some damage to the leaf too. sometimes spider mites when they're new won't have spots on them yet but still the body shape and hairy butt is not the shape of a spider mite which have a pointy butt end and no hairs at all.

sometimes soil mites show up in large populations when you over water or the soil doesn't have good drainage. i found a mite just like yours on my plants a while back and sprayed some plants. ended up ruining a plant so bad i had to toss, several others had some leaf damage from a poorly mixed oil based spray. i never saw any other signs and after ruining a perfectly good plant from reacting out of fear rushing myself which lead to the mistake, i really don't think it was a spider mite. i think i ruined perfectly good plants over a soil mite. so maybe just watch them daily and see if there's progression of damage or if they develop spots because it looks like a soil mite to me.

 

[Noonin NorCal]

from the first picture they kind of look whiteflies?

 

[thailer]

i've never seen white flies in washington but when you look up the life stages, the juveniles look like those little mites too. its not like soil mites to be all over the leaf like that and there is damage. if i see one on a leaf, it's always a low leaf at soil level.

 

[Organic Panic]

Glad to hear it's not broad mites. And hopefully not spider mites.

Re beneficial soil mites: I have had the soil too wet for a bit. I've been trying to get my blumats dialed in but it's been a bit of a struggle. Had a run out the other day as well that flooded the pond liner. So hopefully that's it. I did find the damaged leaf about 8-10 inches above the soil. I have o ly looked at the damage leaves which weren't there before I sprayed. Last spray i forgot tikka as a wetting agent so its possible that its water lens burn but not sure if that's even possible under super diffused led lighting very similar to fluence spydrs.

I'm going to look for more on leaves closer to the soil and if I find more I'm going to put the infected leaves in a jar and keep checking on them to see if they change into anything else to rule out the spider mite and whitefly possibility.

I did see a couple of things that I thought might be white flys a while back when I mixed the first up and used some of my own worm castings. I haven't seen any since. I have seen a few things flying around but ice only ever confirmed fungus gnats which seem to always be around I tiny numbers. Only thing I find on the yellow sti ly traps too.

I did a massive panic as soon as I saw them and sprayed right then. Been in a panic for days over this. I hope so hard that it turns out to be benefitials from the soil!

 

[Revolutionary9]

Sounds like you did the right thing. I'd just give em a spray 3 days apart.