are these babies overwatered??? (with pics)

[The St.]

not too sure, but i think these are overwatered? ive been reading around here and guess this is the case? i didnt really think i gave them too much... i just transplanted them into these pots today, they have looked like this for a few days now... i need help!



















please click on the link to my grow cab if you have q's about my soil or anything. ive given them plain water every 2-3 days and 1 feeding of fish/seaweed organic liquid fert of 2-3-1 and a MINUTE amount of superthrive. any help would be great!

Thanks!
Peace

 

[10k]

yes they're overwatered and too soon with the fish, especially taking the guanos in your soil into consideration.
ps...Forget about the superthrive too, not needed.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

theyve got nutrient toxification..too much nutes!!! flush the pots with RO water(distilled/drinking) i bet ur using tap water... there way curly

 

[MynameStitch]

I am definatly going to be going with 10K on this matter,

As for Digital Happy's post: flushing them now will only further the problem..... if they show signs of burn you will have to remove them from that soil into some seed starter mixture......

Flushing the soil with plants that small will never recover, there root systems are to damn small and will never be able to absorb all that water that is left over after a flush..... so the only alternative is either let them die, or get them out of the soil if they start to show nutrient burn.....

How often are you watering and how much?
Since you just transplanted, if they show issues you may have to get them into a different soil......

Right now they are overwatered, at least the rest of the soil is not soggy... just to much water where the main tap root is..... fan blowing on the soil will help it dry out.. but it can't be a strong fan.. just one that sways it back and forth a bit....

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

I am definatly going to be going with 10K on this matter,

As for Digital Happy's post: flushing them now will only further the problem..... if they show signs of burn you will have to remove them from that soil into some seed starter mixture......

Flushing the soil with plants that small will never recover, there root systems are to damn small and will never be able to absorb all that water that is left over after a flush..... so the only alternative is either let them die, or get them out of the soil if they start to show nutrient burn.....

How often are you watering and how much?
Since you just transplanted, if they show issues you may have to get them into a different soil......

Right now they are overwatered, at least the rest of the soil is not soggy... just to much water where the main tap root is..... fan blowing on the soil will help it dry out.. but it can't be a strong fan.. just one that sways it back and forth a bit....

so if there dead anyways why not flush the soil. if its hot then nothing will gorw now or ever. you also mean that gravity isnt enough to drain the small pot? i did think it would be a tad wet for a few days. but he needs to rid the plant of the toxicity if there going to be worth anything to him.

edit*
you can even see the ring of where the soil is wet/dry so im venturing to say when you water nothing comes out? also using tap with high PH could cause lock-up asmuch as anything..

next run RO might be a better option..

 

[MynameStitch]

IF they are dead, why flush the soil... will just be a waste; they are so small you can re use the soil cause you do not have to worry about roots being in the mixture......
Flushing would waste the soil's nutrients.

Gravity would drain the pot, BUT if there is nothing in the pot in the area where the water is, it will sit there reguardless of gravity.... how is air going to get into an area to dry it out if nothing is spacing it out? Perlite would help, but a good flush with that pot size will not dry it out in time for that root system to recover....

It would take a lot more than a few days to rid that plant of the excess water, because not only will it still be very wet, the roots will be stavred of o2 thus slowing the transpiration down and then you have more water sitting in the pot that is not being used......

The plant that size WILL die.

RO would not be a good option for plants that size, reason is, they still need calcium and magneisum; I have seen so many plants get stunted from using RO water on seedlings.... very slow growth because they never added cal mag to the water.....
You can use it as long as you add the cal mag... but there are other additives in water that would help the seedlings, so I would recommend people not using RO water until they get big enough to use nutrients.

Right now it's not the water type is the problem; it's the amount or watering to often not allowing the soil to dry out in the area where the roots are.

 

[The St.]

the soil they were in had no nutes, just promix pgx and perlite, they were in that for about 1.5 weeks. not sure if that makes a difference. how should i go about fixing this, not water until theyre pointing back up?

thanks alot everyone!

Peace

 

[MynameStitch]

Yes, do not water for awhile, use a fan in there to help dry out the soil.....

also I need to know how much you were watering and how often?

 

[The St.]

theyre looking much better already guess they were a little damp! theyre starting to reach back up and uncurl. i have a fan in there for cooling the lights and keeping airflow around the plants that has seemed to dry them out pretty well. i plan on getting a few more of these (pc fans).

stitch, i was giving them about 1oz of water every other day or so. i use a turkey baster for watering. i was also using a 1:5 ratio of h2o2:water. they are showing a nitrogen dificiency now, which i know is a side effect of overwatering, im gonna give em a few days and hopefully they get ahold of some of that guano!

thanks alot!!!

Peace

 

[MynameStitch]

Ya, even an oz of water at that rate of every other day is to much, now if you were giving them an oz every few days like every 3 to 4 days...... that would be different.


Yes, lack of o2 in the soil makes nitrogen harder to be absorbed, it will go away just let it recover, do not feed it nutrients yet.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

every now and then i let my veging plants soil get real dry ive herd it makes the roots look for water.

always learning..
sorry about the confustions stich. i usualy 'add-back' the cal/mag *(sensical has all the secondary minerals, boron,mn,Su etc) i guess its a tadd to involving for him at this point. i just dont like chlorine/chloromine, or the other stuff in my local 650ppm ph8.3+ tap water.

 

[The St.]

cool, theyre definitely looking better. guess that soil is drying nicely. thanks alot again!!

Peace