Are some strains too mouldy for you to grow?

[Treevly]

I mean inside, mostly. Outside, mould is very problematic. If you have a strain which is very productive, and has tight buds which mould very easily, could it be just too difficult to deal with mould indoors, or is control sufficient for you to grow the stuff indoors?
Thanks

 

[I'mback]

VPD! Learn it and use it

 

[Treevly]

VPD! Learn it and use it

Thank you for the excellent reply.

What is YPD?

The first few wee Yakima Police Department, yeast extract dextrose, and the Yuma Police Department.

 

['Boogieman']

I had C99 get pm indoors, was easy to treat with green cure though. I assume your talking about boytris though? I grow Indoors in winter with a low humidity and never had any form of bud rot yet.

 

[soil margin]

I haven’t ran into any. Dehumidifier will take care of pretty much anything when it comes to mold or mildew indoors.

 

[indagroove]

Thank you for the excellent reply.

What is YPD?

The first few wee Yakima Police Department, yeast extract dextrose, and the Yuma Police Department.

http://www.just4growers.com/stream/...-deficit-the-hidden-force-on-your-plants.aspx

 

[madalasatori]

I grew a critical plant once that impossible to grow without rotting, even with very low rh and lots of airflow. The buds were extremely dense and hard.

 

[Treevly]

Thanks or those answers. Yes, the Critical example is the thing I was wondering about. Big dense buds can be problematic.

 

[f-e]

I had a pineapple variant of SK1 who's resin was amazingly liquid. It could dampen a rizla with a single wipe kinda liquid. Big dense buds, that even at week 7 were starting to go. Room conditions were not really effecting the climate within these things, so upmost cleanliness was required as the buds formed, and an early chop. It was very special though. I kept it years and years.

 

[Treevly]

THAT'S an interesting story.

 

[bushed]

I grew a northern lights x bigbud that would put out the most insane large compact buds when grown in sog, which is my prefered method for maximum production in a small space. In the end i had to top it because the rot would always set in didnt think of dehumidifier. Lost that lady was a sad day, ticked all the boxes, wasnt the most potent but had a really up lifting happy high.

 

[indagroove]

I've recently started to wonder how terpenes may affect mold resistance. I saw this article which mentioned limonene being an anti fungal. Makes me wonder if high limonene strains may be more mold resistant.

https://knowthecause.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-d-limonene/

 

[St. Phatty]

Seems like mold-prone buds tend to be the plants we like.

Guess they need low humidity environments and lots of daily inspections.

Including after harvest.

 

[Treevly]

I grew a northern lights x bigbud that would put out the most insane large compact buds when grown in sog, which is my prefered method for maximum production in a small space. In the end i had to top it because the rot would always set in didnt think of dehumidifier. Lost that lady was a sad day, ticked all the boxes, wasnt the most potent but had a really up lifting happy high.

I wonder which side of the family was rotten.

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

Genetics can definitely play a big role in mold resistance. Of course, dense flowers any larger round than a coke can are susceptible, but there seems to be other factors as well. Maybe terpene profile? My Oreo makes colas that get fairly solid at 10 weeks (indoors) but outdoors its gigantic colas seem more mold resistant than other plants. It could be due to it's 50% Durban Poison genetics.

I would guess that any strain that's had a few years of selection outdoors will have better mold resistance than an indoor bred one. There are definitely strains from the Emerald Triangle that have been bred for resistance, but I can't think of one ATM. Maybe someone else knows? Some people say the dutch strain 'AMS' stands for anti mold strain, but I was told it stood for the Amdam airport letters.

 

[moose eater]

I've had fellow growers who grew my 1997 Dronkers' Sensi Seed Bank California Indica clones (my 21+-year old productive, potent, and smelly girl) tell me that she's prone to bud rot/mold, but with sufficient air flow, I've not had that problem.

That said, some of them were running remote generators for power, which meant that during non-run times, they didn't have any air movement from electricity. That's counter to an advantage I've had, and over time, I've learned to keep 1/3 of my box-specific air (~115 cfm's out of ~345 cfm's per box) running during off-hours, with the whole-room 460 cfm fan that pulls through the entire shop, exiting the carbon filtration box, running 24-7.

In fact, when I get more energy up (maybe never), I intend to take out my 460 cfm whole-shop 8" in-line/in-duct centrifugal fan, and replace it with similar, but on a rheostat, so I can better regulate heat in the shop, and not have the RH in there so low in the Winter. Hopefully without exacerbating moisture issues...

On the "one of these days; hopefully soon" list of hall of shame projects. Right up there with the 'Board of the Month Club' membership, where my 10-year-old aging greenhouse project sits, crawling its way to completion.... Like a quadruple-amputee on Quaaludes..

 

[starke]

This was mentioned in an earlier post...VPD. Reading this thread is highly recommended:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=112862

Peace,
starke

 

[Treevly]

I've recently started to wonder how terpenes may affect mold resistance. I saw this article which mentioned limonene being an anti fungal. Makes me wonder if high limonene strains may be more mold resistant.

https://knowthecause.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-d-limonene/

Funny you should say that..... This year I grew a medium-height strain, a mixture of Western Himalayan Kushes, not a USA or Amsterdam thing. On the grow (outdoors) it was very low odour, and I have a good sniffer. I gave a bud to a friend (I can't smoke right now) and he said "That stuff really tasted like lemons." Reading the above post, it reminded me that the plants had no mould at all, despite growing in a fairly humid area and near a swamp and creek. Perhaps "lemon" is anti-mould, indeed!

Also, I agree with the above suggestion about Durban being mould-resistant. I wish it were not so tall.

 

[f-e]

I wonder which side of the family was rotten.

Almost certainly the bigbud.

Outdoor this year, I did dfg and fast diesel. Both 5 foot stocky plants you couldn't see through. Easy 5 or 6 ounce on each. But I will never know. I didn't get a single spliff off either. Looked them over from top to bottom, and just pushed them over. They're compost now.

It was a very bad year, and I did go out late to fetch them. The Serious6 was monsterous, but just some of the lower stuff made it. We estimated 80% losses, but still got a couple off each.

One plant was outstanding. The Critical Sour. It was big, but no huge buds. On other years it might of been mediocre, but it's lack of monstrous individual buds, might be what saved it's ass. There was very little mould, and each did maybe 3.

My numbers won't be a great guide. I left behind enough to have people jumping up and down contesting my decision. I just like good buds.

I'm doing the Critical Sour indoors now, to see if it's a year round keeper. The 6 works indoors, but it's just mids. I have spent the last month smoking mainly the outdoor sour though. I really want to see it indoors.

 

[Drewsif]

Get your microbes and minerals in check and mold isn't an issue indoors. Only bottle growers get mold indoors. Healthy plants healthy soil, a lost ancient tradition.