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anyone not using coco specific nutes?(can it be done?)

Wav3F0rm

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title pretty much explains everything. If not using coco specific nutes, i know it releases potassium and with holds calcium, is there a way around this? thanks.

Alternatively, anyone just not worrying about it and using whatever without problems?
 

pinecone

Sativa Tamer
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I'm using coco-perlite-castings (50-30-20) with a couple different types of guano and some kelp meal. I don't do any EC, ppm, or pH metering. Works for me.

Pine
 

Andyo

Active member
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cocopeat/perlite50/50

cocopeat/perlite50/50

Using standard 2 part hydro nutes.low ec o.8 -1.0 Ph 5.5 in as i find ec builds up initially.A
 

Azeotrope

Well-known member
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Jack's Pro Hydro + CalNitrate in tap water DTW with precisely 0 issues. I think that the Coco specific thing is overblown sometimes. I add a little Potassium Silicate every other watering or so as well. PH settles @ 5.5 - 6.5

Excellent growth, no stress and cheap!
 
Maxibloom - 1tsp/gal
Cal Mag - .5tsp/gal
Gravity - 1ml/gal - two weeks prior to flush
H20 molasses - 1tsp/gal - two weeks prior to flush
H2O - last week

that's it!! easy as pie!! coco specific what? What is that?
 

Sam87

Member
I'm running Dyna-Gro, with added Cal-Mag+ and a prebuffered coir. The girls love it, no weirdness to speak of. The coco nutes are made to be easy, but there's always a work around for whatever you want to design to. The trick question is whether it's worth doing, and I can say that for me, it is.
 
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NachoConQueso

anyone not using coco specific nutes?(can it be done?)

I'm running Dyna-Gro, with added Cal-Mag+ and a prebuffered coir. The girls love it, no weirdness to speak of. The coco nutes are made to be easy, but there's always a work around for whatever you want to design to. The trick question is whether it's worth doing, and I can say that for me, it is.

Hey got some questions for you. Are you using RO or tap water on that? And what brand of coco are you using?
 

Wav3F0rm

Member
Hey, thank you all for the great responses, lots of very helpful info here. So, basically, Cal+Mag will be a good idea(i'm not sure if thats with hard water or not??, higher cal/mag content already) and make sure PH is correct for coco and all is golden.

thanks again guys.


I'm using coco-perlite-castings (50-30-20) with a couple different types of guano and some kelp meal. I don't do any EC, ppm, or pH metering. Works for me.

this is helpful, i'll still prolly PH the water for the organic runs, but nice to know its not entirely needed.
 

Sam87

Member
Hey got some questions for you. Are you using RO or tap water on that? And what brand of coco are you using?
Hey man, I've been running municiple water at ~200 ppm for them. I think I'm going to be switching to half and half R/O here soon though, just as soon as I can put in a R/O tank. Plant health and vigour are great, but I can still see a touch of weirdness with how the alkalinity makes my PH drift.

I'm actually running a number of different brands right now, but the most success I've been having has actually come from the Sunleaves compressed bricks. They need to be flushed and expanded with Cal-Mag, but once you get them right, they have a nice texture, and the price is very right. Good results with Canna out of the bag too, but I can't justify the cost jump, as the plants don't care.
 

Wav3F0rm

Member
Hey man, I've been running municiple water at ~200 ppm for them. I think I'm going to be switching to half and half R/O here soon though, just as soon as I can put in a R/O tank. Plant health and vigour are great, but I can still see a touch of weirdness with how the alkalinity makes my PH drift.

what are you using to PH your water? the tap water here has some crazy buffering capacity also.
 

Sam87

Member
GH down, and a very small application of Fruit Fresh (ascorbic and citric acid). The Ascorbic acid drops PH down a few points, and eliminates the pesky chloramine. From there, I make the big adjustments with phosphoric acid.

This is tap water starting at 8.5 and 200ppm. Found out the hard way that every time it rains, ppm jumps to 500+, and kills plants dead, hahaha. So regardless, sometimes I get forced into buying water.
 

Justin_Credible

Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary....
Veteran
title pretty much explains everything. If not using coco specific nutes, i know it releases potassium and with holds calcium, is there a way around this? thanks.

Alternatively, anyone just not worrying about it and using whatever without problems?

I used B-Cuzz A&B hydro with 90/10 coco perlite mix...no issues at all.
Altho cal/mag was my friend when i was using it. Don't need cal/mag or perlite any longer now that am running specific coco nutes.
:tiphat:
 
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NachoConQueso

Hey man, I've been running municiple water at ~200 ppm for them. I think I'm going to be switching to half and half R/O here soon though, just as soon as I can put in a R/O tank. Plant health and vigour are great, but I can still see a touch of weirdness with how the alkalinity makes my PH drift.

I'm actually running a number of different brands right now, but the most success I've been having has actually come from the Sunleaves compressed bricks. They need to be flushed and expanded with Cal-Mag, but once you get them right, they have a nice texture, and the price is very right. Good results with Canna out of the bag too, but I can't justify the cost jump, as the plants don't care.


Did you find that the Cal-Mag was absolutely necessary with Dyna-Gro and tap water? I'm trying to avoid it if I can, but I might need just a hair of it. What I'm thinking is getting cal through tap the whole cycle then getting mag from tap in early stages and when it requires more in later stages using Dyna's PK booster which has another little mag kick for flowers.
 

hazeified

Member
Have used Gen Hydro micro and bloom, canna mono cal+mag alternating , pot silicate, h2o2, bcuzz root and bloom stim, 1.6-2.0 ec, 5.8ph seems to work for me:joint:H


Tapwater has been crap recently[uk], could be salt runoff from roads, or possibly chlorites, nearly lost a crop recently in dwc, transplant into coco and rhizotonic saved the day.
 

Sam87

Member
Did you find that the Cal-Mag was absolutely necessary with Dyna-Gro and tap water? I'm trying to avoid it if I can, but I might need just a hair of it. What I'm thinking is getting cal through tap the whole cycle then getting mag from tap in early stages and when it requires more in later stages using Dyna's PK booster which has another little mag kick for flowers.
You'll probably be all right, depending on your genetics. My girls haven't been asking for it much, but I have one strain that likes 5ml/g extra weeks 3-6. If you're running some hogs, then they'll be asking for it. It's also useful to have if you're in expanded blocks, seems to get everything ready much faster.

All in all, very impressed with the D-G line. It's a really nice, cheap, no bullshit, and easy system to run. They don't hide anything either, very upfront and professional.
 

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