Anyone growin auto duck? How many gens to stable the duck foot?

[grod31]

I bought a few beans. Unfortunately they only sell feminized.

I will have to cross breed* to keep the duck genetics. (50% duck?)
I will have to then grow out at least 50 to find a male and a female both holding the duck genes. And the "medium" size genes i'm looking for.
At that point it wont be stable but it should result in a good ratio( of duck foots (50% duck or more?) in the size rage i want.

The genes I have to cross breed* with the auto duck has many phenos.

The seed stock is from a 5 foot mother and a 5 inch father.
((Super cali haze X Himalayan blue diesel )X (Super cali haze X blue Himalayan diesel))

anyone else out there growing autoducks or pollen chucking to keep the genes?

 

[djonkoman]

haven't grown the autoduck(but I do have my own autoduck cross in the pipelines, just need to verify it's actually autoflowering, and then it still needs a load of selection and stabilisation), but I have been crossing with the webbed leaf trait.

webbed leaf is very easy ti breed with since it's just a single gene recessive. i.e. no duck in f1, 25% f2, stabilised at f3. tricky part is indeed having enough plants to find both a male and female with webbed leaf in that f2, but you could also just self a female, than you just need to find one.

another advantage is the duck leaf shows very early. at the 3rd set of leaves you will be able to select them with near 100% certaintity(I've had a few very rare exceptions where they developed webbed leaf at first, but still reverted to normal leaves around node 4-5), so it's easier growing more plants to have a higher chance of finding both a male and female, since you can kill anything that's not webbed already at an early stage.

 

[grod31]

Hey mate, thanks for the reply. I haven't grown in 5 years so i am keeping my fingers crossed that my breeding stock is still viable. I did have some webbed plants i got from " otto flour " a few years ago and i remember the webbing showing up on even the first set of true leaves.

 

[f-e]

As djonkoman says, self it. An sts mix is easy enough. You would only get female beans, but even a plant that only yielded half ounce, will give you about 100 of them.

Perhaps female seeds are the only option, as it's a freak mutation that refuses to be of any use a generation on. So all the beans are bought about this way.

 

[djonkoman]

Hey mate, thanks for the reply. I haven't grown in 5 years so i am keeping my fingers crossed that my breeding stock is still viable. I did have some webbed plants i got from " otto flour " a few years ago and i remember the webbing showing up on even the first set of true leaves.

it does apply to the first set of leaves, but any normal leaved plant will also not have fingers on the first leaf. 2nd set of leaves some normal-leaved will already seperate into fingers, but ime that's rare, most normal-leaved plants won't seperate into fingers till the 3rd node.

but if the 3rd set of leaves is only just appearing you can already see wether they're sperate fingers or not using a loupe. so you don't need to wait for the 3rd set to fully grow out.

 

[grod31]

I found some male auto flowering ducksfoot pollen so i will skip this round of self pollination but i would be interested in using it on some of the offspring.

anyone think these ebay kits are worth 30$
or should i buy everything separate and make my own?