Anyone Ever do a REAL GUERRILLA GROW?

[BasementGrower]

anyone really ever do a grrow that u use the native soill just add some lime .. some perlite and a little soil from a bag and thats all??

found a place thats to difficult to bring in more then a backpack at a time. so im thinking ill just use lime .. perlite with a little nutes in it.. and add promix proly 1 gallon per hole..

do u think we can pull off a decent harvest using this method.. or should i just put them in 5 gallon buckets.. and use a rope as a wick?
its just a ton more work .. meaning less to go out..

i have about 99 clones ready to go out. just i dont want to have 10 footers.. security would be risky.. so if i can keep smaller holes for smaller plants.. they will get great sunlight. so

just want to see if anyone here has had any success with native soil?

post ur pics of plants grown in soil that wasnt all dragged in and paid for.? its more of an issue of getting the soil out there then it is money. plus we are trying about 20 spots. so its a test year on spots.. see how many spots are good for the following years ..

 

[dickcorn]

The dirt around here is pretty good, I've had good results using just a bit of 10-10-10 and water crystals. We don't water if we can help it. Maybe just a couple gallons over summer with light nutes. Some have gotten quite big. I stopped using lime because it isn't needed unless your ph is pretty low. I gave up on organics cause large amounts of animals in my area have killed hundreds of my plants first couple years.

 

[Waldgärtner]

These three (all three KC36 by KC Brains) were grown in native soil. The soil has a pretty high pH, so I didn't add lime.

I only added a little bit of Seramis (water retaining clay granulate) and fertilized them with tomato fertilizer. I watered them about 3 times during the season.

Yield was about 25g per plant. Not great, but enough for me.

 

[hamstring]

dude every year.

As always it depends on your native environment.

All I add is some time release ferts. I have used native soil for over 20 years with little to no amendments. I grow plants that yield 1/4-3/4 a lb with 4-5 visits per season. It all depends on the native soil. I grow in lowlands and the soil is black, black gold.

I haven't watered the last 3 years and before that it was only a medium for the ferts(water-soluble ) i have since went to time release.

Hope you give it a try I think you will be surprised with the results. Plants dont need as much care as humans make out. Its the humans that need all the extra plot visits not the plants.

 

[DevilWeedSeeds]

I love doing them! Lots of work but worth every step and every load back. Looking forward to another awesome year!

 

[buddymate]

I never carry soil in mate,and yeah its a REAL gorilla grow

 

[chefboy6969]

no offense but a "REAL gorilla grow...in my books...is what the B.C boys do...and the the Quebecors, and the Cali boys...

You clear cut some forest in the deep woods...WHERE NO ONE GOES..not even helicopters

Take down 30-40 Red woods or huge Pines...and you amend the soil with all the goodness you can...and you camp for 4 months..in the woods...taking care of your crop..YOU LIVE THERE..EAT THERE..SHIT THERE...and in 4 months you come out of the woods..with approx $100,000

Thats gorilla growing..real gorilla growing

peace
Chefboy

 

[BasementGrower]

ya i just dont have enough spots .. i have 2-4 good spots were ill be actually mixing in promix and amending.. but.. id like to see how others spots perform. if they have people .? alot of other things how the native soil performs.. its basicly the test all in 1 year type of deal. so wen the next years come i know exactly how im going to do this. im just more into indoors so i dont need to be visiting my site every hour making sure its still there you know,, like i said.. its my first outdoor crop in this neck of the woods. honestly it was easy in maine........ almost impossible in NY ,, and now ive run into a few that say theres good bud to be grown but u need to start alot and do work if u want it to work . ive heard a few people say just bring lime and perlite with u .. and a bag like 30 gallons promix.. do a 1 gallon of promix. handlefull of lime.. a 5 gallon size hole mix with native.. and go.. hearin people hit 1/4 to 1 lb a plant depending on strain.. sun .. water.. and how the soil is. so.. im not a greedy person. i just want enough to smoke.. and enough to supply the few people who actually use this as a medcine..

 

[Endur]

Here is my thread from 2011

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=216711

Peace
Endur

 

[TOM BOMBADIL]

I would think the term gorilla grow, like gorilla warfare to mean very mobile and elusive hard to pin down easily blending into the environment. Or perhaps like a group of great apes, always on the move visiting their favorite spots eating the available food then returning some weeks later. Just my two cents. Most of the bag soil you buy is peat moss based dug up from a swampy or lowland area so why carry in what is already their. Do the gorilla soldiers of a combat zone leave a heavy trail for the enemies to follow to their locations? I just looked up gorilla-is an ape, and guerrilla warfare-fighting or harassment by small groups acting independently. personaly if it was my ass on the line out their I would opt for a gorilla grow, not a guerrilla grow. stay wild and free!

 

[Buddah Watcha]

Hey BasementGrower,

I'm sure our locations are pretty close by... This year we did a few spots where we hauled lots of dirt, but we also did a few spots where all we took was some compost and perlite and mixed with local soil... some of the holes I didn't even have lime or anything, so didn't even mix that in, we'll see how things perform... Threw maybe 1-2 gallons of compost with 1-2 gallons of perlite in a 2x2x2 hole and mixed all together, handful of nutes and azomite and mixed it well, mycos and transplant clone!

Last week we did a big hole with lots of moss that was on downed trees roots and top soil humus and mixed perlite and compost, lime and nutes and put 2 clones in, this week I cheked them and they looked happy and had grew an inch or so! This year will be lots of experiments going on and it will be a good learning experience!

Last year we did around 5-10 gallon holes mixed 50-50 with native soil, pretty clayey soil for the most part, the top layer had some decomposed humus and moss... mixed that with lime and gypsum and we had decent results, most plants ended around 4ft and yielded between 2-4zips... I'm sure it would also work with smaller holes, probably just smaller yields... but since ur trying to stay under the radar that might work.

I'm actually planning on doing similar in a few weeks, sprout some more seeds for a 2nd run and do 1gal local soil holes and see how that goes...

Let us know what you decide and how things go!

Best vibes bro!

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

anyone really ever do a grrow that u use the native soill just add some lime .. some perlite and a little soil from a bag and thats all??

found a place thats to difficult to bring in more then a backpack at a time. so im thinking ill just use lime .. perlite with a little nutes in it.. and add promix proly 1 gallon per hole..

do u think we can pull off a decent harvest using this method.. or should i just put them in 5 gallon buckets.. and use a rope as a wick?
its just a ton more work .. meaning less to go out..

i have about 99 clones ready to go out. just i dont want to have 10 footers.. security would be risky.. so if i can keep smaller holes for smaller plants.. they will get great sunlight. so

just want to see if anyone here has had any success with native soil?

post ur pics of plants grown in soil that wasnt all dragged in and paid for.? its more of an issue of getting the soil out there then it is money. plus we are trying about 20 spots. so its a test year on spots.. see how many spots are good for the following years ..

I dig a 1'widex2'deep hole and let nature do the rest. I've done this every year with great results. I put some advanced nutrient granules on the bottom of the hole. Check out my old galley. Outdoors pics start at 35.

 

[LazLo]

I grow in a mixed hardwood forest of thousands of acres. No need to cut down trees. There are pockets for anywhere from 5 to 50 plants. Have used one 12' X 12' spot for 5 years. During that time, I've added Black Magic pottng soil (contains pearlite but no nutes), gypsum and a tablespoon of agricultural lime to each hole each year. The native soil is clay less than a foot down.

I've had 7 footers and 3 footers using this site. All dependent on the strain. I no longer tote water. I spread dry chemical fertz 6" from stem a day or 2 before a rain. A mix of Miracle Grow, urea and some potent nitrogen pellets from a Potash Corp chemist. Blended for each stage of growth.

I dig the holes 1' wide and 18" deep. The top 1' is black gold now and the roots spread out of the holes sideways. The roots I put out each fall are the size of soccer balls. Shake off the dirt back into the hole.

For protection from the critters, I use deer netting to surround my plot. Last year a rabbit got in and dug up my entire crop! This year each seedling will have a deer netting covered wire cage to keep them even safer.

 

[idiit]

i've been doing od gorilla grows for 20+ years. soil amendments did not help me in areas of shit soil. i now totally replace the shit soil.

some areas have great native soil and i need very little supplements to get very good results. the lushness and type of indigenous vegetation indicate which soil is which.

this only means that i've not learned how to properly amend soil imo. i've tried lime, humus, volcanic rock dust, etc.. it kind of popped my "organic farmer bubble". .

this doesn't mean others can't achieve what i couldn't. i am focused on the results and the "replacement method" for shit soil works. a lot of the failure could be due to the logistics of getting amendments into an area i'm not even supposed to be in the first place. outdoors you get one shot each year at getting the soil right. it's one year 'till you get another shot. i chose replacement method for shit soil and it works.

 

[moondawg]

Hey BG

hamstring was right, depends on enviroment and i would add that it depends on the strain. Cannabis needs 1" of rain per week to have optimum growth. Once averaged rainfall falls below 1/2" plants will suffer and growth will slow dramatically. If average rainfall drops to 1/4" per week, the plants will wilt and many varieties will perish.

Buckets would create a real problem. Soil temps in a bucket mimic air temps and if july brings 95, your buckets have to be watered heavily every single day. The rules above apply to inground growing in soil with at least a 40% clay content which is the proper amount for high quality soil along with water crystals and sub surface watering.

My native soil is of a nature that i can dig a hole, plant a plant and it will reach 8' without fertilizer or any soil additives or attention from me. Water is a differnt story. August and Sept are dry and its fact that big buds require big water.

Pure kush is drought proof and while it may not grow much, kush plants will rarely die due to a lack of water. The kush mountains they originate from are dry and arid. They seldom reach 4' andy yield 3 ozs but they are tough.

Morrocan is another desert dweller. Rain is non existent from july to october in the norther sahara where the finest morrocan hash grows and again, its hard to kill a full blooded morrocon. Several companaies sell landrace morrocan.

The Kush hybrids, OG,(thai and paki), lemon kush and others rarely contain the drought resistance that the mostly or pure kush.

My 2cents.. Good luck Basement grower.
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[Ajunta Pall]

BG, here are some tips for you to try, look for a spot with bushes or plants with deep roots, this usually indicates a good growing spot. Dig about 18-24" down and make sure that the soil is of good consistency and moist. Grow your plants 16-18", let em get leggy if you want, then bury the root ball and the first 12" in the ground. The stem will sprout roots, giving your plants a lower profile to start and a deep root system which could make a difference if you carry water or not.

As for your bag, all you really need are water crystals, time released ferts, and some brown packing paper. When dig your holes leave the bottom concave, and line it with the packing paper, this will keep the bottom of your hole moist. Mix in the the ferts and crystals and plant your clones. Last and very importantly, use whatever you can from your surroundings to mulch your hole.

 

[Henrik]

Here is some of my ggrowing, here I dont even transplant plants and thats gg style! https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=236382

Here I use lime, chickenfertz, blood and bone meal. I have good result just using chickenfertz too. This year I also have sow seeds with out cultivating the soil and fertilizing, just making a hole for seed. I lookforward to the result, going to check the seedlings in a couple of weeks.
I have only once brought soil and peat in to the plots, no more of that stuff here if i dont go backyard growing in some years.....