MrStonerMan
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Anybody used the Adjust-A-Wing? If so how did you guys like it? Did you notice any increase in yield over your previous reflector?
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Anybody used the Adjust-A-Wing?
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yessir, I have a few they are damn nice if you can afford the heat. no matter how good a job they do of moving the heat off the bulb they still add the heat the the tent/room just like any other open/non-air-cooled fixture
THIS IS IMPORTANT > don't be too high when assembling it, you can bend the wings the wrong way and warp the hell out of them real fast. pay attention to the instructions for reals.
THIS IS IMPORTANT > don't be too high when assembling it, you can bend the wings the wrong way and warp the hell out of them real fast. pay attention to the instructions for reals.
stillsmokin843
Member
as already mentioned they work well if you can handle the heat instead of air cooled
MrStonerMan
Member
Hi i used adjusta wing and its true they cover way bigger area and with the super spreader you can get plants real close to the lite.. Cool shade would still be using, but i switched to vert.
Thanks for the replies guys! My grow space is currently 2ft by 2ft so that reflector would be perfect for it. I am concerned about the extra heat build up though. I have an open air reflector in there right now but it is much smaller and allows more air to pass through the edges to the top. I am also considering this reflector http://htgsupply.com/Product-QuadRay-Reflector.asp. What do you guys think about it? I emailed them to ask if it was open in the top which will allow me to vent air very easily
MrStonerMan
Member
Forgot to mention I was aiming for the most even light dispersal.. Open air preferably
stillsmokin843
Member
id stick with the adjust a wing but have never tried the other hood you posted. we were referring to heat of an open un air cooled bulb verses the air cooled hood
SunSoaker
SunSoaker
Sorry,
I overlooked the fact you don't have space for my recommended reflector.
My fault for not reading your comment.
Ojo
SunSoaker
Sorry,
I overlooked the fact you don't have space for my recommended reflector.
My fault for not reading your comment.
Ojo
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bho_expertz
Member
I have the AAW avenger model. Without AC and without heat spreader i can have my plants 1 foot away from bulb. I have a 600hps and a 4x4 space.
Flying High
Member
My Adjust-a-Wing-medium, with Super Spreader is the only reflector I have been able to achieve a 4'x4' footprint from one 600w bulb; the bulb being less than 18" from canopy,(ran mine at 12" above tops) with no evidence of light bleaching!!!
What I am trying to say is the plants around the perimeter had larger, more dense buds than the plants directly under the bulb!!! Six crops, happened all six times, thru three different rooms...
More than 12 crops since switching to 6"air-cooled hoods like the SuperSun2's @ 3x600w per 4x8 tray, and I still can't equal what I was getting from that old 4x4 tray and 600w Adjust-a-Wing. The size of buds on perimeter plants has been unacceptable since switching to air-cooled reflectors. Although, to be honest about my results, the "OG's" are still producing unusually dense buds with less intense lighting than any other strains I have ran...
I plan on switching back to using 2x Adjust-aWing mediums w/600's on a mover over each tray as soon as I get my A/C installed; possibly sooner.
Although, to be honest about my results, the "OG's" are still producing unusually dense buds with less intense lighting than any other strains I have ever ran...
I have regretted every crop since switching to the air-cooled reflectors; always thinking about how green the grass used to be.
Now, I need to have my canopy 24"+ below the glass with 600w bulbs, any closer and I see light bleaching on my OG's... Go Figure??? Seems like a lot of wasted light in the two feet between glass and buds; especially with 600's. In my opinion, at 24" above canopy, 1000w bulbs would be the only reasonable solution to maximize my situation.
Now for my contradiction:
The XXL air-cooled hoods look like a comparable product w/air-cooling(6-8"); but I have not heard great things regarding 600w bulbs in these large air-cooled hoods. no personal experience. There is also the Sun Systems BlockBuster reflector advertising a 4'x4' footprint, but I'm not sure if that is with 600w or 1000w bulbs, or how high the reflector must be to achieve the 4x4 footprint?
To conclude: If I was using 1000w bulbs and grew larger plants, I would be tempted by these newer 50lbs+ air-cooled XXL monster hoods which look similar to the AdjustAWing, but sealed/cooled... For crops less than 24" tall and within the 4'wide footprint, I wouldn't consider anything other than an Adjust-A-Wing w/spreader and 600w bulb; especially running a sealed system which requires a/c anyways...
just my 2cents
What I am trying to say is the plants around the perimeter had larger, more dense buds than the plants directly under the bulb!!! Six crops, happened all six times, thru three different rooms...
More than 12 crops since switching to 6"air-cooled hoods like the SuperSun2's @ 3x600w per 4x8 tray, and I still can't equal what I was getting from that old 4x4 tray and 600w Adjust-a-Wing. The size of buds on perimeter plants has been unacceptable since switching to air-cooled reflectors. Although, to be honest about my results, the "OG's" are still producing unusually dense buds with less intense lighting than any other strains I have ran...
I plan on switching back to using 2x Adjust-aWing mediums w/600's on a mover over each tray as soon as I get my A/C installed; possibly sooner.
Although, to be honest about my results, the "OG's" are still producing unusually dense buds with less intense lighting than any other strains I have ever ran...
I have regretted every crop since switching to the air-cooled reflectors; always thinking about how green the grass used to be.
Now, I need to have my canopy 24"+ below the glass with 600w bulbs, any closer and I see light bleaching on my OG's... Go Figure??? Seems like a lot of wasted light in the two feet between glass and buds; especially with 600's. In my opinion, at 24" above canopy, 1000w bulbs would be the only reasonable solution to maximize my situation. Now for my contradiction:
The XXL air-cooled hoods look like a comparable product w/air-cooling(6-8"); but I have not heard great things regarding 600w bulbs in these large air-cooled hoods. no personal experience. There is also the Sun Systems BlockBuster reflector advertising a 4'x4' footprint, but I'm not sure if that is with 600w or 1000w bulbs, or how high the reflector must be to achieve the 4x4 footprint?
To conclude: If I was using 1000w bulbs and grew larger plants, I would be tempted by these newer 50lbs+ air-cooled XXL monster hoods which look similar to the AdjustAWing, but sealed/cooled... For crops less than 24" tall and within the 4'wide footprint, I wouldn't consider anything other than an Adjust-A-Wing w/spreader and 600w bulb; especially running a sealed system which requires a/c anyways...
just my 2cents
Flying High
Member
Forgot your space is only 2'x2'... In this case, i think an air-cooled hood would be perfect; most likely required without A/C...
An Adjust-a-Wing medium would have to be pulled into the tight setting, reducing the 4x4 footprint I was writing about in the previous post; kind of making the benefits less valuable to your situation; especially given the heat from a 600w bulb. Maybe a 400w bulb?
An Adjust-a-Wing medium would have to be pulled into the tight setting, reducing the 4x4 footprint I was writing about in the previous post; kind of making the benefits less valuable to your situation; especially given the heat from a 600w bulb. Maybe a 400w bulb?
T
TREE KING
My Adjust-a-Wing-medium, with Super Spreader is the only reflector I have been able to achieve a 4'x4' footprint from one 600w bulb; the bulb being less than 18" from canopy,(ran mine at 12" above tops) with no evidence of light bleaching!!!
What I am trying to say is the plants around the perimeter had larger, more dense buds than the plants directly under the bulb!!! Six crops, happened all six times, thru three different rooms...
More than 12 crops since switching to 6"air-cooled hoods like the SuperSun2's @ 3x600w per 4x8 tray, and I still can't equal what I was getting from that old 4x4 tray and 600w Adjust-a-Wing. The size of buds on perimeter plants has been unacceptable since switching to air-cooled reflectors. Although, to be honest about my results, the "OG's" are still producing unusually dense buds with less intense lighting than any other strains I have ran...
I plan on switching back to using 2x Adjust-aWing mediums w/600's on a mover over each tray as soon as I get my A/C installed; possibly sooner.
Although, to be honest about my results, the "OG's" are still producing unusually dense buds with less intense lighting than any other strains I have ever ran...
I have regretted every crop since switching to the air-cooled reflectors; always thinking about how green the grass used to be.
Now for my contradiction:
The XXL air-cooled hoods look like a comparable product w/air-cooling(6-8"); but I have not heard great things regarding 600w bulbs in these large air-cooled hoods. no personal experience. There is also the Sun Systems BlockBuster reflector advertising a 4'x4' footprint, but I'm not sure if that is with 600w or 1000w bulbs, or how high the reflector must be to achieve the 4x4 footprint?
To conclude: If I was using 1000w bulbs and grew larger plants, I would be tempted by these newer 50lbs+ air-cooled XXL monster hoods which look similar to the AdjustAWing, but sealed/cooled... For crops less than 24" tall and within the 4'wide footprint, I wouldn't consider anything other than an Adjust-A-Wing w/spreader and 600w bulb; especially running a sealed system which requires a/c anyways...
just my 2cents
so flying high you've never tested out a supersoaker like OjoRojo420 mentioned? the one thing i always think of when looking at the adjust a wing is that theres no side walls on it to keep the light from escaping. it seems like this is the reason you can keep them so close to the plants, because light and heat are escaping through the side. i could be wrong but how could the aaw be better than the supersoaker when theres no room for light to escape with the supersoaker?
Flying High
Member
Spot On TREE KING!!! I have not tried the SuperSoaker, or ever heard of it before this, although the Lumenarc reflectors look similar, with claims of 4x4 footprint @ 600watts; for me they sit higher than I believe a 600w is effective...
I used to think the two sides without reflector on the AaW were wasting a lot of light. After more observation, it appears the side opposite bulb works in a way like a vertical garden when the reflector is wide open and 12" above the canopy; leaving the perimeter bud sites less than 18" from bare bulb with no restriction. My 4x4 table used to resemble a stadium with the perimeter plants just slightly taller than the center. In this configuration, it appears the perimeter may get slightly less light initially, inducing mild stretching over center plants; then being anywhere from 2-6" taller than center, the side buds get blasted with bare-bulb style light directly from the top(now side) of the bulb on top of any reflected light from super spreader or reflector.
As for behind the light socket, I think your assertion of wasted light may be most valid there. Although the socket is adjustable in bulb height and placement, I think it is the built in angle between reflector and bulb providing even light distribution behind the bulb/socket. The perimeter buds behind reflector were as dense as any other perimeter consistently from crop to crop.
So I agree with the wasted light... All said and done it boils down to results. In my experience a 600w bulb can not compete with a 1000w unless the 600w can get close to 12" above the canopy and cover a 4'x4' area. If your 600 can only light a 3'x3' canopy versus a 1000w over 5'x5' or even 4'x4' canopy, I can't imagine a situation where the 600w could outproduce the 1000w...Unless, like MrStonerMan, you are lighting a fixed area under 3'x3', then a 1000w would just be a toaster
MrStonerMan
Member
I was thinking the same thing! But I remember a thread I saw on the forums (Maybe Here?) about the end of the bulb not having much lumens coming out of it. This makes me thing that the two ends are not necessary. Maybe somebody with more lighting experience can clarify better?
Spot On TREE KING!!! I have not tried the SuperSoaker, or ever heard of it before this, although the Lumenarc reflectors look similar, with claims of 4x4 footprint @ 600watts; for me they sit higher than I believe a 600w is effective...
I used to think the two sides without reflector on the AaW were wasting a lot of light. After more observation, it appears the side opposite bulb works in a way like a vertical garden when the reflector is wide open and 12" above the canopy; leaving the perimeter bud sites less than 18" from bare bulb with no restriction. My 4x4 table used to resemble a stadium with the perimeter plants just slightly taller than the center. In this configuration, it appears the perimeter may get slightly less light initially, inducing mild stretching over center plants; then being anywhere from 2-6" taller than center, the side buds get blasted with bare-bulb style light directly from the top(now side) of the bulb on top of any reflected light from super spreader or reflector.
As for behind the light socket, I think your assertion of wasted light may be most valid there. Although the socket is adjustable in bulb height and placement, I think it is the built in angle between reflector and bulb providing even light distribution behind the bulb/socket. The perimeter buds behind reflector were as dense as any other perimeter consistently from crop to crop.
So I agree with the wasted light... All said and done it boils down to results. In my experience a 600w bulb can not compete with a 1000w unless the 600w can get close to 12" above the canopy and cover a 4'x4' area. If your 600 can only light a 3'x3' canopy versus a 1000w over 5'x5' or even 4'x4' canopy, I can't imagine a situation where the 600w could outproduce the 1000w...Unless, like MrStonerMan, you are lighting a fixed area under 3'x3', then a 1000w would just be a toaster
My Adjust-a-Wing-medium, with Super Spreader is the only reflector I have been able to achieve a 4'x4' footprint from one 600w bulb; the bulb being less than 18" from canopy,(ran mine at 12" above tops) with no evidence of light bleaching!!!
What I am trying to say is the plants around the perimeter had larger, more dense buds than the plants directly under the bulb!!! Six crops, happened all six times, thru three different rooms...
More than 12 crops since switching to 6"air-cooled hoods like the SuperSun2's @ 3x600w per 4x8 tray, and I still can't equal what I was getting from that old 4x4 tray and 600w Adjust-a-Wing. The size of buds on perimeter plants has been unacceptable since switching to air-cooled reflectors. Although, to be honest about my results, the "OG's" are still producing unusually dense buds with less intense lighting than any other strains I have ran...
I plan on switching back to using 2x Adjust-aWing mediums w/600's on a mover over each tray as soon as I get my A/C installed; possibly sooner.
Although, to be honest about my results, the "OG's" are still producing unusually dense buds with less intense lighting than any other strains I have ever ran...
I have regretted every crop since switching to the air-cooled reflectors; always thinking about how green the grass used to be.
Now for my contradiction:
The XXL air-cooled hoods look like a comparable product w/air-cooling(6-8"); but I have not heard great things regarding 600w bulbs in these large air-cooled hoods. no personal experience. There is also the Sun Systems BlockBuster reflector advertising a 4'x4' footprint, but I'm not sure if that is with 600w or 1000w bulbs, or how high the reflector must be to achieve the 4x4 footprint?
To conclude: If I was using 1000w bulbs and grew larger plants, I would be tempted by these newer 50lbs+ air-cooled XXL monster hoods which look similar to the AdjustAWing, but sealed/cooled... For crops less than 24" tall and within the 4'wide footprint, I wouldn't consider anything other than an Adjust-A-Wing w/spreader and 600w bulb; especially running a sealed system which requires a/c anyways...
just my 2cents
My only concern is that if I buy the Adjust-a-wing it will be too perfect of a fit.. Meaning it will leave no gaps around the edges of the reflector for air to travel upward.. The other reflector I posted might work for my room better because I can easily modify the very tip of the top to be open and allow air to travel right through the hood.. Making it in a sense an air cooled reflector. I think if I buy the adjust a wing I might have to modify it a small bit in order for it to function well with my room. Do you guys think it's even worth getting the adjust-a-wing for my grow space? Forgot to mention I was gonna use a 250HPS which is not even listed for use with the Adjust-a-wing. I'm thinking maybe because it won't be efficient with that reflector. I'm stoned lol
For a 2 x 2 I would get a Super Sun 2 (for that space you might need vented reflector) add a Sylvania Grolux 600W HPS and call the day.
But maybe a 400W would be better; 2 x 2 is too small for a 600W and you could get some light bleaching.
Ojo
But maybe a 400W would be better; 2 x 2 is too small for a 600W and you could get some light bleaching.
Ojo
MrStonerMan
Member
Only thing about increasing the wattage is increasing the distance from bulb to plant. I have roughly 3 1/2 feet of head room after I subtract the reflector and pot depth.. Depending on which reflector I use. But I checked out the Super Sun 2 and it exceeds my space by 2 inches. I'm growing in a cab not a tent. I will try to get some pictures up in a bit.
Excellent Idea! I'm playing with the idea of which wattage to switch to after the 250.. I don't know if I should go straight to 1000 or get a 600. Biggest space I think I can fit in my spare room right now is probably like 4X6ft.. I have about 9ft of headroom from floor to roof but I would like to keep the light contained inside a cab or tent. I think the 1000 would be the best bet though as long as I can afford the bigger fan for the expanded space and wattage
gregor_mendel
Active member
http://www.adjustawings.com/downloads/ajw_layout_tips_1.pdf
Scroll down to the bottom left. They have small adjustawings for 150W-250W
That would be perfect answer for a 2x2 space max light coverage and low heat with a 250 watt and a small adjusta wing.I covered a 4x 5 space with the medium, wings wide open and a 600 watt ..
