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ANYBODY EVER TRY SPICE GOLD LEGAL HIGH?

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Truthman

I was on everybodydoesit.com and people in the forums are saying this is almost as potent if not more potent than good herb and wonderful when mixed with herb.

I read the ingredients and Siberian Motherwort seems like it's the ingredient that is giving the cannabis like high.

Someone on erowid said they had a nursery send him some medically grown and it was way better than what the legal highs were offering when they put it into their mix.

This might be a real alternative to cannabis and it's legal.

Here's th eerowid review on Leonurus sibiricus(Siberian Motherwort):

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=39370

I work within the Mining Sector in Outback Australia and we are subject to rigorous (planned and random) drug testing. Therefore we had very clean systems when we trialed this modified Marahuanilla and we were extremely pleased with the results.

Having been an experienced smoker of hydro cannabis prior to the introduction of drug testing at my job, I am always looking at alternatives. Some of my friends had ordered Marahuanilla before and we were always disappointed and in most cases we were only slightly affected. In my opinion, the usual stuff you buy can (at best) be likened to smoking low-grade cannabis leaf. The content was usually flower heads and leaf material.

I contacted a Nursery in another state that specializes in supplying plant products to the Medical Industry. After much correspondence and cajoling, they agreed to grow Leonurus Sibiricus and harvest it for me. Yes, I had to pay them to research the subject. :( After nearly eight months of receiving their crop reports, I was advised they were satisfied with the final product they had developed. We then received approx 16 ounces of nothing but Marahuanilla flower heads. It was labeled “Research Material Only”. The flower heads were very soft (even the usual prickles were soft) and there was a slight but pleasant aroma. It was also far paler than any other Marahuanilla we had seen. Almost uniformly pale yellow. We smoked a cone each through a chilled water vessel. The effects were immediate: a sedative/euphoric feeling which lasted about an hour. Music was brighter and everyone agreed they felt more sociable. Also some slight attacks of the giggles but no paranoia or munchies. The smoke is smooth and palatable but nothing like the taste associated with quality hydro cannabis. When smoking 4~6 cones in succession, there is a loss of fine motor skills and a strong lethargy.
I don’t recommend driving after a heavy session of this product.

Now that the Nursery has sorted out the growing process, they are selling the product to me for $4 per 16 grams. A very good return, considering the initial investment. I can’t endorse the Marahuanilla that is normally available via the Internet or through Head Shops. It may be useful for extending the supply of one's favourite smoking herbs but that’s about it. But this particular product is a very good and potent alternative to cannabis. I recommend spending some time researching Nurseries that service the Medical Industry. In our case the gamble, money and long wait have reaped great dividends.
 
i searched wiki and found this ...interesting.never tried legal herbs though..im gonna see if there are any herbal smoke shops around here.and give it a try.i have to do more research on it first though..its interesting how wiki describes it.

"Leonurus sibiricus
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Leonurus

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Plantae

Division: Magnoliophyta

Class: Magnoliopsida

Order: Lamiales

Family: Lamiaceae

Genus: Leonurus

Species: Leonurus sibiricus


Leonurus sibiricus (Honeyweed or Siberian motherwort), also Mini Marijuana. It originated from Mexico, and slowly crept its way up to the Americas. The plant can reach heights up to 5 feet, and has Oak Tree like leaves. It is seen grown from July to September.


[edit] Cultivation
This plant has a history to be used by Indian Tribes for its Euphoric and Sedative properties. It is also being researched as a New aged pain killer.


[edit] Recreational use
The plants buds and sometimes leaves are used to smoke to achieve a mild-intense high somewhat similar to Marijuana. Although the plant does not contain THC, it contains a similar alkaloid.
 
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Guest

If this plant contains alkaloids similar to THC it may be worthy of more research, I wonder if seeds are available?
 

b8man

Well-known member
Veteran
This is very interesting information for me - thanks Truthman - i'll seek it out.


B8
 
G

Guest

The last "legal" advertized substance I tried scared me so fuckin bad I about lost it totally,and I smoked a lot of phencyclidine back in the day lol..When are they gonna make that salvia crap illegal?I don't trust anyone anymore when it comes to what I smoke,that stuff severely freaked me out and it's hard to freak out an old hippie.I'm sure this other stuff isn't nearly as unpleasant though,only one way to find out.
 

PhenoMenal

Hairdresser
Veteran
what are your reasons for wanting to make salvia illegal? just because it makes you hallucinate etc? so does too much alcohol. I know what youre saying tho - it is pretty whacky stuff, very potent too, and maybe it should be illegal, but i dont think either of us are in a very good position to say one way or the other as we havent studied it!
 

NserUame

Member
I really don't see why salvia should be illegal...it's a stupid drug in my opinion, but a good 2 minutes after ripping it (only did it twice) I had such a hard time trying to stand up I don't think I could get into any real mischief...unless I fell onto a carelessly discarded sword or something...

Anyways, I'm wondering how similar of an alkaloid is it? Like someone mentioned it's worthy of checking out, but I think I'll stay away from it until I read some solid reports. I'm not too big on smoking random plants.
 

Lemon

Member
A member of the Leonorus genus, eh? Is it related to Leonurus Leonotis, and Leonurus Nepetefolia (Wild dagga). That was all the rage a year ago in "legal alternatives". People swore it has psychoactive properties. I grew a few, and it didn't do shit but make me want to puke, it tastes so bad. No effect either.

dagba2.jpg
 

Sheriff Bart

Deputy Spade
Veteran
Leonurus sibiricus/cardiaca (they are basically the same plants) grow all over the fucking US. chances are you can go around your guerrilla grow and find it.

its nothing like cannabis. not even close. I've heard that spice is excellent, but damn expensive even, and most places will not sell it to the US because they dont want it being made illegal. i know of only like 2 places that will ship spice/gold to the US

but to the plants, THC isnt an alkaloid dummies, terpene. and leonurus contains alkaloids like leonurine and some others. wild dagga/kilp dagga (leonurus leonitis/nepetafolia) are much more potent plants containing the same alkaloids. the Hottentots smoke the stuff, but really its not worth it and yields like no results, but then again MN is wayy diff form austrailia...



oh and my wild daggas are jsut starting to show flower buds...i can get some pics of them when they flower fully. the stuff is supposed to make awesome bubble hash/extracts....has nice trichomes too...
 
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medical_shed

If you can get weed don't waste your money on this pish.

It does work in that it gets you pretty monged but if you like to get high as apposed to laying on the couch feeling as though you've been poisoned I'd avoid it. Tolerance builds very quickly too.

Tastes disgusting too.

There are people who prefer it to cannabis but I'd reckon they were people who don't really like cannabis in the first place.

And it's not a single plant but a proprietery blend (secret) of the above ingredients. No safety research has been done on this stuff that I know of and when I smoked it I honestly felt poisoned.
 
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Guest

Any substnce thats makes a teenager get on his hands and knees and bark like a dog should be outlawed lol,check out some of the salvia U-tube videos.Personally, I really don't believe in criminalizing the use of any substance because you're going to have social problems from drug and alcohol abuse regardless of its legality.Besides its been tried to death with dismal results lol but damn Sam some kids gonna smoke some on the way back from the headshop and it could be me that gets nailed!It's too debilitating.
 
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Truthman

It's not salvia that's bad, it's these companies making EXTRACTS that are not needed. I say this because when I first tried salvia there wasn't many extracts out and I just had some leaves that were grown in mexico and it did what it was supposed to do and that was make me question myself and the things around me. I was still aware of my surroundings BUT everything seemed surreal.

What people need to understand is how to smoke it. When I tried bongs, and small pipes, I didn't really feel anything BUT when I used a corn pipe and stuffed it, that's when I felt the effects. That stuff was wild because it made me think that the tv was talking about me when I would turn my back BUT I quickly realized it was MY SUBCONSCIOUS being experienced and my conscious being aware of it.

It's these companies who need to be stopped not the plant. Think about it would you want an extract of tobacco to be made knowing that regular leaf tobacco is strong enough?.
 
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Guest

OK time to fess up.me being the tolerant dopefiend that I am decided the 10x extract was fer me,no use halfsteppin right?Wrong..I remember finishing the first hit,I remember finishing the second and feeling a lil funny,around the end of the third hit the room started disappearing from my peripheral vision inward into a little black dot,then poof.Don't know where I was but was wondering if I was going to survive this.Thought maybe I hadn't.Real deep fear.Then I came to and prompty threw the rest in the garbage.I went straight to level six and missed out on the "magic carpet ride" for those of you that have researched.Could be I overdid it lol but I'll never even inhale second hand smoke from a leaf of that shit again!
 

Sheriff Bart

Deputy Spade
Veteran
salvia is marketed VERY POORLY.
www.sagewisdom/org
www.erowid.org

salvia is crazy stuff though. i kind of like it, i am scared shitless by it, but it's always an intense and very unveiling experience, and it's nice and short! will give you a total diff perspective of the world if you can get it done right....
 
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