Any ideas???thanks

[SouthernYank]

SOIL:FFOF
What STRAIN are you growing?Opiun from Paradise seeds
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)Feminized seeds
What is the age of your plants?mother is 2 months clones are 4 weeks
How Tall are the plants?1ftmonther clones 6 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?veg
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)1 gallon
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)FFOF
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*none
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?liquid
How often are you watering?when they need it.1 time a week
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?
What size bulb are you using?T
What is the distance to the canopy?
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)63%
What is the canopy temperature?
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?no
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?moist
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?Tap but let sit out a few days before i use it
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?No
Are plant's infected with pest's?no

i fed once with FF big bloom,I thought i` might have over fertilized so i flushed and then transplanted in just plain FFof soil and haven`t used any nutes yet.Its been 2 weeks and has not gotten any better.The clones are just starting to have the same problem as the mother.I`m phing my water.I just have no idea what to do.
This is the mother


This is the clone,all the clones are doing the same thing.

 

[MynameStitch]

When you overfertilize and then put your plants back into a hot mixture they will still show burning, you should not have transplanted them into FFOF until they fully recovered from the burn,

Have they gotten worse since the transplant?
Right now I am having a hard time telling if they are still being burned or not, considering the fact the damage stays damaged......

There is a micronutrient lockout that is for sure......

As for the clones, I would not advise putting clones into FFOF straight, the mixture is strong and newer roots are delicate, even from a newly rooted clone.

Can you take some pictures from the sides of the plant rather than the tops so I can see the sides?

 

[SouthernYank]

I started the clones in rapid rooters and then put them into the FFOF.I have always done this in the past with no problems but this is the first time i`ve grown this strain.Since the transplant they have not gotten any better.
Clone

clone

Mother

 

[mjcuresall]

Stitch,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the pic of the mother looks like magnesium deficiency and the leaf curl looks like over watering. They were transplanted into straight soil. The roots may be suffocating.

The soil the clone is in doesn't look like there's enough perlite mixed into it as well. That micro lockout looks like manganese to me. What do you say?

SouthernYank,
How much perlite did you mix into the soil? Just curious, but if you're vegging your plants, why are you using Big Bloom, a flowering nute?

 

[SouthernYank]

I didn`t mix any perilite in.I don`t do that until flower.Sorry for the mistake I meant Grow Big.

 

[MynameStitch]

They are going to natrually look overwatered due to him flushing his plants....... when you flush and transplant they will still show overwatering, but not as bad due to mixture being dry around the wet part, the dry part of the soil will absorb some of the moisture away from the root zone.

Yes, you are correct, the problem is a magneisum deficiency, but in this case it may look like it's deficienct, but due to overfeeding it's a lockout issue, which is why I said micronutrient lockout.

You are very correct in your postings though! You have a great eye

See the problem is his whole plant was damaged and damaged parts do not recover, so it's hard to tell what is old and what is new........
Southern Yank, did you water your plants anymore after you flushed them since they have been in this mixture?

With the flush you did and the transplant, you should have added some extra perlite in there to help it recover quicker.

I would give the plant some magnesium though like mjcuresall has said.....
epsom salts 1 tsp per gallon of water should do it, but make sure you feed them for 2 waterings in a row and then after that add it to your feedings when you start to feed, you should not need to feed for about 2 to 3 weeks.

 

[SouthernYank]

Yes I have watered the mothers since the transpalant but not the clones.they were kinda small when I transplanted them and have not used up all the water in the pot.I will try the epsom salts and get back to you to let you know my results.Thanks for the advice!

 

[MynameStitch]

How often are you watering your plants? When you flushed your plants, how many days later was it when you transplanted them?
After transplanting, when was the last time you watered?

 

[SouthernYank]

I water the mothers about twice a week and the clones about once a week.I waited only 3-4 days to transplant into different soil.i watered after about 1 week in that soil and I just watered 2 minutes ago with the epsom salt mixture.

 

[mjcuresall]

Stitch,
The spotting on the clone in the second pic from the first post- does that look like manganese to you?

You are very correct in your postings though! You have a great eye

Thanks, by the way!

 

[MynameStitch]

No, that is not mangense, mangense normally gets locked out due to cooler temps, hense the color changing, that is mangense, but in the picture it is not.

Ok, I would ease up on the often you water, your plants are still showing some signs of overwatering, until they fully recover from the flush I would wait around 4 or 5 days for the plants to be needed watering again.

 

[SouthernYank]

Thanks,but could use some more help...please.....

Thanks,but could use some more help...please.....

Well,
I would like to thanks the kind folks who helped with the first issue!Thanks!!!!now on to the second:Transplanted into a soli mix about 2 weeks ago.They took off.They seem to be getting some little spots on some of the leaves.I need to water tonight and would like some help.Please let me know if I should add anything to fix this problem.

The soil mix consist of 1 bag of mriacle grow organic + 1 bag of pro mix + 1 cup blood meal + 1 cup bone meal + 1/2 cup dolimite lime + 10-20% added chunky perlite. Water all the way through....

Here are some pics of the garden and of the leaves with spots.thanks