Any chance to save her?

[The_Moz4rt]

Hello Growers,
my brother's plant (his first grow) got pretty sick because he thought he could neglect pH for a couple of days but that's not possible in hydro (dwc).. and here is the obvious result.

I'm trying to help him out but I've never had such a sick plant and I'm actually wondering if there is any possibility to save her.
I've just told him he must adjust pH like RIGHT NOW and make a new solution with a lower EC because it rose up quite a bit, you can see she also got burned leaves from pk 13/14 and bad ph value.. Any other advice? Should he remove dead leaves?
Middle of week 7 of flowering (since flip)


Thanks in advance for any suggestion

 

[Three Berries]

I use rainwater dosed with MgCO3 or chalk. Only a small amount of the MgCO3 will dissolve to balance out the pH. It then will settle out. But the rain water will be about 9.7 pH from that little bit. About 25 mg of Mg per gallon with my rain water will actually dissolve. Use this to flush and water to run off. But the remaining MgCO3 will act as a buffer in the soil and after two or three gallons the pH of the run off will come up.

I've found flushing with water is a never ending waste of time as it takes many gallons only to leave you void of any nutes.

 

[Creeperpark]

You can't save that plant it's a goner. Ask your brother to try using Pro mix soil and learn how to use it before DWC. Deep Water Culture is for more advanced growers that have their environment tuned in.

 

[xet]

Transfer to soil

 

[The_Moz4rt]

Thanks guys, sad to hear she's a goner but I'm not that surprised...

It makes me so angry to see a beautiful plant being killed. It's disrespect, to the plant and to who's helping him. That's what happens when people only care about smoking and don't give a s**t about the whole process.

Time for him to learn the hard way. Once again, growing is not for everyone.

 

[Switcher56]

Thanks guys, sad to hear she's a goner but I'm not that surprised...

It makes me so angry to see a beautiful plant being killed. It's disrespect, to the plant and to who's helping him. That's what happens when people only care about smoking and don't give a s**t about the whole process.

Time for him to learn the hard way. Once again, growing is not for everyone.

... at least it made it further than -- I planted a bean, now what?

 

[Creeperpark]

Moz4rt its easy to burn a plant and almost everyone burns one at some time in their growing experiences. If you learn anything from that grow gone bad then it wasn't for nothing. One lesson is how "not to" do something. Those lessons are just as important as "how to" do lessons. My point is there is no failure when you are learning how to or how not to do something in horticulture. The key is to learn from your mistakes and grow with each garden.

 

[The_Moz4rt]

Moz4rt its easy to burn a plant and almost everyone burns one at some time in their growing experiences. If you learn anything from that grow gone bad then it wasn't for nothing. One lesson is how "not to" do something. Those lessons are just as important as "how to" do lessons. My point is there is no failure when you are learning how to or how not to do something in horticulture. The key is to learn from your mistakes and grow with each garden.

Yeah man you're right, I'm a noob myself and slightly burned a plant too so I know there is almost no learning without mistakes.
I'm probably overreacting as I borrowed him all my growing gear and I was guidinig him from seedling till now.
It just hurts to see a wonderful lady gone bad, especially if it's due to laziness.

The plant was doing great a month ago

 

[Three Berries]

I wouldn't throw it out as long as it's still putting out white hairs on top. You can do a lot in 2 weeks.

 

[St. Phatty]

When the water comes out the bottom of the pot,
what does it drain into ?

 

[The_Moz4rt]

I wouldn't throw it out as long as it's still putting out white hairs on top. You can do a lot in 2 weeks.

Thanks for the advice, Let's see if we can do something. What's the worst scenario? Will she eventually die and stop growing leaving the buds unfinished or do I risk bud rot?

When the water comes out the bottom of the pot,
what does it drain into ?

It's a hand-made DWC bucket

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Yer nearly done.. swap out for plain water and top off till harvest. Anything else will make it worse.

Burned will stay burned, you'll be able to taste the p/k *boost* pretty good.

 

[Mitsuharu]

It's the best example for "never rely on just one plant". So what now if you don't have access to clones... start over from seed with lots of time, energy etc.

 

[Three Berries]

Don't know how much longer you are from maturity . You can flush the soil with some buffered water and this will help to raise the pH. I use 3 tablespoons MgCO3 per gallon of water. Any simple K or Ca would work too.

Course it may just end up hermiing on you too.

 

[The_Moz4rt]

It's the best example for "never rely on just one plant". So what now if you don't have access to clones... start over from seed with lots of time, energy etc.

True. I don't have the space and the money yet but my dream is a RDWC system with clones as they'll all need the same feeding schedule. Also at the moment I somehow feel that seeds harvest better, with the downside of having a random phenotype.
That's just a thought though. I lack lots of experience and knowledge

 

[The_Moz4rt]

Don't know how much longer you are from maturity . You can flush the soil with some buffered water and this will help to raise the pH. I use 3 tablespoons MgCO3 per gallon of water. Any simple K or Ca would work too.

Course it may just end up hermiing on you too.

Me neither man, B.'s F. says 9 weeks (amn3sia lemon) but I guess she's taking way longer and maybe she simply won't finish or die instead. First pics are at the middle of week 7 from 12/12 flip. We'll see how it goes, I can't see her in person as my brother lives in another city. But I'll try my best to get something from this grow, even if it's just going to be experience.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

I watched RDWC hit the forums back in the day, and I have watched all the extra work and equipment make for a lot of failures for a lot of growers since. At the very heart of it RDWCis a bacterial nightmare, it comes built in with a significantly higher number of bacterial growth sites, more points for equipment to fail, quicker mortality when a pump fails and more work for the same yield as DWC.

In 20 years of hydro experience, the most productive, least hassle/problems is with the absolute minimum surface area exposed to your nute solution. This means DWC in large tubs, monocropping because it's one tub, 3 complete exchanges of room/tent air per minute, and as even a light distribution as possible. You want all the plants eating at the same rate, doing everything together till harvest time.

Buuut, these days I'm all about bunny shit tea and neutral'ish soils.