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another example of why it's risky to go to hydro stores in non-med/legal states

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Yep, this thread shows just how badly MJ needs to be legalized. Prohibition has spawned a lot of shitty & stupid attitudes all around, from cops & towards cops, too.

Other than the Vietnam war, prohibition has been the most divisive & destructive issue of my lifetime, corroding the fabric of society. Legalization is a healing opportunity, a way for us to quit waging war against ourselves.

I can't believe how lucky I am to live in Colorado, to have the opportunity to be a part of it, the unfolding of a whole new paradigm, a different & better way for everybody.

It's probably hard for some accustomed to being outlaws to wrap their head around it, but Colorado law protects personal growers from some of life's vicissitudes & from the Feds, as well. It's a whole new deal- stay Colorado legal, do your thing, never worry.

Grow shop? You bet. I trade seeds with one of the guys behind the counter, compare notes, sample each others efforts- all legal, no worries.

I see things that shock my old underground hippie sensibilities, like a guy zipping down I-25 w/ two really nice looking bushy 2' plants tucked in behind the cab of his pickup. No worries for him, either.

Amazing.
 
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I've seen some amazing things here in California. I was used to growing in the South. I bought all my supplies with cash at Home Depot or Walmart. Hydro shops were too risky.

In California, I've been to events like Hempcon and the Cannabis Cup. People are buying bud, hash, edibles, seeds, live plants, grow equipment, whatever they want. Cops are there watching for security, not to bust anyone. You can stand there and have a conversation with a cop while you're holding a live plant. That's one of the coolest things I've seen in my life. Hopefully it will be like that everywhere at some point soon.
 
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m314 said:
I've seen some amazing things here in California. I was used to growing in the South. I bought all my supplies with cash at Home Depot or Walmart. Hydro shops were too risky.

In California, I've been to events like Hempcon and the Cannabis Cup. People are buying bud, hash, edibles, seeds, live plants, grow equipment, whatever they want. Cops are there watching for security, not to bust anyone. You can stand there and have a conversation with a cop while you're holding a live plant. That's one of the coolest things I've seen in my life. Hopefully it will be like that everywhere at some point soon.
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It's still fucked up in CA. Getting busted there is like being the swimmer eaten by a shark, snatched out of the midst of a thousand other swimmers. The fact that the other 999 got away doesn't help the guy who gets eaten, nor does it address the shark problem at all.
 
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Stoned-trout, When you are an MP its obvious where your path leads. When I finished with my time in the Army as an airborne infantry in a recon unit my options were smoke jumper, law enforcement or mercenary if I wanted to utilize the skills I had learned. A few of my friends decided to go the route of the 3 letter organizations. But I think you anwsered your own question. Me, I believed in protecting my country ( back when there was still great pride in being from America) and have always believed law enforcement persons are scum of the earth. I believe we have that in common and are being proven right by their daily actions. Peace
 
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Jhhnn said:
It's still fucked up in CA. Getting busted there is like being the swimmer eaten by a shark, snatched out of the midst of a thousand other swimmers. The fact that the other 999 got away doesn't help the guy who gets eaten, nor does it address the shark problem at all.
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It's fucked up when anyone gets busted for weed. California still seems safe for a hobbyist grower with a current medical recommendation. I don't know what it's like for professional growers, except that the prices are lower and there's less risk compared to my home state.

I'm hoping for full legalization in 2016. Ideally there would be as few restrictions as possible. Everyone should be free to grow whatever they want as long as they're not breaking other laws (stealing power, growing in public parks, etc).
 
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The comments on the Fox News article are funny. No one supports raiding someone's home based on a visit to a hydro shop and finding some green stuff in their trash. Not even the anti-weed conservatives on foxnews.com. No one supports these raids, but they're happening in lots of states anyway.
 
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It said the leafy green substance field tested to be mj.So with the visit to the hydro store and weed in the trash id say it was enough for a warrant in the deep south.But how does tea look like mj?I can bet alot of money was spent on surveillance and kicking this guys door down.They should have lab tested the tea grounds it would have saved alot of headache.
 
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I'm speculating, we all know that store was already under survelliance and they profiled a guy for using said hydro store. Operation Green Merchant, anyone? Still going strong to this day!

And we all know that "field test" never showed positive for dope...There's just NO way tea would trigger a false positive! What a load of bs. All they have to do is claim there was a hit on the green substance, who would question the word of a cop over that of a citizen in this post 911 Amerikkka?? F em. I support my buddys local store(s) and will continue to do so for mj AND veggie farming needs. :moon:



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It said the leafy green substance field tested to be mj.So with the visit to the hydro store and weed in the trash id say it was enough for a warrant in the deep south.But how does tea look like mj?I can bet alot of money was spent on surveillance and kicking this guys door down.They should have lab tested the tea grounds it would have saved alot of headache.
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Article about Colorado license plate profiling:

The legalization of recreational marijuana use may be bringing some tourists into Colorado, but local residents driving out of state are now reporting multiple episodes of what they believe to be “license plate profiling” by police.

According to Yahoo News, there’s been a rise in such accusations among Colorado citizens ever since the state voted to legalize marijuana in 2012. Multiple residents driving in other states have reported being stopped by police for no reason other than to have their car searched for pot.

One such case reportedly occurred in January, when a state trooper in Nevada pulled over Colorado resident David Adkins near Las Vegas. According to local news outlet KRDO, Adkins said the state trooper was actually trailing another target for speeding when he quickly changed targets and began following Adkins.

The incident occurred less than a month after stores in Colorado began selling marijuana, and Adkins believes it’s clear he was stopped for potentially carrying the drug, which has only been legalized in two US states.

"There was no reason for him to pull us over,” Adkins told the station. “Why did he pull us over? Only because we had a Colorado license plate and he stuck his head right in there and started sniffing as soon as he came up to the car.”

Adkins said the trooper claimed he was swerving on the road, but that he did not ask for a license or vehicle registration.

No pot was found, but Nevada state police said swerving qualifies as probable cause to pull an individual over.

Meanwhile, local Fox 31 reported on another January incident last week, when it recounted Darian Roseen’s claim that Idaho state police for allegedly using his Colorado license plate as a reason to pull him over. The 70-year-old retiree was searched for pot multiple times, and is suing the police for their behavior.

“From the facts and even the video of the dash cam of the police car, the conversation turns quickly from a lane change violation to, ‘Where is your marijuana?’” Roseen’s attorney Mark Coonts said to the station.

Again, no pot was found after the searches, and the police declined to comment on the matter due to pending legislation.

As noted by Fox 31, however, numerous state law enforcement agencies are on alert for residents who could be potentially transporting marijuana into their states.

“Troopers are always alert to criminal activity so they will still be watching for those who possess marijuana or are transporting it,” Wyoming Highway Patrol Sergeant Stephen Townsend said in January.

That explanation doesn’t sit well with Coonts, who argued police cannot draw such conclusions based on an individual's license plate or their place of residence.

http://rt.com/usa/connecticut-drivers-police-profiling-marijuana-653/

How low can they go ?

I don't want to know.

Over 10,000 years of documented use of this plant world wide and its gotten to this point... What a epic failure, pathetic disgrace.

The police who do these kind of things are not serving the public, they are purposely lining their pockets and creating a bigger profit for our industrialized prison system. It's fucked up how that is our actual reality.

It's pretty hard to imagine things ever getting better, it doesn't seem to likely at all. Decadence and disorder is our future.
 
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Unfortunatley nothing new, this "License plate profile". Buddy was popped in Arkansass or Alabummer, for no other reason than having an out of state rental car. 5 yrs that cost the dude. So I can believe tptb are now profiling ppl from Co as well as WA, and more than likely us Cali residents face increased scrutiny when crossing state lines too! Watch yo ass out there people! Ain't gettin an easier...:moon:


Sóley said:
The legalization of recreational marijuana use may be bringing some tourists into Colorado, but local residents driving out of state are now reporting multiple episodes of what they believe to be “license plate profiling” by police.

According to Yahoo News, there’s been a rise in such accusations among Colorado citizens ever since the state voted to legalize marijuana in 2012. Multiple residents driving in other states have reported being stopped by police for no reason other than to have their car searched for pot.

One such case reportedly occurred in January, when a state trooper in Nevada pulled over Colorado resident David Adkins near Las Vegas. According to local news outlet KRDO, Adkins said the state trooper was actually trailing another target for speeding when he quickly changed targets and began following Adkins.

The incident occurred less than a month after stores in Colorado began selling marijuana, and Adkins believes it’s clear he was stopped for potentially carrying the drug, which has only been legalized in two US states.

"There was no reason for him to pull us over,” Adkins told the station. “Why did he pull us over? Only because we had a Colorado license plate and he stuck his head right in there and started sniffing as soon as he came up to the car.”

Adkins said the trooper claimed he was swerving on the road, but that he did not ask for a license or vehicle registration.

No pot was found, but Nevada state police said swerving qualifies as probable cause to pull an individual over.

Meanwhile, local Fox 31 reported on another January incident last week, when it recounted Darian Roseen’s claim that Idaho state police for allegedly using his Colorado license plate as a reason to pull him over. The 70-year-old retiree was searched for pot multiple times, and is suing the police for their behavior.

“From the facts and even the video of the dash cam of the police car, the conversation turns quickly from a lane change violation to, ‘Where is your marijuana?’” Roseen’s attorney Mark Coonts said to the station.

Again, no pot was found after the searches, and the police declined to comment on the matter due to pending legislation.

As noted by Fox 31, however, numerous state law enforcement agencies are on alert for residents who could be potentially transporting marijuana into their states.

“Troopers are always alert to criminal activity so they will still be watching for those who possess marijuana or are transporting it,” Wyoming Highway Patrol Sergeant Stephen Townsend said in January.

That explanation doesn’t sit well with Coonts, who argued police cannot draw such conclusions based on an individual's license plate or their place of residence.

http://rt.com/usa/connecticut-drivers-police-profiling-marijuana-653/

How low can they go ?

I don't want to know.
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the one thing i don't like is blatantly obvious that i smoke a lot of bud.. lol.. i figure.. until my life cannot be ruined by this plant.. then i wont go around with a HUGE TARGET on my back.. once its legal.. and people aren't such dicks about it.. and civilians aren't trying to play PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR.. or WANNA BE COPS . Anything in your life.. that could in any way shape or form.. destroy it. or end you up on the wrong side of the legal system.. .. i wouldn't go around putting I GROW WEED on my plate lol

see the problem with the justice system.. is that alot of the punishments dont fit the crimes.. as u see in the news and internet.. theres a dude who is serving 20 years for a weed charge.. when u can Murder someone.. as long as its Second Degree and not premeditated you can get out before the dude who got the weed charges? is that fair..

or how about the fact that you are GUILTY and IMPRISONED even before your TRIAL. if you are infact Innocent until proven guilty.. and legally have the rights to a SPEEDY TRIAL.. why are people spending a year or two in jail EVEN BEFORE CONVICTED?

its like EVEN if they did do it.. Should you REALLY be put in jail before they can prove it ? no.. you should be on house arrest.. if ur homeless.. then maybe jail.. but its such an ASS BACKWARD system.. that i try my hardest to AVOID IT AT ALL COSTS.. honestly.. why fuck around with a system that MAKES MONEY off of destroying your entire life over a fucking PLANT....

sorry for the rant.. but i feel like this dude whose house was raided for tea leaves.. deserves some CASH.. i think it should come out of the Cops pocket.. whoever is to blame for the SHIT EVIDENCE should be the one he can sue.. so cops have a reason to do some actual work . instead of just kicking in some families door.. and make them look like criminals in front of there entire neighborhood. they need to be punished for there actions.. i mean shit i see more and more cops these days breaking the laws..? its like why should civilians follow the law .. if the people enforcing them DON'T.. i mean shit.. i get a ticket for parking in a no parking zone or in front of a fire hydrant.. but they do this on a daily basis.. with no repercussions. they are supposed to set an example.. and be friendly.. and social.. not these MILITARY SPYS that just wana ruin peoples lives for fun
 
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i cant edit.. so that first sentence is supposed to read.. THE ONE THING I DONT LIKE TO DO IS BE BLANTANTLY OBVIOUS THAT I SMOKE ALOT OF BUD.. ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
 
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they cant get us all...ha ha ....theres always been lazy cops looking for easy bust....don't make it easy......stakeing out growshops been going on since they opened up lol.....the worms way I used to go to was ,and I would borrow truck and pull up right in front instead of out back option...waved to the car in corner of lot watching as I left......my friend never got visited,,,60 min drive each way with a few switchback routeing on return
 
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