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An Intro to NO-TILL and REGENERATIVE Gardening

Vandenberg

Well-known member
I found this to be a spiffy little read on "how to get started" , perhaps it will help some folks wrap their mind around what's involved in setting up ones own hobby sized no-till garden. Thee olde Wazzup. :)
Active practioners, feel free to add your own suggestions on how to actually get it on with no-till Gardening.
Many thanks to the author who is the owner of Green River Organics in Michigan.
:)
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COMPOST: MAKE IT-
Start composting now if possible… at the very least, feed the earth your cannabis plant waste/vegetable/fruit waste. Instead of setting your leaves to the curb, let them compost in a corner of your back yard, around the base of trees, or mulch your garden beds to add nutrients to the soil for the next year. But if all possible, you should use all of these in a compost pile to start building your own free soil.

Ratio: 30 Browns (Carbon) : 1 Greens (Nitrogen) is a standard suggestion
(Which makes horse manure my favorite because it is about that naturally!
Horse manure is 25:1, old horse bedding 45:1!)

Browns: dry Stalks and stems, dry grass, straw, leaves, fruit waste

Greens: Cannabis Leaves, vegetables, lawn clippings, plant waste from garden, manure

The ratio is not an exact science as materials you compost very.
Composting will happen no matter what, however having a good ratio will make it happen faster.

Tips: Keep compost moist, stir often, keep pile between 3’-6’ tall. Also, think outside of the box! I get my horse manure from my neighbors for free! They get free clean up and I get free soil!

BUY IT-


Craigslist and marketplace is a great way to get cheaper and bulk compost. Good compost should smell like earth, look like dark rich dirt.

MIX YOU OWN SOIL-

The base of my soil is straight compost. I do not use peat or coco as they are just filler but if you are sourcing your ingredients from the grow store only, it will make your mix a bit cheaper. I only use aeration in indoor beds and I only use pumice and rice hulls. But there is a million recipes out there and you can always adjust to what works best for you!

Soil Base-

Standard Ratio 30% Filler (Peat Moss/COCO) 30% Aeration (pumice, rice hulls, perlite, vermiculite, rocks)

40% compost (compost, worm castings, humus)

My OUTDOOR Ratio 100% Compost

My INDOOR Ratio 80% Compost 20% Aeration (50/50 pumice to rice hulls)

Amending your soil- The goal is to add sources of your macro nutrients (N-P-K) and micro nutrients (trace minerals). I try to keep my mix simple, but diversity in all things can be beneficial!

My Soil I use: Paramagnetic Rock, Tennessee Rock, Sea 90, Cottonseed meal, Fish Bone Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Langbeinite always. Sometimes if I have It, I will add mycos (like bigfoot), insect frass, neem cake meal or karanja meal too! Follow the instructions for how much of each you should add depending on the amount of your base soil you are amending.

After you mix, moisten and cover with a tarp for a couple weeks before use to condition. Or add to beds/mounded rows/pots (25 gallon minimum for flowering indoor) and cover crop and mulch. Once cover crop has sprouted you can transplant other plants (cannabis). I use cedar raised beds indoor and mounded rows outdoor and in greenhouses. I also love adding vermicompost (worm castings) and worms to new soil and beds!

MULCH and COVER CROP:

Mulch
- keeps soil cool and moist and feeds the soil. I like to use barley straw. I also cut back my cover crop often and deleaf my plants and add as mulch too.

Cover crop- also keeps soil cool and adds nutrients to the soil as well as diversity to the rhizosphere. It also is a living mulch to keep chopping and feeding the soil. Build a soil mixed seed is my favorite. I also like to plant food too on the edges of my beds. This is called companion planting. I do it in my vegetable gardens too. Planting lots of species together allows you to grow more in a smaller space. There are other benefits to each other too, like adding nutrients to the soil and pest control. Some things do not grow well together so definitely do your research first. I am working on a chart/list that I will post soon on my site. My favorites to plant with cannabis are basil, cilantro, peas, beans, lettuce, arugula, and dill to name a few.

RE-AMENDING AFTER HARVEST:

After you harvest. Cut stalk at the base but leave the roots. The roots will become food to the soil, and will be ate up and gone in about a week or two. They become food to the new plants you will transplant next to them. If your mulch is thick pull back mulch and re-amend with worm castings or compost as well as a little of all your amendments. If your mulch is thin, amend right on top of it. After you are done amending, spread old mulch, apply new cover crop and mulch. Once your soil is established it is a good idea to get your soil tested to see if you need to add more or less of some things. Or if you notice a deficiency, like nitrogen which is the most common, be sure to add a little more the next round.

IRRIGATION:

Irrigation will keep you soil happy and alive! Soil and the organisms that live there start to die when it gets too dry. It also makes gardening easier and opens up time to work on more things like IPM and pruning. Irrigation is much easier to run in raise beds and mounds which is a big part of why we use them. Also because we try to use as little plastic as possible. Blumat soaker hose is my favorite for irrigation. The hose should be ran under your mulch to prevent algae and keep it closest to your soil.

VERMICOMPOST (WORM BINS):

Use a tote or reservoir that is wider that it is tall. I use my old hydro reservoirs. Add compost, leaf mulch and soil as your base. Make sure your mix is moist but not too wet before adding worms. Mulch with straw and keep moist but don’t drown your wormies! Add more compost as needed. Harvest worms when the bedding is mostly worm castings.

Harvesting worm castings: place a tarp or board in the sun or under grow lights. Dump bin on tarp and mound. The worms with move to the middle away from the warmth and light. Scrap away castings until you reach worms. Wait a bit for worms to migrate again then scrap again. Only you have harvested ¾ of your pile add the worms and remainder castings to your bin with new bedding (base) and start again! Use worm casting to reamend your beds/pots and for tea.

COMPOST TEA: You need a barrel, a air pump and a large tea bag (I use old pillow cases and old bale twine to tie and hang it on the side of the barrel for easy removal after brewing).

You can mix a simple tea of molasses and worm castings if you have nothing else and your plants will love it! But you can always add botanical teas like Dragonfly Earth Medicine, or amendments like sea kelp, fish bone meal (in flowering), or feather meal in (vegetative growth). You can also grow/forage and dry your own botanical teas. Or make fermented plant juice to feed your plants. I recommend researching and experimenting with those too!

IPM INTRAGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT:

TREATMENT IN VEG:
You should treat in vegetative state for disease in pests at least once a week even if you don’t have any visible signs of issues. There are lots of organic ways to treat and prevent issues. I do not treat cannabis in flower, however I will cut back and treat cover crop/mulch on occasion.

Treatments options for organics: Oils, essential oils, soaps, enzymes, beneficial bacteria, and beneficial fungi. Some you can make yourself like EM-1 which is a beneficial bacteria great for preventing disease.
I alternate spraying oil base and soap base.

List of products I like: Suff Oil, Amazing Doctor Zymes, Smite, Mountain Organics, EM-1 (easy and best to make your own), Safer Soap, B.T. (Bacillus thuringiensis), Beauveria Bassiana, and Tweetmint.

Because we spray so many things, we use a barrel, a submersible pump that’s big enough to hook up to a garden hose, a garden hose, and an adjust make nozzle wand (make sure it has mister and fan settings).


TREATMENT IN FLOWER: I like to use beneficial insects in flower. I will also treat the mulch/cover crop if needed. It is not recommended to spray at all after you release beneficial bugs because you will kill them too! My favorite bugs are…

Lacewing eggs (they will hatch quickly into larvae and this is the biggest bang for your buck.) The larvae state is the most beneficial as they eat the most bad bugs during that time. Adult Lacewings don’t eat much. What for new eggs too… they also exist naturally in our area, so check for eggs before you spray in greenhouse and outdoor.

Predator Mites- Amblyseius (=Neoseiulus) cucumeris. These are great for combatting spider mites, broad mites, and thrips.

Lady bugs- are amazing beneficial bugs! However, they are harvested from there natural environment so they are not my first choice or recommendation. In fact, with all the fires out West, they have not been available for purchase for the past year!

Nematodes- They work great to combat bad nematodes, fungus gnats and root aphids. They also help spread beneficial soil drenches like B.T. (beneficial bacteria that actually exist naturally in the soil) and Beauveria Bassiana (beneficial fungus).

Rove Beetles-The Rove beetle (Dalotia coriaria) is a species of soil-dwelling beetles which feeds on fungus gnats, thrips, root aphids and some small mites. The larvae and adults are both aggressive eaters. The larvae are light brown to dark brown in appearance and are more worm-like, while the adults are 3-4 mm long and dark with a slender body and wings. The wings allow them to mobilize from container to container in a grow room and from area to area in an outdoor environment, to attack where pests are prevalent. These wings allow them to establish quickly in their introduced environment as well.

AIR FLOW/VENTILATION:

Air flow and ventilation is so important for disease and pest control. We have high velocity fans in our greenhouses as well as indoor. Make sure plants are not too crowded however try to utilize as much of your canopy. De-leaf/de-foliar especially under the plants to allow more are flow. This is also an excellent time to examine for disease and pest.

Light Deprivation for outdoor/greenhouse:

I recommend using greenhouse plastic to shelter the top of your grow if possible outdoor. We have built simple greenhouse structures out of 4x4s and hog fence. This will help control bud rot and PM (Powdery Mildew). All of our greenhouses have completely open sides as soon as its warm out, to allow great circulation, even the hoop houses. Light deprivation is a great way to get your plants to finish early before the risk of bud root and mildew becomes great during the beginning of fall.


Yields are generally at least as good with no-till agriculture as they are with plow techniques. Though the soil does stay cooler until a little later in the spring because of the insulating layer of residue, the day/night soil temperature fluctuations are smaller. A no-till field rapidly makes up its deficit in growth rate as the weather turns warm. And if the summer should be really hot and dry, no-till yields will nearly always exceed those of plowed ground. Since soil moisture levels can be more than 10% higher in late July in an unplowed piece of ground, it’s not surprising that plants are happier in a field covered with mulch.

Carbon:Nitrogen Ratio List-

https://homesteadontherange.com/2018/08/27/cn-ratios-of-common-organic-materials/

Jeff Lowenfel,"The Lord of the Roots" has a must read or listen to series of books.
I listen to them on audible in the growroom. :)
Jeff Lowenfels- http://www.jefflowenfels.com/
(The teaming with Fungi, bacteria, microbes, nutrients books guy)

Dr. Eliane- Ingham - https://www.soilfoodweb.com/

Chris Trump- "Natural Korean Farming"
Search " Future Cannabis Project" + "Living Soil Conversations" and "Chris Trump" for some short and long video interviews with interesting insights into natural farming.
" Korean Natural Farming in Cannabis" is the title of one. :)
Korean Natural Farming (KNF) is a distinctive farming practice founded on sustainability. KNF promotes the growth of naturally occurring indigenous microorganisms (IMO), which forms the fundamentals of this method.
Today, cannabis cultivators are beginning to adopt KNF to enhance soil and plant health, as well as yield weight and quality.


I would like to toss a cookie to Mother Earth News and suggest that anyone interested in long term sustainability might be interested in 50 years of every issue of this "back to the land" magazine that is available on a searchable USB drive from them for fifty bucks. Articles by people doing it and done that on all matters homestead, definitely interesting.

Vandenberg :)
 
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Vandenberg

Well-known member
To any and all who may be awonderin', I plan on referencing many of my posts as a teaching aid as I address in the future the never grown a thing in their lives type new forum member person and now they want to grow cannabis.

I am attempting to lay down various linkable stepping stones of information with an eye towards helping the New Growers coming Into these ICMAG FORUMS in their pursuit to access title search-able basic grow Information.
Hopefully they then can very quickly advance and develop the various necessary to know type gardening skillsets.
In my mind, I'm will be helping them to grow medicine, if you will.

Many gardening title related keywords do not return relevent post results with many assuming that everyone already knows all that shit, because they do and have for a very long time.
Doesn't everybody? Nope.

I grew indoors hydroponically for decades (oh-oh) and for the past two years have been establishing my outdoor raised bed veggie gardens where I also am raising soil for indoor airpot use. I live in an extremely high wind area, which seems 80 mph type winds during storms in the summertime.I don't bother with outdoor cannabis due to the reliable without fail brutality of the local winds.
Any skinned greenhouse not cement anchored will quickly do an impression of an out of control kite. I had a shade house fly 300 ft and a majority of the metal pipes were bent while landing. I no longer have a shade house.
It ain't the fall that kills you , its the landing. :)
I recently went to a seminar at the local library held by Master Gardeners and impressed the compost out of them with how alive under the microscope the micro-critters in my innoculated garden soil was.
So yes, I do use various techniques to which I post about, its just others have expressed things so well in the past already, and most being not monetized for profit, have no problem with their information being shared, inho
Vandenberg :)
 
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Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
Nice goals, but one thread referencing the existing icmag threads on the subject would be cleaner than starting dupes.
 

VenerableHippie

Active member
Well, for me, if I was the average joe or bloke. I wouldn't be wanting to know this. The advice that got me growing outdoor Sativa successfully was: chook shit, soil 18 inches deep, good drainage, correct pH and don't plant too early or you'll have monsters by November and will be carting water to them all day.

While I admit the my advice is for people who don't believe in bibles ... it works. Sophistication can come later.

So maybe your post suits a narrower audience ...
 

Old Piney

Well-known member
Well, for me, if I was the average joe or bloke. I wouldn't be wanting to know this. The advice that got me growing outdoor Sativa successfully was: chook shit, soil 18 inches deep, good drainage, correct pH and don't plant too early or you'll have monsters by November and will be carting water to them all day.

While I admit the my advice is for people who don't believe in bibles ... it works. Sophistication can come later.

So maybe your post suits a narrower audience ...
I found this to be a spiffy little read on "how to get started" , perhaps it will help some folks wrap their mind around what's involved in setting up ones own hobby sized no-till garden. Thee olde Wazzup. :)
Active practioners, feel free to add your own suggestions on how to actually get it on with no-till Gardening.
Many thanks to the author who is the owner of Green River Organics in Michigan.
:)
}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
COMPOST: MAKE IT-
Start composting now if possible… at the very least, feed the earth your cannabis plant waste/vegetable/fruit waste. Instead of setting your leaves to the curb, let them compost in a corner of your back yard, around the base of trees, or mulch your garden beds to add nutrients to the soil for the next year. But if all possible, you should use all of these in a compost pile to start building your own free soil.

Ratio: 30 Browns (Carbon) : 1 Greens (Nitrogen) is a standard suggestion
(Which makes horse manure my favorite because it is about that naturally!
Horse manure is 25:1, old horse bedding 45:1!)

Browns: dry Stalks and stems, dry grass, straw, leaves, fruit waste

Greens: Cannabis Leaves, vegetables, lawn clippings, plant waste from garden, manure

The ratio is not an exact science as materials you compost very.
Composting will happen no matter what, however having a good ratio will make it happen faster.

Tips: Keep compost moist, stir often, keep pile between 3’-6’ tall. Also, think outside of the box! I get my horse manure from my neighbors for free! They get free clean up and I get free soil!

BUY IT-


Craigslist and marketplace is a great way to get cheaper and bulk compost. Good compost should smell like earth, look like dark rich dirt.

MIX YOU OWN SOIL-

The base of my soil is straight compost. I do not use peat or coco as they are just filler but if you are sourcing your ingredients from the grow store only, it will make your mix a bit cheaper. I only use aeration in indoor beds and I only use pumice and rice hulls. But there is a million recipes out there and you can always adjust to what works best for you!

Soil Base-

Standard Ratio 30% Filler (Peat Moss/COCO) 30% Aeration (pumice, rice hulls, perlite, vermiculite, rocks)

40% compost (compost, worm castings, humus)

My OUTDOOR Ratio 100% Compost

My INDOOR Ratio 80% Compost 20% Aeration (50/50 pumice to rice hulls)

Amending your soil- The goal is to add sources of your macro nutrients (N-P-K) and micro nutrients (trace minerals). I try to keep my mix simple, but diversity in all things can be beneficial!

My Soil I use: Paramagnetic Rock, Tennessee Rock, Sea 90, Cottonseed meal, Fish Bone Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Langbeinite always. Sometimes if I have It, I will add mycos (like bigfoot), insect frass, neem cake meal or karanja meal too! Follow the instructions for how much of each you should add depending on the amount of your base soil you are amending.

After you mix, moisten and cover with a tarp for a couple weeks before use to condition. Or add to beds/mounded rows/pots (25 gallon minimum for flowering indoor) and cover crop and mulch. Once cover crop has sprouted you can transplant other plants (cannabis). I use cedar raised beds indoor and mounded rows outdoor and in greenhouses. I also love adding vermicompost (worm castings) and worms to new soil and beds!

MULCH and COVER CROP:

Mulch
- keeps soil cool and moist and feeds the soil. I like to use barley straw. I also cut back my cover crop often and deleaf my plants and add as mulch too.

Cover crop- also keeps soil cool and adds nutrients to the soil as well as diversity to the rhizosphere. It also is a living mulch to keep chopping and feeding the soil. Build a soil mixed seed is my favorite. I also like to plant food too on the edges of my beds. This is called companion planting. I do it in my vegetable gardens too. Planting lots of species together allows you to grow more in a smaller space. There are other benefits to each other too, like adding nutrients to the soil and pest control. Some things do not grow well together so definitely do your research first. I am working on a chart/list that I will post soon on my site. My favorites to plant with cannabis are basil, cilantro, peas, beans, lettuce, arugula, and dill to name a few.

RE-AMENDING AFTER HARVEST:

After you harvest. Cut stalk at the base but leave the roots. The roots will become food to the soil, and will be ate up and gone in about a week or two. They become food to the new plants you will transplant next to them. If your mulch is thick pull back mulch and re-amend with worm castings or compost as well as a little of all your amendments. If your mulch is thin, amend right on top of it. After you are done amending, spread old mulch, apply new cover crop and mulch. Once your soil is established it is a good idea to get your soil tested to see if you need to add more or less of some things. Or if you notice a deficiency, like nitrogen which is the most common, be sure to add a little more the next round.

IRRIGATION:

Irrigation will keep you soil happy and alive! Soil and the organisms that live there start to die when it gets too dry. It also makes gardening easier and opens up time to work on more things like IPM and pruning. Irrigation is much easier to run in raise beds and mounds which is a big part of why we use them. Also because we try to use as little plastic as possible. Blumat soaker hose is my favorite for irrigation. The hose should be ran under your mulch to prevent algae and keep it closest to your soil.

VERMICOMPOST (WORM BINS):

Use a tote or reservoir that is wider that it is tall. I use my old hydro reservoirs. Add compost, leaf mulch and soil as your base. Make sure your mix is moist but not too wet before adding worms. Mulch with straw and keep moist but don’t drown your wormies! Add more compost as needed. Harvest worms when the bedding is mostly worm castings.

Harvesting worm castings: place a tarp or board in the sun or under grow lights. Dump bin on tarp and mound. The worms with move to the middle away from the warmth and light. Scrap away castings until you reach worms. Wait a bit for worms to migrate again then scrap again. Only you have harvested ¾ of your pile add the worms and remainder castings to your bin with new bedding (base) and start again! Use worm casting to reamend your beds/pots and for tea.

COMPOST TEA: You need a barrel, a air pump and a large tea bag (I use old pillow cases and old bale twine to tie and hang it on the side of the barrel for easy removal after brewing).

You can mix a simple tea of molasses and worm castings if you have nothing else and your plants will love it! But you can always add botanical teas like Dragonfly Earth Medicine, or amendments like sea kelp, fish bone meal (in flowering), or feather meal in (vegetative growth). You can also grow/forage and dry your own botanical teas. Or make fermented plant juice to feed your plants. I recommend researching and experimenting with those too!

IPM INTRAGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT:

TREATMENT IN VEG:
You should treat in vegetative state for disease in pests at least once a week even if you don’t have any visible signs of issues. There are lots of organic ways to treat and prevent issues. I do not treat cannabis in flower, however I will cut back and treat cover crop/mulch on occasion.

Treatments options for organics: Oils, essential oils, soaps, enzymes, beneficial bacteria, and beneficial fungi. Some you can make yourself like EM-1 which is a beneficial bacteria great for preventing disease.
I alternate spraying oil base and soap base.

List of products I like: Suff Oil, Amazing Doctor Zymes, Smite, Mountain Organics, EM-1 (easy and best to make your own), Safer Soap, B.T. (Bacillus thuringiensis), Beauveria Bassiana, and Tweetmint.

Because we spray so many things, we use a barrel, a submersible pump that’s big enough to hook up to a garden hose, a garden hose, and an adjust make nozzle wand (make sure it has mister and fan settings).


TREATMENT IN FLOWER: I like to use beneficial insects in flower. I will also treat the mulch/cover crop if needed. It is not recommended to spray at all after you release beneficial bugs because you will kill them too! My favorite bugs are…

Lacewing eggs (they will hatch quickly into larvae and this is the biggest bang for your buck.) The larvae state is the most beneficial as they eat the most bad bugs during that time. Adult Lacewings don’t eat much. What for new eggs too… they also exist naturally in our area, so check for eggs before you spray in greenhouse and outdoor.

Predator Mites- Amblyseius (=Neoseiulus) cucumeris. These are great for combatting spider mites, broad mites, and thrips.

Lady bugs- are amazing beneficial bugs! However, they are harvested from there natural environment so they are not my first choice or recommendation. In fact, with all the fires out West, they have not been available for purchase for the past year!

Nematodes- They work great to combat bad nematodes, fungus gnats and root aphids. They also help spread beneficial soil drenches like B.T. (beneficial bacteria that actually exist naturally in the soil) and Beauveria Bassiana (beneficial fungus).

Rove Beetles-The Rove beetle (Dalotia coriaria) is a species of soil-dwelling beetles which feeds on fungus gnats, thrips, root aphids and some small mites. The larvae and adults are both aggressive eaters. The larvae are light brown to dark brown in appearance and are more worm-like, while the adults are 3-4 mm long and dark with a slender body and wings. The wings allow them to mobilize from container to container in a grow room and from area to area in an outdoor environment, to attack where pests are prevalent. These wings allow them to establish quickly in their introduced environment as well.

AIR FLOW/VENTILATION:

Air flow and ventilation is so important for disease and pest control. We have high velocity fans in our greenhouses as well as indoor. Make sure plants are not too crowded however try to utilize as much of your canopy. De-leaf/de-foliar especially under the plants to allow more are flow. This is also an excellent time to examine for disease and pest.

Light Deprivation for outdoor/greenhouse:

I recommend using greenhouse plastic to shelter the top of your grow if possible outdoor. We have built simple greenhouse structures out of 4x4s and hog fence. This will help control bud rot and PM (Powdery Mildew). All of our greenhouses have completely open sides as soon as its warm out, to allow great circulation, even the hoop houses. Light deprivation is a great way to get your plants to finish early before the risk of bud root and mildew becomes great during the beginning of fall.


Yields are generally at least as good with no-till agriculture as they are with plow techniques. Though the soil does stay cooler until a little later in the spring because of the insulating layer of residue, the day/night soil temperature fluctuations are smaller. A no-till field rapidly makes up its deficit in growth rate as the weather turns warm. And if the summer should be really hot and dry, no-till yields will nearly always exceed those of plowed ground. Since soil moisture levels can be more than 10% higher in late July in an unplowed piece of ground, it’s not surprising that plants are happier in a field covered with mulch.

Carbon:Nitrogen Ratio List-

https://homesteadontherange.com/2018/08/27/cn-ratios-of-common-organic-materials/

Jeff Lowenfel,"The Lord of the Roots" has a must read or listen to series of books.
I listen to them on audible in the growroom. :)
Jeff Lowenfels- http://www.jefflowenfels.com/
(The teaming with Fungi, bacteria, microbes, nutrients books guy)

Dr. Eliane- Ingham - https://www.soilfoodweb.com/

Chris Trump- "Natural Korean Farming"
Search " Future Cannabis Project" + "Living Soil Conversations" and "Chris Trump" for some short and long video interviews with interesting insights into natural farming.
" Korean Natural Farming in Cannabis" is the title of one. :)
Korean Natural Farming (KNF) is a distinctive farming practice founded on sustainability. KNF promotes the growth of naturally occurring indigenous microorganisms (IMO), which forms the fundamentals of this method.
Today, cannabis cultivators are beginning to adopt KNF to enhance soil and plant health, as well as yield weight and quality.


I would like to toss a cookie to Mother Earth News and suggest that anyone interested in long term sustainability might be interested in 50 years of every issue of this "back to the land" magazine that is available on a searchable USB drive from them for fifty bucks. Articles by people doing it and done that on all matters homestead, definitely interesting.

Vandenberg :)
Nice post! Lots of good info to apply to any grow
 

Lotto

Well-known member
Organics can sometimes sound complicated to a beginner gardner. What you are doing is feeding the soil. I will comment on what has worked for me for many decades.
My native soils are some of the best in the world. But even the best need help. Leaves, manures and cover crops are all I use. Many tons over large areas. They provide all a plant needs. When incorporated into soils, leaves and cover crops provide the food for the best soil builder there is. Worms.
Van, can't answer your question on strict no-till. I fall somewhere in between. Whether organics are dumped, tilled or otherwise is not as important as just doing it.
 

Lotto

Well-known member
Well, for me, if I was the average joe or bloke. I wouldn't be wanting to know this. The advice that got me growing outdoor Sativa successfully was: chook shit, soil 18 inches deep, good drainage, correct pH and don't plant too early or you'll have monsters by November and will be carting water to them all day.

While I admit the my advice is for people who don't believe in bibles ... it works. Sophistication can come later.

So maybe your post suits a narrower audience ...
By chook shit, do you mean chinook. If so, couldn't agree more. I fish at least every week and over the course of the garden season many buckets of entrails are buried. Provides both quick and slow release food to plants.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
I have an area where I throw all the wet cardboard and other sort-of garbage that has animals living on it.

Was going to rake it into a pile and put rocks around it, and call it my "Man-made soil" area.

I don't like throwing out things that are covered with bugs or worms.
 

Vandenberg

Well-known member
Chook = Chicken
I have Chooks, I just discovered that I can deodorize the Chooks pen by spraying it down with a hose end sprayer with EM1 (after a rain), when it reminded me that the yard was now stinking when wet. Like magic, ( microbe magic) a week later (and another rain) no stinkypoo anymore. Sweet. :)
The shit and microbe nfused straw when raked up will be more than happy (deliriously?) to participate in a compost heap, of that I am sure.

I would spray some "EM-1" (Essential Microbes) on that random, used to be alive items of a garbage pile and it will/ should quickly decompose for you (in a month or two)..
Anaerobic conditions only encourage these little fellers.
These badass microbes, unlike traditional compost piles, have no layering or brown/green ratios to worry about, they just don' t care and they just go to town in short order by decomposing by an induced fermentation process., even in sub-optimum conditions.

This EM-1 is hard to search for here being so short of a search word term, so here are some posts linked here.
These are interesting and useful microbiological lifeforms that do amazing things.
I would like to nominate them for the coveted "Microbes of the year" award. :)

Vandenberg :)
 
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Vandenberg

Well-known member

How does regenerative farming go beyond Organic?

The regenerative practices go beyond sustainability in that they seek to heal, improve, and remediate the land.

Organic farming on its own is not necessarily regenerative or sustainable.

Quite often there are huge environmental impacts associated with organic products and nutrients.
Many organic amendments are unsustainably mined and transported.

Other organic products for pest control might seem safe and environmentally friendly, but in reality are detrimental to native diversity, especially our incredibly important pollinating insects like bees.

Regenerative Farming” is a term used to refer to improving soil health, or sequestering carbon using no-till practices and/or planting cover crops.
It can include integrating livestock and crop production, and improving animal welfare practices.
The single purpose of the regenerative farming is to reduce Greenhouse Gas Emissions (GHGs) and draw-down carbon from the atmosphere.


The growing of Cannabis in a pure and natural way is a beautiful thing :)
Cannabis is a powerful medicine with many regenerative properties for human health, but if it is grown with harmful products it becomes a toxic shell of its true potential.

Products like concentrates and edibles are unforgiving when it comes to safety testing.

Using certain chemicals for nutrition, and various poisons like fungicides and pesticides at any stage, will lead to a worthless and potentially dangerous products and medicines.


Concentrates do concentrate.
Flowers that might pass testing can have concentrates that fail.


As we move into the open and legal age of cannabis, it becomes increasingly important for people to source a clean, pure medicine, and that is where growing ones own affordable medicine comes into play.
There are very many ways to arrive there.


Vandenberg :)
 
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Douglas.Curtis

Autistic Diplomat in Training
No need to source EM-1 specifically for odor control, the rice wash, milk method for EM works a treat. Super inexpensive as well.

Rinse a cup or two of rice with clean water
Dump the rinse water in a container with a breathable lid (recommended first rinse only)
Let it sit for 5-7 days
Filter/Strain the middle liquid from the top crud, leaving the sediment in the bottom of the container
Mix the liquid with whole milk in an EM:Milk ratio of 1:10
Leave in ambient temperatures and in a container with a wide top for 5-7 days
Most of the milk will curdle and rise to the top, and some will sink to the bottom, while a middle layer of slightly yellow color also forms
You can eat the very healthy for you curdled milk or give it to animals or the compost pile
Mix the slightly yellowing liquid with blackstrap molasses 1:1

Use this at approximately a tablespoon per gallon.

You can also use this for MANY things around the house. When using to clean up stains and such on fabric/carpet, you may want to skip the molasses for stain purposes. ;)
 

VenerableHippie

Active member
By chook shit, do you mean chinook. If so, couldn't agree more. I fish at least every week and over the course of the garden season many buckets of entrails are buried. Provides both quick and slow release food to plants.
I 'm in Australia where 'Chook' = 'chicken' or 'hen'. Chicken shit because it has a calcium content. Also 'November' here is equivalent to June in the northern hemisphere.

If I could get it I 'd use fish waste too.
 

Lotto

Well-known member
I use many tons of horse manure a year for large areas. Rabbit poop for containers and fish remains as a side dress. Chicken shit when I get it also as a side dress. Wish I could get more, packs a punch compared to the other manures. If I could measure worm poop in soils the volume would might surprise you.
I 'm in Australia where 'Chook' = 'chicken' or 'hen'. Chicken shit because it has a calcium content. Also 'November' here is equivalent to June in the northern hemisphere.

If I could get it I 'd use fish waste too.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
I use night soil for potatoes ... but I have no desire to dig up the potatoes.

The deer eat the potato plant leaves & that's good enough for me.
 

VenerableHippie

Active member
I use night soil for potatoes ... but I have no desire to dig up the potatoes.

The deer eat the potato plant leaves & that's good enough for me.
One of my Sons buried the 5 gal shit can and a week or so later planted a Sativa beside it. I never saw the plant (altho it was 50 yards from the house) but it attained a historical size according to my other Sons.

And hey, Phatty, they reckon it was GOOD SHIT!!!
 

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