What has been your experiance with Muscaria? Just curious here, playing poker online and a bit bored waiting between turns.
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Amanita Muscaria?
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dont know much about em. although they make great pics
NoNameNoshame
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I hear they start where the normal blue staining leave off.
I've never read a positive report. I do remember a report of someone eating 12grams and basically going to his idea of hell.
So, If your not ego-less, to say that you are on average you are aware of 2,000 bits of information per second vs. the 400 billion bits of information your brain is processing per second.........I wouldn't try, all the information that the muscaria will bring into awarness will be your idea of hell.
Many other plants in the sea : )
I've never read a positive report. I do remember a report of someone eating 12grams and basically going to his idea of hell.
So, If your not ego-less, to say that you are on average you are aware of 2,000 bits of information per second vs. the 400 billion bits of information your brain is processing per second.........I wouldn't try, all the information that the muscaria will bring into awarness will be your idea of hell.
Many other plants in the sea : )
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Yeah, I've heard that, too, NoName. Then again, I've also heard it's not wise to try Muscaria if you're looking for a high, but rather to try it if you want to attempt to expand your mind. One of those "broken record" warnings, I suppose, for lack of better description.
right, Amanita muscaria is not for fun, better to use it as the entheogen it is. It's very potent shamanic tool, most especially for people around Siberia/Mongolia. This is the "plant" which makes possible for the shaman to reach get in touch with spirits and travel through worlds.
Gives real hallucinations, and can go on delirogen side as well. One has to be carefull with these !
a few reports (goods and bads trips) : http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Amanitas.shtml
Irie !
Gives real hallucinations, and can go on delirogen side as well. One has to be carefull with these !
a few reports (goods and bads trips) : http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Amanitas.shtml
Irie !
weedlighter
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Very few people know how to prepare them , they need to be cooked at a strict temperature, plus a secret herbal ingredient needs to be consumed with them to activate there full magick properties.
I am happy to say the secret ingredient has been properly guarded and hardly anyone knows about it.
I am happy to say the secret ingredient has been properly guarded and hardly anyone knows about it.
weedlighter said:
lol wtf are you talking about. Anyways the active ingriedient in them is muscimol. The process of heating is important to turn the ibotenic acid into muscimol. Heres the process in which to do so. http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas_info_petri.shtml
I suggest you also take a general look over their vault on erowid to get a feel on what theyre like.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas.shtml
GoodbyeBlueSky
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never really enjoyed Amanitas myself... if i were you i'd look into mescaline cacti instead... they are legally available and make for a much better experience imo...
J
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weedlighter said:
LOL are you Indiana Jones or something?
TheGreatEscape
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Yea these mushrooms are strange, not like the typical psylosybin, at all. I bought an oz. from a online store BBB and first just took the shake from the bag of aboout 6 good size caps, heated it to 190F for an hour in water, and then drank the liquid I filtered through coffee filters, intriguing somewhat.
Next I cut all the oz. into slivers and food processed it to powder-like consistency, from there I wanted to try a small 2 tsp amount from this half cup amount of powder I ended up with, simmered at 190F for an hour also, and drank filtered liquid, but added a Gotu Kola herb pill to this for thought that it might be good, and so drank all that filtered liquid, and hardley any notable hallucinations were experienced, granted this was a very low dose, but there was a overall relaxed feeling, and just mental alertness that was all, did that last night, the liquid is very mushroon tasting, hard for anyone to drink, I wondered if I must also eat the flesh, as well next timer for more effect, but I fugured that any activity in the ground matter was thouroughly exhausted by the hour-long tea proccess.
I don't know, there doesn't seen to be any negative effects if you heat in water at 190F for a whole hour, maybe the "hell" experiences are from those who simply ate the mushrooms dried just so. If you go through the simmering process, like I did, you can safely increase the amount you wish to consume, w/o a horrible gut wrenching feeling.
I may go for a doubling of my previous dose of 2 tsp, to 4 tsp and see. I am very intersted in this mushrooms potential overall, but know that you should not just eat them as the ibotanic acid is not converted in to muscimole first, and you body will have to do that if you don't perpare them first, so maybe that is why some say they had such a hellatious experience from them.
Perhaps cannabis is the proper thing to use with drinking the tea as it will quell the possibly nauseating, reaction to the taste of the tea, not a really bad feeling if you start off with low doses and work up.
But yea, don't just eat the mushroom dry, and absolutely by no means eat then freshly picked! Good luck with this mushroom, it must not have a severe tripping agent since it is still legal, don't expect too much I guess.
Next I cut all the oz. into slivers and food processed it to powder-like consistency, from there I wanted to try a small 2 tsp amount from this half cup amount of powder I ended up with, simmered at 190F for an hour also, and drank filtered liquid, but added a Gotu Kola herb pill to this for thought that it might be good, and so drank all that filtered liquid, and hardley any notable hallucinations were experienced, granted this was a very low dose, but there was a overall relaxed feeling, and just mental alertness that was all, did that last night, the liquid is very mushroon tasting, hard for anyone to drink, I wondered if I must also eat the flesh, as well next timer for more effect, but I fugured that any activity in the ground matter was thouroughly exhausted by the hour-long tea proccess.
I don't know, there doesn't seen to be any negative effects if you heat in water at 190F for a whole hour, maybe the "hell" experiences are from those who simply ate the mushrooms dried just so. If you go through the simmering process, like I did, you can safely increase the amount you wish to consume, w/o a horrible gut wrenching feeling.
I may go for a doubling of my previous dose of 2 tsp, to 4 tsp and see. I am very intersted in this mushrooms potential overall, but know that you should not just eat them as the ibotanic acid is not converted in to muscimole first, and you body will have to do that if you don't perpare them first, so maybe that is why some say they had such a hellatious experience from them.
Perhaps cannabis is the proper thing to use with drinking the tea as it will quell the possibly nauseating, reaction to the taste of the tea, not a really bad feeling if you start off with low doses and work up.
But yea, don't just eat the mushroom dry, and absolutely by no means eat then freshly picked! Good luck with this mushroom, it must not have a severe tripping agent since it is still legal, don't expect too much I guess.
I've done them
I've done them
Here's my trip report.
Oh 1st though Weedlighter you can eat them fresh no cooking required.
However cooking has been suggested, Ive done them both ways and cooking is better.
now for your curiosity.
4 other Soldiers and I found a lot of AMs in the woods near our Post. We had a weeked to screw off with and we bought a book on Magic Mushrooms.
we where scared to pick the wrong mushies and die.
So we got about 1/2 pound of the shrooms, and boiled em in beer! We where soldiers after all and didn't have a kitchen
After it was boiled down to about 1 or 2 shot glasses full for each of us, we each gulped down the sludge. Yes it was awful.
After an hour of nothing happening th 4 other guys went back to their rooms, I stayed and finished up shinning my boots. I noticed I really was getting into shinning the boots, I was getting a little sick.... then a lot sick.
I staggered down the hall to the bathroom, found a stall and let rip. ahhhhh that felt good! I stood up and cleaned my self off and staggered down the hall to my buddoes room.
Inside where the other 4 fellows.... " Did you throw up they asked?" all of them had just got to this room after leaving the Porcelain Chapel.
We all felt extremely drunk at ths point. We turned on the TV to help distract us. Shortly the trip started. We worried we ate the wrong type and I said. " Fellas we done fucked up and are going to die for it. I'm sure we will wake up tomarrow to read that 5 GIs died eating poison Mushrooms!"
We sat in that room trying to watch TV and couldn't talk to each other. Every time we closed our eyes Geometric shaped would slide and collide into each other. No colors to speak of. This made us dizzy so we tried to watch TV but that was too hard. So we just sat there waiting for it to end.. or die.
I remeber my arm felt like a Mushroom Stem. Like if I cut it off, it wouldn't bleed, just a fibrous stump! But I knew I couldn't cut off my arm I'd bleed to death. So I felt like a AM mushie! I was in fact that shroom.
Soon we saw Pixies climming the desk and TV, they had little ropes and picks. They paid us no mind what so ever. Like we could only see inside their world, we couldn't touch them, we didn't even try for fear they might get pissed. We all saw them!
Then after a bit, I was gone and became a PINE TREE. It was beautiful!
I was seeing an eons old pine forest 360* view of my world. Nothing but the other tops of pines as far as my 360 vision could see with cloudless blue sky abouve all seen at once! i was a TREE! I swayed in the wind and knew I had been there rooted for hundreds of years.
After Im gussing 8 to 10 hours we came down no worse for the wear.
It was not fun. I'd do them again... cooked better. We just gussed. We where stupid.
You do see into other worlds, it's not ment to be used as a party drug. We didn't have a clue.
I've eaten them fresh but only in small amounts and you get a Drunk feeling with mabe only 1/4 of a cap.
I don't recommend people try them, unless they have experience with hallucinogens.
These are in no way like Cubies, I perfer the cyanescens over Cubies. Cubies have too heavy a body load for my liking.. beside with Pan. Cyanescens you use less and I think get more out of them. But Cubies are easy to grow your self. Just don't like the tummy upset with Cubies, they just don't do alot for me.
Sin
I've done them
Here's my trip report.
Oh 1st though Weedlighter you can eat them fresh no cooking required.
However cooking has been suggested, Ive done them both ways and cooking is better.
now for your curiosity.
4 other Soldiers and I found a lot of AMs in the woods near our Post. We had a weeked to screw off with and we bought a book on Magic Mushrooms.
we where scared to pick the wrong mushies and die.
So we got about 1/2 pound of the shrooms, and boiled em in beer! We where soldiers after all and didn't have a kitchen
After it was boiled down to about 1 or 2 shot glasses full for each of us, we each gulped down the sludge. Yes it was awful.
After an hour of nothing happening th 4 other guys went back to their rooms, I stayed and finished up shinning my boots. I noticed I really was getting into shinning the boots, I was getting a little sick.... then a lot sick.
I staggered down the hall to the bathroom, found a stall and let rip. ahhhhh that felt good! I stood up and cleaned my self off and staggered down the hall to my buddoes room.
Inside where the other 4 fellows.... " Did you throw up they asked?" all of them had just got to this room after leaving the Porcelain Chapel.
We all felt extremely drunk at ths point. We turned on the TV to help distract us. Shortly the trip started. We worried we ate the wrong type and I said. " Fellas we done fucked up and are going to die for it. I'm sure we will wake up tomarrow to read that 5 GIs died eating poison Mushrooms!"
We sat in that room trying to watch TV and couldn't talk to each other. Every time we closed our eyes Geometric shaped would slide and collide into each other. No colors to speak of. This made us dizzy so we tried to watch TV but that was too hard. So we just sat there waiting for it to end.. or die.
I remeber my arm felt like a Mushroom Stem. Like if I cut it off, it wouldn't bleed, just a fibrous stump! But I knew I couldn't cut off my arm I'd bleed to death. So I felt like a AM mushie! I was in fact that shroom.
Soon we saw Pixies climming the desk and TV, they had little ropes and picks. They paid us no mind what so ever. Like we could only see inside their world, we couldn't touch them, we didn't even try for fear they might get pissed. We all saw them!
Then after a bit, I was gone and became a PINE TREE. It was beautiful!
I was seeing an eons old pine forest 360* view of my world. Nothing but the other tops of pines as far as my 360 vision could see with cloudless blue sky abouve all seen at once! i was a TREE! I swayed in the wind and knew I had been there rooted for hundreds of years.
After Im gussing 8 to 10 hours we came down no worse for the wear.
It was not fun. I'd do them again... cooked better. We just gussed. We where stupid.
You do see into other worlds, it's not ment to be used as a party drug. We didn't have a clue.
I've eaten them fresh but only in small amounts and you get a Drunk feeling with mabe only 1/4 of a cap.
I don't recommend people try them, unless they have experience with hallucinogens.
These are in no way like Cubies, I perfer the cyanescens over Cubies. Cubies have too heavy a body load for my liking.. beside with Pan. Cyanescens you use less and I think get more out of them. But Cubies are easy to grow your self. Just don't like the tummy upset with Cubies, they just don't do alot for me.
Sin
Gangabiss said:
No but what does have to do with the legal status is people enjoying these substances. Unlike lsd and psilocibin muchrooms who has more enjoyable experiences then unenjoyable with these substances, amanita and salvia, more people have a bad time on them then good which is why I think theyre still legal.
Laxpunker
Active member
Gangabiss said:
Have you actually done Salvia...I really wouldn't call it the most powerful hallucinogen. The trip lasts for all of five minutes, it's a non sensical trip, and it's just flat our confusing not fun or "scary". My experience with it occured on the lake, we were on the beach looking out at the water smoking some bowls. Someone comes by with some 20x Salvia, we all of course agree to try it (used a dry bong). Two out of five people didn't feel anything (which is a common report, I wonder if some people are immune to it), and the rest of us felt extremely drunk for all of five minutes.
I thought gravity had changed, instead of pulling me straight down I could feel it pulling me down and backwards, a diagonal pull if you will. So aside from amusing my friends by trying to stand up straight...nothing really happened.
Also I'd suggest skipping Amanita Muscaria, it is the most intense thing I've ever taken in my life (Datura being a close second). Normally I hate it when my trips start to end, however if I could of I'd have done a celebratory dance for this one.
Laxpunker said:
Not all experiences are the same. People can and do have strong psychedellic experiences on salvia and yes its is one of the most powerful hallucinogens. For the amount of active materials to plantt matter its extremly strong and powerful. People see strong visions. You prolly didnt have a strong enough lighter. Try use a torch lighter and holding each hit for 5-10 seconds then quickly taking another.
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Laxpunker said:
Yes I have tried salvie 10x and 20x extract.
Total diconnection with reality and I went to some VERY strange places...alot more intense and much 'darker' feel than my shroom trips have ever got.
Salvia seems to have a much more sinister vibe about it than other psychadelics like mushrooms.
when I say powerful I don't refer to the visuals or the mind expansion I'm talking about the overall intensity of the experience.
Has anyone experienced that compression feeling on salvia? It feels like pressure is being applied all over your body and you are being drawn inside your body in some way.
If you want to try it again I'd suggest taking huge tokes and holding them in for as long as you can. I've heard using a torch lighter is best as salvia vapourises at a much higher temperature than say weed.
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TheGreatEscape
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update:
update:
OK, today just now, in a small saucepot I made the AM tea but used 4 tsp instead of 2, of powdered caps only, but only cooked at 190F for 20 min.
I also added a tbs hemp protien powder, some tobasco, salt, & pepper which made it MUCH easier to comsume, downright tasty actually and not nauseating AT ALL!
I don't know if the added ingredients to my brew are gonna subtract from the effects, but they def. added to the taste for sure. I feel fine. I am pretty sure I got the real thing,
http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/washington-state-amanita-muscariagrade-ounce-p-352.html
They were dried and had red skin along with lots of the off white bumps on them and they ranged in size from 2-2.5" with one orangish one being 3" daimeter. The were whole easily identifyable not broken up. I realize the effects may vary from one to another due to the time of picking.
The mushroom is pleasant aside from the foreign/new nauseating taste only during ngestion, which I am getting use to over time, much like with cannabis use was for me at frirst (well most kinds of schwag I still avoid becasue they make me puke which I altogether avoid now) I just stick with some finer self grown stuff now.
OK, so forgive me if I seem overly cautious about the preparation, but I read lots of info about the strict adherence to heating them (in water) for best results, maybe I WOULD get more skull fucked if I just ate the dried AM as is, but I revere this mushroom with more respect than psylocybin, and want to take it easier to get to know this mushroom, which so far has not done me wrong.
update:
OK, today just now, in a small saucepot I made the AM tea but used 4 tsp instead of 2, of powdered caps only, but only cooked at 190F for 20 min.
I also added a tbs hemp protien powder, some tobasco, salt, & pepper which made it MUCH easier to comsume, downright tasty actually and not nauseating AT ALL!
I don't know if the added ingredients to my brew are gonna subtract from the effects, but they def. added to the taste for sure. I feel fine. I am pretty sure I got the real thing,
http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/washington-state-amanita-muscariagrade-ounce-p-352.html
They were dried and had red skin along with lots of the off white bumps on them and they ranged in size from 2-2.5" with one orangish one being 3" daimeter. The were whole easily identifyable not broken up. I realize the effects may vary from one to another due to the time of picking.
The mushroom is pleasant aside from the foreign/new nauseating taste only during ngestion, which I am getting use to over time, much like with cannabis use was for me at frirst (well most kinds of schwag I still avoid becasue they make me puke which I altogether avoid now) I just stick with some finer self grown stuff now.
OK, so forgive me if I seem overly cautious about the preparation, but I read lots of info about the strict adherence to heating them (in water) for best results, maybe I WOULD get more skull fucked if I just ate the dried AM as is, but I revere this mushroom with more respect than psylocybin, and want to take it easier to get to know this mushroom, which so far has not done me wrong.
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TheGreatEscape
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There's a feelin' I get when I look to the west, and my sprirt is crying for bin laden. I feel good, the soma has been reached?!
just ate another 1/2 tsp ra DRIED AMANITA MUSCARIA prettey cool insights!
not drinkin drano, but am drinkin heieken!
just ate another 1/2 tsp ra DRIED AMANITA MUSCARIA prettey cool insights!
not drinkin drano, but am drinkin heieken!
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