AHHH! Plz Help me save my ladys.

[Green Tucan]

OK well before my ladies had a ph problem and I am pretty sure I got that out of the way because my run off is reading in the correct ranges now. Anyways I switched my fertilizer to Earth Juice and this is when these new problems came about the same time i started using this new fertilizer. I cant really figure out whats wrong with em. I did nottice my water drops from 7.2 to 3.0 after the fertilizer is added and which means I have to add 2 n a half tbsp of ph up per 2 gallons to get the solution back in the correct range for soilless growing. Can too much ph up cause some of my problems? Please look at these pics and help me as best you can. Thanks for reading. I would appreciate all the help I can get. Look at my leaves in these pics and tell me what u see and how do i fix em. Plz (Also heres what i feed em the past 2 times... 2 weeks ago ... 2tbsp bloom/grow, 2 tsp microblast ,2 tbsp catalyst for every 2 gallons of water with 2 1/2 tbsp of ph up to correct the ph and then last fertilize i gave em 2 tbsp grow/bloom, 2 tsp catalyst and the 2 1/2 tbsp of ph up to balance ph and these are all earth juice nutrients)

 

[MynameStitch]

I think you may have the lights to low dude; it's only affecting the upper part of the plant ? In one of the pics it looks like you have some light bleaching....... but you also look like you are feeding to much......

What lighting are you running and how close is it... what temps?
That is not your only problem though.. how often are you feeding your plants?

Yes ph can do all kinds of things; but it does not affect only the top part of a plant it affects a range anywhere from lower to mid to the entire plant.. depends on the severity and the cause of the ph issues.

I would also not be adding that much nitrogen; 1 tsp per gallon is fine. To much slows down flowering and causes stretching in flowering.

You do not need to use the catalyst with all that food...... you are doubling up with using so many kinds of nutrients.

all you need is the grow bloom and microblast. BUT the microblast does not have calcium in it.

In the first pic you posted; that plant is deficient in something possibly or it may be the lighting...; I can;t tell because the pic is not close up enough; but
Have you checked the run off after watering your plants with just plain water? The tops look lighter in the veins.....
The water that comes from the bottom of the plant after watering?
Your plants ph may be off not allowing it to absorb some micronutrients that is in there

 

[Core]

to much of something...of that im quite shure

 

[MynameStitch]

Ya, I will agree there; his feeding is quite high.......
Seems like with the info he gave he is feeding them every week 2 tablespoons of grow and bloom along with catalyst and microblast

way to much imo.... got a buildup going I say

 

[Green Tucan]

so can ph up burn plants? should i flush? what should i do? my ph runs off ok... my temps get 76 most of time but sometiems when ac messes up it can hit 90 but not for 2 long.

 

[MynameStitch]

No, you are just using to much nutrients I think....

how often are you feeding your plants?

WHat is your ph run off?

How close are your lights and what wattage?

 

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[MynameStitch]

lol, ya I know he is in flowering....... I see the pics

 

[Green Tucan]

I feed once a week but 1 tbsp per gallon of bloom/grow and 1 tsp of micro/catalyst when needed. My ph run off is in the 6 - 6.3 range so that seems to be ok. Keep in mind Im growing in soilless NOT soil. My lights are about 16 inches away from tops and I have 1 400 watt hps and 1 400 watt mh which means 800 watts i guess. My temps never go above 80 and are at 74-77 most of the time but some times it will hit 90 for about 30 mins or so if my a/c messes up. I personaly think its too much ph up because in order to fix my ph with the nutriets in it when I fertilize I have to add 2 1/2 tbsp of it per 2 gallons of water when it normally takes 4 tbsp for 40 gallons of water with out nutrients.

 

[10k]

Anyways I switched my fertilizer to Earth Juice and this is when these new problems came about the same time i started using this new fertilizer. I cant really figure out whats wrong with em. I did nottice my water drops from 7.2 to 3.0 after the fertilizer is added and which means I have to add 2 n a half tbsp of ph up per 2 gallons to get the solution back in the correct range for soilless growing. Can too much ph up cause some of my problems?

I see your problem, and it's sticking out like a sore thumb. You are poisoning the plants.
First clue is that your problems started happening when you switched to earth juice.
You've been mixing the earth juice, testing pH and adjusting it immediatly with massive amounts of Ph up.

Theres a couple things very wrong with doing earth juice that way...
#1 First of all, whenever using an organic poop soup like earth juice, it MUST first be circulated & aerated for at least 24 hours before you go near it with your pH meter. Earth juice and other organic poop soups need this 24 hours of circulating to break down the elements and become more pH stable. Circulating the mixed earth juice is a MANDATORY (must do) step, and you WILL find out that it causes that horribly low pH to raise nicely after its been aerated a good 24 to 36 hours.

#2 You added a large dose of pH up to your uncirculated poo soup. This is a major no no. Whenever a person adds pH adjusting chems, especially pH up, it is VERY important to dilute the pH adjuster significantly in water before it is added to the mixed ferts. Failing to do so, especially with pH up (or said another way adding it as a concentrate) can, will and does cause K and other key elements to precipitate out of the mixed solution, which results in lockups def's and tox's.

So the point is...
You need to circulate and aerate your mixed earth juice products for at least 24 hours before you do any pH adjusting, preferrably in a mixing drum or large clean plastic garbage can with a good strong air pump and/or a cuiculating water pump such as a fishtank powerhead. This aeration is key to breaking down the organics into a plant useable form, which will riase the pH of said poop soup all by itself in the process.

Never add pH adjusters in their concentrated form to any mixed nute solution.

These are well known and published (GrowFaq) facts about using earth juice.
Please follow these guidelines and your plants will thank you for it.

hth,
10k

 

[Big Brother]

PLant Problem

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The plants look like a MG problem, the yellowing and curling of leaves, perhaps going to micro nutrient solution, this should resolve the problem my friend...

 

[Green Tucan]

so would a flush help my plants? then i do my nutrients more correctly next time? and the aeration and circulation of the earth juice solution will raise the ph up enough or just enough to the point to were i dont use exessive amounts of ph up? ( my ph up is a liquid 30%...) and you said never add ph adjusters in their concentrated form to nutrient solutions but is this liquid the concentrated form or do you mean the dry ph up power or do you mean i have to mix this ph up liquid to water first and then the nutrient solution... sorry got lil confused on that..