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Afropips Nigerian

Stonecutter

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I recently grew out some Nigerian seeds from Afropips that I'd had in the freezer for a few years. They were quite old when I got them.
 

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Out of 10 seeds, only 5 germinated. They were fairly old when I got them. From what I remember, they were the last of some old stock after Afropips had stopped producing.
 

Stonecutter

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Those five all turned out to be females, or so I thought....

This variety seems to have a strong hermaphrodite tendency. After the start of 12 hours, it soon became apparent that two of the plants were fully hermaphrodite - both male and female flowers in equal numbers. These were disposed of.
 

PerroVerde

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Ive had similar results with his gear, but its to be expected with landrace seeds. Its up to us to work them , I would keep them and see if you can work the line to be better.
 
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How are the other 3 ? There could be some interesting plants you have.
 

Stonecutter

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Thanks for the comments...

As far as I know, Afropips collected varieties then developed/inbred them before making seeds, but I have no details. All I mean is that these are not 'first generation' but have been selected, so should be less hermaphroditic than 'wild' grown plants.

Tangwena - I am growing flowers for personal smoke primarily, so having seeds in my buds is a pain.

Troutman - no real plan other than to give these a try before they get too old. One of my favourite crosses is a Nigerian x skunk - as far as I know. Might make some seeds, but I would need to make some STS. Yes, I do have other varieties... more than I will ever have time to grow...

Skunkfunk - I'm just getting to that.
 

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The remaining three grew fairly similarly - lots of stretch, small buds that were reasonably dense. I was surprised at the fruity/bubblegum smells during flowering.

These were grown under a 250W LED in a quite small cabinet, so are manageable.
 

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In the end I harvested three plants, after about 10 weeks of flowering at 11 hours on.

The buds had a fruity/earthy type smell, with a hint of ethanol. The taste was similar.

The high is pleasant and relaxing, quite up but with some 'body' not just 'in the head'. I found it to be a good if you aren't trying to get things done, as the high is quite unfocussed and has a body-relaxing element. It's not an 'electric' jumpy high, but moderately potent. All three were fairly similar. Quite good resin coverage, and a fairly good yield, relatively, of quite dense buds.
 

funkyhorse

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It looks and sounds very similar to the repro I grew from DCC
Like Tangwena, I dont think if you find a few seed in your buds it will diminish their quality, the opposite. You have a more resinous bud
Back in the 20th century ganja was always seeded and the best was lightly seeded

What you call body, I call down. I never liked ganja with down
After 6 months cure in the vaccuum jar and after I was running out of the best of my stash, I checked it again and it surprised me because it improved the high. It still had down and still was unfocussed but the high was more potent and this is not happening with every strain

I grew Tribal Vision from Afropips as well. And half pack was intersex. I doubt Afropips was breeding intersex out.
 

Tangwena

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It looks and sounds very similar to the repro I grew from DCC
Like Tangwena, I dont think if you find a few seed in your buds it will diminish their quality, the opposite. You have a more resinous bud
Back in the 20th century ganja was always seeded and the best was lightly seeded

What you call body, I call down. I never liked ganja with down
After 6 months cure in the vaccuum jar and after I was running out of the best of my stash, I checked it again and it surprised me because it improved the high. It still had down and still was unfocussed but the high was more potent and this is not happening with every strain

I grew Tribal Vision from Afropips as well. And half pack was intersex. I doubt Afropips was breeding intersex out.

I never kill hermies they keep the diversity plus the seeds are usually feminized I have some Ghana I'm growing for seeds and late in flower a few bananas are appearing but too late to make seeds.
The buds were all ready polinated with 3 males I got 4 males and 2 females lucky both were slightly different in structure and smell.
I will give the de seeded buds a good cure before trying them cant wait.
I took 2 pop corn buds to check the seeds and they looked ready the buds can go a bit longer hermies and all ha ha.

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funkyhorse

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Gday Tangwena
I had bad luck with my ghanaians
My pack of Ghana didnt sprout same as my 40 seeds of Jahwis Joy from year 2006
I sprouted all the africans I had. I had a little better luck with Durban and have 4 little plants
And I have like 6 out of 21 Zamal landrace hybrid called Mango Pepper and 1 Mangu karut. I have another Mangu karot fighting for life, no vigour at all, seeds have not been stored or preserved well in many places, all stuff from different sources. It is a lottery
I was very surprised with my Swazi Skunk. I like it! I didnt expect it, it was half pack hermies and a lot of mould problems, specially in the winter grow
Nonetheless, the ones that more or less managed to make it were very resinous and very interesting high. It certainly has character

These are my senegalese. It is impressive. From non vigorous mother plants I am getting monsters
On the left Senegal Haze x MadMac Ohz and right is Senegal JGL x MadMac Ohz both in 3,5 liter pots and well over 2 meters high, crazy. They are grown straight 11/13 from seed. My first Senegal Haze girl made a lot of bananas but the smell is very impressive, same like mom, and just after a couple of weeks cure has a high. I will run her outdoors because I want to see if she makes same bananas outdoor too
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Senegal JGL x Ohz, day 79 after shown first pistils, this is how I count when grown 11/13 from seed, she doesnt care at all about white flies or red mites
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I harvested today this Wonder Woman Seedsman Skunkman Range x MadMac Ohz girl after she showed me her true self, day 86 after first pistil shown
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I found a few buds like this, would you throw it to the garbage/compost because of a few bananas?
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The best genetics I am trying are all LGBT, I am sure many excellent plants that should be part of the sativa breeding pool with are being thrown to the garbage because of sexual issues. I only care for the quality of the high. A few bananas at the end of flowering should not be an excuse to cull a good quality trippy plant. If it is not trippy, then cull
 

Tangwena

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Gday Tangwena
I had bad luck with my ghanaians
My pack of Ghana didnt sprout same as my 40 seeds of Jahwis Joy from year 2006
I sprouted all the africans I had. I had a little better luck with Durban and have 4 little plants
And I have like 6 out of 21 Zamal landrace hybrid called Mango Pepper and 1 Mangu karut. I have another Mangu karot fighting for life, no vigour at all, seeds have not been stored or preserved well in many places, all stuff from different sources. It is a lottery
I was very surprised with my Swazi Skunk. I like it! I didnt expect it, it was half pack hermies and a lot of mould problems, specially in the winter grow
Nonetheless, the ones that more or less managed to make it were very resinous and very interesting high. It certainly has character

These are my senegalese. It is impressive. From non vigorous mother plants I am getting monsters
On the left Senegal Haze x MadMac Ohz and right is Senegal JGL x MadMac Ohz both in 3,5 liter pots and well over 2 meters high, crazy. They are grown straight 11/13 from seed. My first Senegal Haze girl made a lot of bananas but the smell is very impressive, same like mom, and just after a couple of weeks cure has a high. I will run her outdoors because I want to see if she makes same bananas outdoor too

Senegal JGL x Ohz, day 79 after shown first pistils, this is how I count when grown 11/13 from seed, she doesnt care at all about white flies or red mites

I harvested today this Wonder Woman Seedsman Skunkman Range x MadMac Ohz girl after she showed me her true self, day 86 after first pistil shown

I found a few buds like this, would you throw it to the garbage/compost because of a few bananas?

The best genetics I am trying are all LGBT, I am sure many excellent plants that should be part of the sativa breeding pool with are being thrown to the garbage because of sexual issues. I only care for the quality of the high. A few bananas at the end of flowering should not be an excuse to cull a good quality trippy plant. If it is not trippy, then cull

Very cool brother I harvested half of the Ghana at 7 weeks flowering because the seeds were falling out I cant wait to try this unseeded now
I got two distinct phenos both worth growing.
Outside in the sun full term this would be good weed I am so happy I had 6 seeds now I have hundreds ha ha.

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Not bad for 7 weeks flowering full term these would be huge harvests.
I always keep the lady boys they are the best of both worlds in my book ha ha
 

Tangwena

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I am growing some Mulanje (Malawi) for seed at the moment they are 3 weeks old from seed.
I am hoping to harvest the seeds before August when I am going away for a month.
I find if they are seeded Sativas finish very quickly. I recently made some seeds from Aces Honduras x Panama as they no longer deliver to Australia where I live, they were finished at 8 weeks flowering seeded.
Of course if your after seedless buds they flower a lot longer due to them trying to get pollinated.
It also helps to reduce lights on time to 8 hrs 16hrs off which hurries them up as well.
 
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