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Afropips Malawi Gold alive and strong!

billyblog

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As with many famous strains grown across a region, the strain can vary from village to village. Different Malawi landrace types will finish at different times to one another and different latitudes will also produce different results within the same version of the strain....

Afropips version finishes around late May at around 28 degrees South but I've seen some go through well into June when the weather permitted.

Ace Seeds have a version that finishes around late April to early May here.

African Seeds used to have a version that ran a tad later than ACE's version but they're now defunct, unfortunately.

Generally, she tends to be a fairly late finisher, however, I can't speak for Bodhi Seeds version.

best,
billy
 
Thanks for the info. Holy smokes version is probably the most pure version as the flowering times go as far as 19 weeks some say. Bodhi's descriptions say originally from african seeds for the ethiopian and malawi.

many thanks
 

Mustafunk

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It's amazing that someone preserved this rare genetics. I've seen nice pictures from Holy Smokes line too, 19 weeks sound mad!

PS: it will be awesome if someone can move this to the landraces subforum where it can be easily found! ;)
 

guineapig

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Just in case people don't remember Afropips Seeds, this was a seed company that
specialized in collecting and preserving the pure landrace seeds that still exist in
different regions of the African continent.

I wish I could remember all of the different strains, but there was Malawi Gold,
Zambian Copper, Ethiopian Highland, Zamal, Congolese, Nigerian, and a few others.
Does anyone have an old Afropips catalogue that describes the strains? Maybe
that data is still stored here in honor of the Afropips history and legacy? I'll take
a look in the archives and see what I can find.

:ying: kind regards from guineapig :ying:
 

Mustafunk

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I've seen so far Malawi, Nigerian, Ethiopian and Zambian from Afropips alive and well around the community. I don't think they used to carry Zamal, as far as I know. There is some info on seed finder database, listing all the strains they used to sell.
Cheers!
 

Adze

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Mustafunk,
You mentioned a "seed finder database" where might we find that? I am quite interested in African strains. Are there places where these Nigerian, Ethiopian, Zamal and Zambian seed can be acquired? Did you ever get any more information about "Seeds of Africa"? There is a site, which has Afro-pips seed descriptions still up. May not be the entire collection but I find it interesting.
Fairly easy link to find with a search.
 
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Madjag

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Hey Adze,

IC won't let that link be posted so you have to go to Google and put in these keywords:
"Seed finder database eu"
 

OLDproLg

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Luckily!

i have about 8 seeds left of afropips malawi gold!!!
Grew 2 i runted a 1 was a total HERM???
Sucked,the stem rub was AWESOME!!!
cant wait to see the others 1 day...
Got them from Weedworld mag when i did a 4 page spread in 06'......
Lg
 
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shokdee

Great thread everyone! I've got to read the whole thing again carefully, but so happy to see fans of the wonderful, unbeatable, smooth and golden Malawi herb.
 

onefinity

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Hey Billy,

I missed your blog last Fall and have been posting on Zandar's Malawi thread. I thought I'd jump in and share a bit about Malawi 99, a beautifual cross between Afropips Malawi Gold and Brothers Grimm Cinderella 99 (Cindy 99).

The Malawi Gold part of this hybrid is the exceptional Afropips version, a landrace that Jim selected as tops for its pure African Sativa expressions.....that clear, motivating high. The Brothers Grimm side is a cross of Sensi Seeds Jack Herrer x Shiva Skunk.....a powerful combo that exhibits Skunk#1, NL5, and Haze attributes.

I love Sat highs that are clean and up and give me mental clarity and an energizing lift. The small amount of Indica in M99 is masked by the wonderful synergy between the 50% Malawi Gold meets Skunk #1 elements of Mexican and Colombian Sativa.

M99 colas were extremely loose at first, with massive pistil production:
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M99 hitting the roof....had to be moved outside to finish in pure sunlight.....in early November.
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M99 at far right in the jungle:
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This herb smokes better than almost any Sativa I've had the pleasure to find over the years. It's subjective I know, however at this point in my life I want clarity and energy to follow a few puffs off a nice fat joint. I don't want to tumble downs stairs, crash on the couch, or stare into space numbed by weed that puts me down; great cannabis fun for blowing people's minds, but not the herbal advancement that I care about now.

Something wonderful about this cross, and let me know if you've had similar results with your pure Malawi Gold...this smoke is totally creeper weed. Two tokes and wait a minute, I'm not really high. 10 minutes pass and I'm thinking, "I wish this was just a bit more potent". 20 minutes pass and I suddenly feel a wave of energy filling me. A full 45-60 minutes and I'm exactly where I want to be, in fact, I'm almost jittery with energy like I've drank too many coffees in a short period of time. This smoke comes on so slowly and seems to have no ceiling. Warning Will Robinson, warning!!

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I made the mistake, if you can call it that, of hitting it 4-5 times once when I thought the herb was not that strong. The almost psychedlic level I peaked on was motivating alright, but I lost my clarity for 2 or 3 hours. Pure dream and thought fest.

I've bottle-cured it now for 3 months and I agree that slow curing is worth every day it takes. Wow.

I'll be looking for any more seeds posted in the server fund, but honestly I've found my Holy Grail, or at least close enough to it. Next season I'm searching for a male among the seeds I have left in order to do a cross or two myself. Perhaps M99 x Colombian Gold....

Peace,
Madjag

M99 sounds like pure daydreaming smiling bliss! do you keep her alive as a clone now? Did you make a run of the M99 x Columbian Gold male this year?
 

Madjag

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The Secret Garden Experimental Station set off on a new course this year and the remaining M99 seeds are in refrigerated stasis. I received another amazing gift from a new friend, Magus Genetics' (Gerrit) original 2008 Masibindi (Warlock x Zamal A), and the focus is on crossing that strain with a few others on hand.

Zamal, like Malawi, is a tropical Sativa treat known for its psychedelic, uplifting, high. Though it's not a couchlock weapon like a strong Indica or a heavy Colombian, it can paralyze the smoker through sheer, energetic bandwith.Getting high and motivated is one thing, but take it a bit further and it's like you're putting out 100 amps at 12 volts. Deadly because it can fry anything it touches unless there is proper grounding and an adequate copper gauge for carrying that energy.

But I digress....the M99 is headed for a marriage with the Sativa-leaning side of Masibindi. The only seed of 5 Masibindi that popped this season was that much needed male indeed: skinny leaves, as bushy as any weed plant I've ever seen, prolific bud sites all over the branches, and a stank scent that smells like earthy carrot. This is the classic Zamal A that Gerrit used in his original cross with his award-winning Afghani Indica he named Warlock. The Zamal carrot pheno is the trippy one, too.

My thought is to cross the Malawi and the Zamal, two intense tropical Sativas. My path is slow, year-by-year, because I grow only organically outdoors. Perhaps this winter I'll experiment with clones and indoor crosses, even if only on a closet scale. I could definitely use the closet for breeding and refining. There's so much to learn....

I've saved a bit of Masibindi pollen and have also crossed it this last week with Gerrit's Magus Genetics 2005 Warlock x (Warlock x Zamal B), as well as the earliest flowering Critical Mass F2 from a bunch of another friend's seeds, and plan to wed that pollen with a Cabeza de Negro (Black Head) girl from the now defunct Brazilian Seeds company that was run by Luiz Fritzman as soon as she has more flowers. These Brazilian sativas are the last of all of my girls to flower and will definitely be seeing November in the garden before they're done.

I hope you're on the way to something rewarding yourself. Indoor or outdoor, beginning the art or old timer?

Peace,
MJ
 

onefinity

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The Secret Garden Experimental Station set off on a new course this year and the remaining M99 seeds are in refrigerated stasis. I received another amazing gift from a new friend, Magus Genetics' (Gerrit) original 2008 Masibindi (Warlock x Zamal A), and the focus is on crossing that strain with a few others on hand.

Zamal, like Malawi, is a tropical Sativa treat known for its psychedelic, uplifting, high. Though it's not a couchlock weapon like a strong Indica or a heavy Colombian, it can paralyze the smoker through sheer, energetic bandwith.Getting high and motivated is one thing, but take it a bit further and it's like you're putting out 100 amps at 12 volts. Deadly because it can fry anything it touches unless there is proper grounding and an adequate copper gauge for carrying that energy.

But I digress....the M99 is headed for a marriage with the Sativa-leaning side of Masibindi. The only seed of 5 Masibindi that popped this season was that much needed male indeed: skinny leaves, as bushy as any weed plant I've ever seen, prolific bud sites all over the branches, and a stank scent that smells like earthy carrot. This is the classic Zamal A that Gerrit used in his original cross with his award-winning Afghani Indica he named Warlock. The Zamal carrot pheno is the trippy one, too.

My thought is to cross the Malawi and the Zamal, two intense tropical Sativas. My path is slow, year-by-year, because I grow only organically outdoors. Perhaps this winter I'll experiment with clones and indoor crosses, even if only on a closet scale. I could definitely use the closet for breeding and refining. There's so much to learn....

I've saved a bit of Masibindi pollen and have also crossed it this last week with Gerrit's Magus Genetics 2005 Warlock x (Warlock x Zamal B), as well as the earliest flowering Critical Mass F2 from a bunch of another friend's seeds, and plan to wed that pollen with a Cabeza de Negro (Black Head) girl from the now defunct Brazilian Seeds company that was run by Luiz Fritzman as soon as she has more flowers. These Brazilian sativas are the last of all of my girls to flower and will definitely be seeing November in the garden before they're done.

I hope you're on the way to something rewarding yourself. Indoor or outdoor, beginning the art or old timer?

Peace,
MJ

Well at least you have the M99's at your disposal-- The Zamal sounds downright dangerous...In a good way. I learned this- that you can always take one hit at a time and end up where you want to be, but you can't un-take a toke once you've gone past the point of no return. I'm sure your cross will be stellar- giving you the best of everything- c99 bringing down the Malawi flower a bit and warlock giving the zamal some bud density, lower flower times and maybe tempering a bit of the edge. I've always thought Magus' genetics sounded interesting - the smaller companies putting more love into what they are doing (maybe I'm being to romantic about it, maybe not) I think they have been slept on by some of the community but I keep hearing good things.

I was just reading about the BSC genes today - too bad he shut it down his highland Oaxaca and Columbian gold looked amazing. I'd say I'm intermediate - done quite a few shows over the last 12 years, but my living situation right now doesn't allow for it. I, like you, really enjoy outdoor organic, and I'm just dreaming of the day when I can have a big back yard that looks (even remotely) like Kanga's...
I'd love to have a 'Jurassic park' of landrace sativas and do years of selection- a guy can dream right? Until then I'm living vicariously and getting ideas for what I'll start with
 

idiit

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got a few "seeds of africa" malawi seedlings going now and ^ this (billyblog's pic.) is what they look like. i also got in their swazi gold, zamal reunion, mozambique, durban magic and transkei. the zamal seeds look like a hybrid; too big compared to the tiny zamalish seeds i selfed out of my zamal dom zamaldelica pheno. i haven't got room to run the zamal seeds yet.

on ace's gt and malawi, the meao thai looks to be pretty recessive in the gt's. i've grown out one pack of destroyer looking for a red haired mex. pheno and the mt looked to be very recessive in this pack ( destroyer is genetically 1/2 mt) but i did find one nice pheno that looks like mex. dominate from what i can tell. the best of ace's malawi is what dubi calls the "killer mom" that is a frosty girl. i've been talking with one experienced grower that says his frosty malawi clone is the frostiest plant he has ever experienced. dubi says this pheno is incredible in testing for cannabanoid/thc/thcv levels. my 2011 gt was awesome and i suspect it was a good balance between the killer mum malawi pheno with strong mt influence. my 2012 gt was almost totally malawi dom and very narcotic in effects. the zamalish pheno out of zamaldelica looks to be pretty dominate in crosses i've made.
 

HidingInTheHaze

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Has anybody tried growing these yet?

I just took my pack out of the fridge to germ some. I took a closer look and noticed 4 out of my 11 seeds were greenish.

I tried germing 2 of the green ones to no avail. Just wondering if anyone else got greenish seeds and if they germed before I try to start my other 2 green ones.

I might just cut to the chase and start some brown ones.

If anyone has grown these out, how'd they do? how long did theytake to flower for indoors?
 

Madjag

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"Has anybody tried growing these yet?"

What are these?

African Seeds Malawi? ACE Zamaldelica? Afropips M99?
 

HidingInTheHaze

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African Seeds Malawi? ACE Zamaldelica? Afropips M99?

Well considering we are in the "Afropips Malawi Gold Alive And Strong" thread that was made to discuss Af Pips Mal Gold F2's I am talking about Billyblogs Afropips Malawi Gold F2's that this thread was created for before some ppl took it off topic :)
 
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