Advice on Hazes please

[Prest1]

Hello all, hope everyone is well.

I have some Oldtimers Haze, Purple Haze and Purple Haze x Thai and I would appreciate some advice on my plans for these seeds. I plan to flower them indoors and I know that compared to other shorter flowering strains, the yield wont be amazing, but I need something with that hazey zing.

I plan to germinate them and then veg them under T5 lighting, they should have at least 10 weeks veg time in there.

Once the females have been identified, I shall then take several clones (labelling each) from each of the female plants. Once these have rooted, I plan to flower pretty much instantly, but I am not sure on a few things.

My first thoughts are to put each clone straight into a 6.5L pot of soil and set the timer to 12/12. Do I need to give it some veg time, if so how much, and what lighting schedule?

Another option is to put the clones into 1L pots, then repot them after a week or so into 6.5L pots. Again though, what lighting schedule should I use? I heard some sativas grow roots all the way through the flowering process, is this true?

Towards the end of the flowering process, will I need to reduce the amount of light even more? I remember reading that some sativas needed to have the lighting hours reduced in order for them to finish flowering.

Many thanks in advance

On a side note, I have some Orient Express in week 3 of veg and they look lovely, nice and healthy with such pretty leaves. I have some other seed plants, but the Orient Express really stands out amongst the crowd. Believe me, its one crazy crowd too, I should have some good flavours coming to me shortly.

 

[g0vnaa]

I cant help you man, but I do hope you bring us lots of info and pics from your project :
Good luck

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Prest,

The OTH vegges very well under T5's. I would possibly consider keeping T5 along with HID light in flower, as these sativas really enjoy the blue spectrum.

I would start in a smaller pot and flower from clone immediately or within 1-2 weeks from planting as you suggested. These plants will continue to produce roots, so the smaller pot will help control height. The plants bend easily and can be scrogged or LST'd with great results. As the plant grows, you can up pot (maybe 4-6 weeks into flower). I think lowering the hours of light around week 10 would be good with continued lower increments through completion around week 16 or so. A rich well worked organic soil with light feedings as needed.

Best Luck. I look forward to seeing your results!

 

[Prest1]

Thanks people!

The blue T5s are in the veg room, so the mother plants should be happy enough. I only have HPS in the flower room. I plan on finding a keeper and then maybe just grow 3 crops a year of some funky haze. I haven't had a haze in ages.

Good that you confirmed what I thought about roots too. I always try and only give them food when they need it and I use stuff that is organic as it can be.

What's the lowest I can reduce the lighting to and by what increment?

 

[dubi]

Hello all, hope everyone is well.

I have some Oldtimers Haze, Purple Haze and Purple Haze x Thai and I would appreciate some advice on my plans for these seeds. I plan to flower them indoors and I know that compared to other shorter flowering strains, the yield wont be amazing, but I need something with that hazey zing.

I plan to germinate them and then veg them under T5 lighting, they should have at least 10 weeks veg time in there.

Once the females have been identified, I shall then take several clones (labelling each) from each of the female plants. Once these have rooted, I plan to flower pretty much instantly, but I am not sure on a few things.

My first thoughts are to put each clone straight into a 6.5L pot of soil and set the timer to 12/12. Do I need to give it some veg time, if so how much, and what lighting schedule?

Another option is to put the clones into 1L pots, then repot them after a week or so into 6.5L pots. Again though, what lighting schedule should I use? I heard some sativas grow roots all the way through the flowering process, is this true?

Towards the end of the flowering process, will I need to reduce the amount of light even more? I remember reading that some sativas needed to have the lighting hours reduced in order for them to finish flowering.

Many thanks in advance

On a side note, I have some Orient Express in week 3 of veg and they look lovely, nice and healthy with such pretty leaves. I have some other seed plants, but the Orient Express really stands out amongst the crowd. Believe me, its one crazy crowd too, I should have some good flavours coming to me shortly.

Hello Prest1,

Firstly thank you very much for your interest in our haze lines, i´m sure you will find great haze candidates for your breeding projects or personal use choosing from all this different haze lines.

Flowering times are similar for all of them (16-20 weeks) but Purple Haze Thai is more vigorous and better yielding, also stronger, slighty fast flowering than pure hazes. Oldtimer's Haze and Purple Haze are quite inbred but still quite vigorous cos they are tropical sativas.

If you plan to grow lot of clones in a crowded indoor garden then is better to start them with small pots (1-3 liters) for at least the first 6 weeks of flowering and after the stretching stops then re pot to bigger pots (5-7 liters), then the clones wont grow very wide with few but strong branches and well developed flowers.

If you prefer to grow bigger topped plants then be sure they dont produce excessive branching in the lower parts of the plants, is better to remove the smaller lower branches with less light intensity and leave only the most vigorous upper thick branches that receive more light.

Flowering is long and tropical sativas grown in pots usually lose health at the end of flowering so i like to repot them after the end of flowering stretching to bigger pots to maximize the health and nutrients in the new pot for the last and most important 3 months of flowering.

Tropical sativas clones and grows very well under fluoros but they need strong HPS lights to mature correctly indoors. Althought mature them outdoors in a warm climate is the way to achieve best results.

Indoors, start flowering with 12/12 photoperiod and then gradually decrease hours of light till 10:30 light/day or even 10/14 photoperiod.

Let us know if you have any doubt during the process Good luck!

PD: And im glad the Orient Express are doing fine, please keep us updated!

 

[Prest1]

I have been looking for something really different to smoke and I have always been interested in a long flowering sativa.

They will be grown in a semi crowded indoor grow and I plan to remove everything but the tops.

I will start them in small pots, before moving them into bigger pots after the stretch has stopped.

I remember reading that haze lines need a lot of light to finish correctly, so I shall have to see how they go. After I have done the initial run, I will have stronger lights to use for the second run.

Thanks for the seeds and being helpful. I shall post up pictures as and when, but its going to be a long project.

All of the ACE Seeds look good, but its this Orient Express that catches my eye every time I water. Plus the Nepalese Jam with the purple stems. A Panama has lovely structure too, just hoping she has pink bits.

 

[dubi]

It's a unique feeling to grow a tropical sativa, especially for the first time, very different if you are used to modern indica plants.

Tropical sativas and sativa hybrids are the best performing cannabis plants for outdoor growing in warm humid climates, indoors they are challenge for grower´s patience and skills. Anyway, we are here to help if you have any doubt.

Im glad the canna family is doing good!

 

[RedDirtWarrior]

Dubi, i have my ace tropical mix outdoors in native tropical soil directly in the ground, I am latitude 21N

I wonder if the sativas can utilize the nutrients in the heavy clay soil ( I broke it up so the roots can penetrate) and grow nice and big? time will tell!

modern day indoor indicas dont grow a bit in this soil, they stay small, mollycoddled with fancy nutrients!

I am testing them in variety of soil types,

1. east facing slope soils ( looks POOR)

2. top of ridge (grassland) soil... supposedly the most fertile... have not gotten results yet though

3. west facing slope soil (the best from what i've seen, 4ft GT's off little more than this soil!)

4. valley soil, this will be interesting.

 

[dubi]

Planted straight in soil is always the best

Heavy clay soil is not the best soil to grow cannabis but i have seen many great outdoor plants grown in this kind of soil, just with water and sun. In fact the soil in my area is a bit like yours, clay with high ph, plants need more time to establish a good root system, but if they are in a sunny place and you water them enough then they finally grow very vigorously. You can always improve the clay adding composted soil, worm casting, coco etc ... it will make things easier. Good luck!

 

[Prest1]

I am thinking about using some Guano to help with my grow, but I have never even seen inside a tub of it. Do I just do a layer on top of the pot? I can look at the instructions on the tub when I get some. Will these Hazes benefit greatly from them? Or should I stick to using the nutrients I am confident with?

 

[dubi]

Hello Prest,

Yes, we recommend to prepare a well balanced and rich organic soil mix for this kind of sativas and dont abuse too much of liquid fertilizers. Just place them in a sunny warm place with lots of water and good soil, they will work perfectly with almost no extra feeding.

Guano and worm casting mixed along with good compost and perlite is the best for this kind of sativas, just dont abuse of worm casting or other fertilizers high in Nitrogen. Just about 5-10 % in the mix will do.

Guano is not difficult to find, i usually like to mix it uniformly with the soil before repot rather than place it in the top of the pot, read carefully the intructions of your particular guano product to be sure of the correct dosage.

 

[Prest1]

Thanks for that, I shall look into what Guanos I can get my hands on.