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I was looking into these ferts and they seem like there quite promising. Has anyone used these? If so, what do you think would be the best combination for a soil grow? I'm mostly looking for a bloom formula. I ushally don't put ferts during the veg stage because my soil mixture is good enough where they don't need the nutes all that much.

I've used organics before and I just want to see how these chemical ferts work against the organics that I grow.

Any information would be great.
 

Tonyton

Active member
Hi there Kreat, I have been at A.N. for 3 years now and i found a big difference after i started to put all of the pieces together(nutrients that is). Working with other products with A.N. didn't do the trick, but as i added more of A.N. to it's specifics my yields doubled No Trippled in size,weight, smell and tricrome production. Right now I am useing A.N. organic and 2+ program to see any diff. I doudt it will be any other than i mite yield more than the other witch isn't a bad thing scence i can get an ounce more per plant.

Believe what i Tell you, I went from 60z's per 4 plants to 5.5oz's per plant and that was with all the nutrients in the 2+ program ONLY .
This pic is five plants in a C-13 under a 400 watt hps, the plants grew to be 6' . I only had 4 1/2 feet or so from the light. These plants grew like out of control monsters



I got 13.8 ounces from that grow, I should have trimmed the bottom leaves.Truly Amazing
I hope this helped you in your question :wave:
P.S.The plant that i got 6 ounces off of was BOG's Blue Moon Rocks. I only veg it for 40 days and flowered for 58 days and I had a grape smelling bazooka bubblegum all thru my house. Like i said befor Truly Amazing.
 

guineapig

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would love to see the results of the synthetic (sensipro, sensi 1 + 2) AN versus the organic (iguana juices) AN....i am always interested in the advanced nutrients crew but wonder most of the companies in the USA refuse to carry them and won't even order them if i ask them.....i guess it is only because they admit to testing their products using a certain species of plant....or maybe the conspiracy runs deeper.....

anyway, thanks for the pics and the AN info......holla back.....your friend guineapig
 
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wow

wow

tony those buds look friggin great!

i use their b-1 supplement, it's everything or nothing with AN, as mentioned above.

so you're a super-soil guy too ey?

i wouldn't use the complete AN line in a hot soil mix, i have a hard time feeding anything but kelp in such a soil indoors in veg...your mileage may vary..
i am str8 promix now because there are too many issues using a beefed up soil that you can't control once you've begun..

just a few tips for supersoil indoors,

use large containers
add tons of perlite (vermiculite is good but hold lots of water, can be detrimental if there's not enough perlite in the mix)
let your soil age a bit before use, turning a few times, till well before use
feed just kelp in veg (every other watering, if you must feed)
watch the pH
and make sure your mix is complete... and light.. greensand, kelp meal, guano(s), CASTINGS, beneficial mycos, these are all good things..

as far as flower fert. , i would try fox farm's products, tried and true for organic soil mixes.. AN is geared more towards hydro and/or soiless mixes ttbomk

hope this helps and sorry for the hijack, i know this isn't exactly the best answer to your question, and if anyone's experience contadicts this please do tell, i'd love to know what AN products you have used with success in super-soil as well.

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cj
 

Tonyton

Active member
This is what i put in my soil,





I had my soil for about 3 years. I started out with fox farm ocean forrest soil mix and have never changed my soil scense. I don't where about containers...i use beds


Like the one in this pic. I recondition my soil by adding the right mixture of amendments in it and A.N. dosen't hurt it, it help the soil by putting back anything that might be missing or unstable. I go organic so i never had to flush or had to worry about my bud tasting like chemicals or somthing. As for my seedlings


This was at 7 days.


I put them in the same soil mix as the other plants, Presto. I let my soil set for 8 weeks, 8 because that's around the time i would have a bed or tube opened and then it's ready for the next lot.
 
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Do you have any suggestions on which I would be better off getting? I'm splitting my grow with three people, so we want to get the most potent/highest yielding bud if possible. I'd love to know what system everyone uses.
 
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advanced sucks

they tell you to use too much its too expensive for restamped General Hydroponics.

the absolute easiest way to grow is with general hydro 3 part nutes, 8ml micro 16ml bloom in flower use a recirculating dwc setup.

i know of 13oz from 1 5 gal bucket using a romulan x santa marta hybrid with ONLY gh 3 part.

if you want to go organic use metanaturals 7ml cal 9ml base 12ml bloom during flower amend with 50% concentration Companion 2-3-2 and keep it bubbling

it should go without mention that you should keep your water @ 68dF

also, 3 people is 66% more chance of someone talking than if you were to do this by yourself

maybe it would be best to wait until you could afford it all yourself. security is worth more than any nug.
 

Tonyton

Active member
i
know of 13oz from 1 5 gal bucket using a romulan x santa marta hybrid with
ONLY gh 3 part.
That's nice Danimal, but kreat ask about a good organic soil grow that will get him good yeilds. I'm not here to debate about witch is better (Soil or HYDRO) i'm here just giving him my expertise in what I do. The way I start out is I use the nutrient canculator chart the one on the web site, I pick a feeding( Light, Medium light or medium) I don't have to go heavy because i base my feeding with a five gallon bucket and the beds that i designed. With all the nutrients at hand I can get three 8 week grows with the right combo( as fare as the size of the bottle, 1 liter or 4 liters) of nuts. I don't need the grow formula because my soil is mixed just right for every time I transplant, the soil takes care of them. I water them with Wal-mart's .58 scent a gallon spring water. I use A.N.2+ program and organic an nether one needs the grow formula for flowering. I get my nuts atamericangardensupply and they are running a 25% off sale going on as we type. Everything isn't for every body. I found what I was best at and stuck with it.
 

m.steelers

Enlightened
Veteran
More results from AN Iguana Juice, Big Bud, Carbo Load, Tarantula and Piranha. A smart shopper can get AN for a reasonable price, try ebay. I disagree with anyone that says AN is bullshit. You can't argue with this.




















 
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WOW those buds are amazing! I def need to go and buy some AN if thats the product u got from them, they keep impressing me more and more.

I was thinking of making one DWC bucket to try and see if I can do ti without messing up, but like some have said, there are AN product that you just put in , mix and thats it! its adjusts the PH, and takes care of everything for you. If this is the case maybe i'll just build some DWC buckets for my next grow.

It will be hard to change my grow now since they've been in soil, but I'd like to learn how to do hydro ponics, I was thinking possibly 1 DWC bucket like a large rubbermaid box or doing them separate in 5 gal buckets. Still not sure yet everyone says to do the 5 gal bucket system, but we'll see when the time comes!!
 
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DrLongbottom

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Hey Kreat, A.N. has some great stuff and like others have said , the more parts of their feed program you have the better you will do It can be a bit pricey to start but some of the items go a long way. I especially like the big bud powder and the overdrive....it reallly does kick them buds in high gear.
 
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I just used their nutrient calc and this what It came up with tell me if you think these 4 would be good. I picked the Sensi 2 part, with high yield formula - medium feeding:

Sensi Bloom Part 1 & 2
Voodoo Juice and
Big Bud

Think anything else would be in order?
 
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hey man all i got to say is AN is the fucking bomb...the growth rates, budset and bud formation are just flat out better than anything else...my first grow last year was with a 430W light, 8 plants in DWC and i got 12 ozs...and that was with root rot because my dumb ass didn't know what i was doing...i tried some other stuff, basically foxfarm as well as a guano grow and it just can't compare...i would also recommend the sensizym, b-52, and bud blood...the first two will just help the plants process nutes faster and keep everything available to the plant..the bud blood is for faster budset...right now i use AN with my sunshine mix and its great...i would recommend going full strength with the additives but taking it easy on the nutes, they are really strong and i'd start out at half strength and work ur way up because some strains i've had the AN just torch them...
 

m.steelers

Enlightened
Veteran
Kreat - I'm not saying you cant get simliar results from other products, these are just one man's experience. Props to Sensi and BOG for the genetics too.

I like their organic line in pro mix, with the synthetic additives. I think it's good to give them a taste of chems while on the organics. I've never used any of their synthetic base line like the Sensi A+B or anything.... only the iguana juices. They are great.

Here's my regimen:

Pro Mix
Final solution always ph'd to 6

Veg - Iguana Juice Grow, Tarantula, Piranha

Bloom Week 1 - Tarantula, Piranha, Fox Farm Big Bloom- large dose (this is where I would do the bud blood instead this time), Carbo Load
Wk 2 - Iguana Juice Bloom, Big Bud, Tarantula, Piranha, Carbo Load
3 - IGB, Big Bud, Carbo Load
4 - IGB, Big Bud, Carbo Load
5 - IGB, Big Bud, Carbo Load
6 - IGB, Big Bud, Carbo Load
7 - Fox Farm Big Bloom (pure organic and virtually no N), Carbo Load
8 - H20
9 - H20

Depending on the flowering duration, I adjust this regimen. This is based on a 60 day average more or less.

Phat Daddy - I have some Bud blood but havent used it yet. I think I might try it on this grow, it was free ya know. Do you give the recommended dose on that? I had read it was pretty strong, some folks were saying it burned their plants.

mS
 
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GreatLakes THC

an Arthur P. Jacobs production
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Kreat. If you're going to use Voodoo Juice or Pirahna you're going to want to add Carboload.

I use advanced.

GreatLakes THC
 
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What strain you find the best yielder from what are you using?


Take care, Agnes
 
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hey m.- i was kind of thinking that myself after i mixed it up and fed them but i don't think its a big deal if the plants are big enough...it comes down to about 1/2 tbsp for every 5 gallons of solution for me which i think should be ok...i will let u know how they look when i check them tomorrow...

about the carboload, i'm going to go with molasses or aunt jamima syrup, i don't think its worth paying up for what is basically sugar solution....
 
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Is that true about the molassis? I havn't tried any of the nutes yet but I plan on buying some soon for my indoor grow since I want to get the most from my plants. I think I have an idea on what I'm going to be doing nutriet wise. Thanks for the hlep everyone,
 

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