ACE indoor suggestions?

[Koondense]

Hi Ace seeds growers and fans,

I'm gonna start an indoor tent soon and I'm looking for a strain for me.
My requirements are:

3-4wks veg - up to 10wks flo max (full cycle 13wks max!)
low smell in flower!
good-very good yield
zero-low couchlock

Area will be a bit smaller than 1m^2 with home made leds, 6-9 plants SOG.

I was thinking of Zamal Hash and PCK x Malawi but I fear they stink a lot
Anyway, any feedback from your indoor experience will be very helpful to me, total indoor noob.

Thanks in advance and have a great day!

Cheers

 

[MadMac]

Malawi is the way to go...

Malawi is the way to go...

high Koondense,
well i can recommend Malawi... the early one from Breeders pack.
Like no odor, super potent, big bud's, lot's of sugar and great for SOG.
Best start from clone and after rooting go direct 12/12 and your' done in 9-10 weeks.
I generally would recommend a fast sativa pheno... because of power, odor and no couch lock ;-)
M.

 

[konopenko]

Great news bro! My next order will be Golden Tiger and Bubba Kush/Hashplant, but I think some Orient Express or some Panama would suit you good. How many Watts in flower?

 

[Koondense]

Thanks MadMac,
I'm running from seed, no clones for me. So fast maturation and mostly sativa is what I seek for.
Maybe BangiHaze or one of latest fems like pck x oe but it's not so sati dom.
Any other suggestion?

Best vibes

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Hi kono, planning on 300w of cree cobs.
Panama x malawi sounds good to me.

 

[orfeas]

Hey Koon mate!
Malawi x PCK is definitely very odour stealthy. I'm nearing harvest(most trichomes cloudy) and the smell is so slight and delicate...but indoors there's gonna be some smell whatsoever...so if you have smell issues, you'll probably have to resort to some kind of filter..

Wish you luck!

Orfeas

 

[MadMac]

Thanks MadMac,
I'm running from seed, no clones for me. So fast maturation and mostly sativa is what I seek for.
Maybe BangiHaze or one of latest fems like pck x oe but it's not so sati dom.
Any other suggestion?

Malawi 12/12 direct from seed.
but well maybe Dubi jumps in and can help out...
M.

 

[Koondense]

@orfeas
Good info on low smell, thank you. How is it compared to Zamal Hash?
Of course I'll get a carbon filter, I was just concerned in general smells because I don't want to get unnecessary attention during growing - opening the tent and so on.
Growing outdoors is a good reference for smell, some strains can be smelled from a big distance, others can't be smelled until touched. I prefer the second ones

@MadMac
It's an option to go 12/12 of course, could be a great learning opportunity. Maybe with 6-9 plants the grow space will be filled good after two months. I have a very bad idea on what to expect, a good yield is pretty important.

I'm also thinking of the Ace Mix fem, they come at good price and can be a nice variation.


Dubi, you have any good yielding strains you want to test? Just asking

 

[jay sus]

malawi,panama,golden tiger,congo are very good indoors. all hybrids and indicas no doubt too. with hazes you might want to consider are they exactly what you want to do indoors. but malawi is particulary interesting,super resinous, and density of its buds is phenomenal, for sativa it´s exceptional. unbelievable!

 

[Cannabisso]

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[Koondense]

@Cannabisso
Yes BangiHaze makes a lot sense to me also, flowering time is acceptable and the stated yield is average/high.
Somehow I wish to have a run of Zamal Hash because it's maybe the last packs available ever, so it will be gone for a while.

Looking at the Ace site I seen only ZH, Malawi and OrientExpress would fit as high yielders with not so long flowering, maybe Malawi from 12/12 as it says 10-13 weeks. But if I understand correct, a plant will start flowering only when reached sex maturity which can be 2-5 weeks of 12/12, depending on strain. Meaning I should add this time to the flowering time and end with 13-16 weeks for Malawi, which is too long I think.

The more I think, the more I'm confused Typical of noobs

Dubi help please.

 

[orfeas]

Oh, man, it isn't just being noob what makes things go wild...quite a few factors to consider...Take Bangi Haze for instance,it may fit Cannabisso's description...Yet to my own nose that might as well be biased after so much sniffing(I mean grass) that sweet fruity fragrance can hardly belie the cannabis odour...
Anyway I'm sure you're gonna get there sooner or later...

They say our lives are but a bunch of incidents...

Enjoy the ride and make it an agreeable one, mate!

Orfeas

 

[Baron Greenback]

dubi says that Bangi Haze is very well suited to indoors, compact, vigourous in veg so the time you have for that should get you a decent size plant. They flower pretty quickly by the sounds of it too.
You could always buy a few of each type you fancy (Ace sells by the seed on their website) as there will be no issues whatsoever with germination.
A nice dilemma to have - you could just do what I'm doing and work your way through all of them

 

[Tangwena]

Hi Brother unless you go with clones like Mad Mac said I think its unrealistic to expect to get a good sativa in 10 weeks, IMO you should re think your schedule or you will not be happy with the result.
It takes time for sativas to mature enough that you can see their special effects.
Tangwena

 

[Dr.King]

I too would recommend either Malawi or Zamaldelica because you stated you only have 13 weeks max. Any Haze cross will usually take more then that even with 11/13. Malawi will finish in 11 weeks if done in 11/13 but most of what I ran took 14 weeks or more for good yield. Zamaldelica takes 11 weeks or so to flower with nice yield as well if 11/13.

Some people have had good luck with Bangi Haze. All 8 I did where not a very up high, more mellow with a mild mind expanding effect. Although I am looking forward to the new fem version Ace is going to release. The crew worked hard to get a nice up fem version of Bangi Haze out so no more hunting .

If you are looking for a cheap good led light already made with high watts go with Hydrogro from Ebay. 300 watt panels with new 5w chips for only 67 bucks. Insane Imo but they are top notch, great reviews on Amazon. Good luck man.

 

[Cannabisso]

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[2000pm]

While banghi definitely flowers quick for a great sativa it was undoubtably one of the stankiest plants I have ever grown, ever! Honestly one of the few cultivars where I could not take a full "whiff" because the rank dead animal, burnt rubber, chemical garlic scent was so rough and overwhelming on the senses, at least with my particular specimen.

There are enough reports stating similar experiences in the banghi threads where I would think elsewhere if odor was a concern.

I would however, look closely at the mexitza. What a great plant with a quick finish.

 

[Koondense]

@Tangwena
I agree, however I don't feel fit for the job of growing proper sativas like Zam, GT or Hazes, Thais and I know I can't expect hybrids to have the crazy sativa properties.
I would mostly like to avoid classic commercial seeds, instead of choosing classic NL, Critical or whatever I'd love to have a more exotic product leaning on the so called sativa side.
I was thinking of Cannabiogen also(caribe, sugarloaf), but Ace offer more fem varieties with what seem to be a bit shorter flowering times. Maybe it's not such a difference though.
Nothing crazy for the first time, I have VietnamBlack x Zamaldelica and Tikal x VBT but those are for a more experienced me in the future


So the 12/12 is kind of unrealistic because of the needed veg which at 12/12 tends to be more stretchy I guess. Can someone comment on this, if you have 12/12 from seed experience?
Then maybe it's not a bad idea to choose an indi dom strain like bubba hash or CY, just to experience a proper indica dom, go for 30-35 days of veg(last week reducing light 1h/day) and followed by 60-65 days of flower.
A classic approach with proven genetics.

This feels less exciting but I'm sure my first run will be exciting enough with any strain I choose.

Which option would you choose?

1. Indi dom/ max 35d veg/ 60d flo. 4 plants in 90x90cm (BubbaHash, maybe ChinaYunnan)

2. balanced hybrid/ max 30d veg/ 70d flo. 4 plants(ZamalHash, MalawiPCK, NepalJam, BangiHaze, OrientExpress)

3. sati dom/ 20-25d veg/ 70-80d flo/ 6 plants(Congo, Sugarloaf, Caribe, maybe Panama)

I'm leaning towards the 2nd and 3rd option but first seems the safest bet for yield.
Decisions, decisions...

 

[konopenko]

Im for option 2, cuz pure sativas could realy cause you some problems you should get similar yield with sativas or even more imo. Only problem is how will they grow under those led lamps..

 

[jay sus]

panama has some faster phenos, malawi is not that much slower in flowering. here are panama and malawi at 9 weeks under leds,so option 3 is valid indoors.

 

[dubi]

Hi Ace seeds growers and fans,

I'm gonna start an indoor tent soon and I'm looking for a strain for me.
My requirements are:

3-4wks veg - up to 10wks flo max (full cycle 13wks max!)
low smell in flower!
good-very good yield
zero-low couchlock

Area will be a bit smaller than 1m^2 with home made leds, 6-9 plants SOG.

I was thinking of Zamal Hash and PCK x Malawi but I fear they stink a lot
Anyway, any feedback from your indoor experience will be very helpful to me, total indoor noob.

Thanks in advance and have a great day!

Cheers

Hi Koondense,

Thanks for thinking in our genetics again for your next grow, much appreciated

Bangi Haze would a very good choice, it has been bred many generations to perform well indoors and can be grown easily indoors, doing small columnar plants, it also has that motivating (zero-low couchlock) you are looking for .... although its yield is average, and sometimes her smell is quite pungent as others commented here previously.

Congo would be a good alternative with congolese genetics too. It's also very friendly indoors, most of the times finishes in 10 weeks or just a few days more, has quite good yielding phenos and the aroma is moderate (not low but also not very pungent). And it has a positive, happy effect that i think you will love.

Green Panama line also has great uplifting effects, works great indoors although it could go up to 11-12 weeks to mature, the smell of the green pheno is not so strong like other Panama phenos, and the effect is quite up and high quality, it's also a very good yielder and needs little veg time.

Tikal also provides very nice funny trippy effects, and usually finishes in 70 days indoors. The yield is average, but has very low odor and effect and taste is great.

Honestly, my main recommendation would be the new Zamaldelica fem release, there are some fruity phenos that could have a bit strong smell, but you will love her quality: uplifting, positive, clear minded, sometimes very trippy, and zero or very little couchlock after the trip. The flowering time of this new fem version is more moderate than previous ones, and with a little lesser of veg time you have great chances to make the whole cycle in 13 weeks.

There are very high yielding Orient Express sativa phenos that are worth to consider too.

Hope it helps, let me know if you have any other doubt.

Kind regards!