ac ?

[boston]

first post and really loving the fourm

seams to be a lot more help here then on other fourms i visit




i have a buddy who set up is something like this in a garage

will he have any problems putting a window ac unit in wall and exhausting in garage

room is in a add on and there are 2 doors between grow room and main section of garage

crappy pic of said room

 

[Moppel]

hello,and welcome.....he should try to get exhausted air from ac out of the garage.....can he open a window in the garage?

 

[boston]

hello,and welcome.....he should try to get exhausted air from ac out of the garage.....can he open a window in the garage?

no windows and it may be a couple days between trips

it could be installed in wall of room going outside but odor could be a problem?

i guess more of a ? would a window unit take smell from room for all to smell

 

[clide]

depending on how into building you guys are, you might consider building an a/c box.

there are a few posts on ic about a/c boxes. but personally when i opened up my 5ton walmart window a/c i noticed that it didnt really function well and was quite inefficient in the way the air moved on the back half of the unit. the front part put out A LOT of air, but he back part didnt seem to have any air movement at all. the way its set up is that the front part the fan acts as a blower, which is much better in areas of low to no air flow. but the back half was just a fan which was meant to draw air from the top and side and put it out the back through a much larger radiator. this seemed very very odd to me.

i understand that the engineers were restricted with the size and shape of the unit because it had to fit in the window and be as cheap as possible to produce. i, however have some supplied to make it more efficient.

what i did was to take all the surplus and unneeded parts off. there are some plastic pieces which attempt to guide the air, even a few pieces of styrofoam, as if that would insulate anything!

then i unbolted the compressor and unscrewed the two radiators and removed them from the steel case. this is where ive stopped the project, and sadly i have no camera.

what i will do in the future is to bend the two radiators and compressors until they on either sides of the compressor. then i will build a box around either of the radiators, this is to mount a fan/blower to. ill also include the compressor in the hot sides box because it gives off head and noise.


this is just a starting point tho. its up to your imagination and situation to use this application. basically what it is tho is a truly separate a/c system from a simple window unit. also, this will increase the amount of cold you can add to the room because its much more efficient. realistically the cold side is limited only by the temperature of the hot radiator, so good air flow is essencial!

peace and pot

 

[boston]

depending on how into building you guys are, you might consider building an a/c box.

there are a few posts on ic about a/c boxes. but personally when i opened up my 5ton walmart window a/c i noticed that it didnt really function well and was quite inefficient in the way the air moved on the back half of the unit. the front part put out A LOT of air, but he back part didnt seem to have any air movement at all. the way its set up is that the front part the fan acts as a blower, which is much better in areas of low to no air flow. but the back half was just a fan which was meant to draw air from the top and side and put it out the back through a much larger radiator. this seemed very very odd to me.

i understand that the engineers were restricted with the size and shape of the unit because it had to fit in the window and be as cheap as possible to produce. i, however have some supplied to make it more efficient.

what i did was to take all the surplus and unneeded parts off. there are some plastic pieces which attempt to guide the air, even a few pieces of styrofoam, as if that would insulate anything!

then i unbolted the compressor and unscrewed the two radiators and removed them from the steel case. this is where ive stopped the project, and sadly i have no camera.

what i will do in the future is to bend the two radiators and compressors until they on either sides of the compressor. then i will build a box around either of the radiators, this is to mount a fan/blower to. ill also include the compressor in the hot sides box because it gives off head and noise.


this is just a starting point tho. its up to your imagination and situation to use this application. basically what it is tho is a truly separate a/c system from a simple window unit. also, this will increase the amount of cold you can add to the room because its much more efficient. realistically the cold side is limited only by the temperature of the hot radiator, so good air flow is essencial!

peace and pot

thinks for reply

i may end up building a box but do not want to at all
i will be posting pics of said room in the next couple days

it is nearly complete and is full so all work has to be done around 21 20"-30" plants not to mention way to many clones

also will a window ac unit affect my co2 ?

i am also looking at portable ac whith de huimdfiers option but i think my money would be wiser sopent on a seprate ac and dehumidfier

my co2/env controler will be here tuesday and i would love to be able to start bloom but i have got to get this room dial in and we have had crazy temp and thats not helping at all

 

[boston]

any more input

would like all i could get as i will be installing ac tomorro

 

[boston]

any more ideas

 

[clide]

thinks for reply

i may end up building a box but do not want to at all
i will be posting pics of said room in the next couple days

it is nearly complete and is full so all work has to be done around 21 20"-30" plants not to mention way to many clones

also will a window ac unit affect my co2 ?

i am also looking at portable ac whith de huimdfiers option but i think my money would be wiser sopent on a seprate ac and dehumidfier

my co2/env controler will be here tuesday and i would love to be able to start bloom but i have got to get this room dial in and we have had crazy temp and thats not helping at all

you can further increase your wondow units efficiency if you dont want to make a box. simply remove the top so that you can see the insides, now you dont have to remove the fan blade but you can if want. basically just stick in an ac inline fan. it will look like a 6" or 8" pc fan but will run on ac current. they generally are all round and have about 100 cfm. this will do a much much better job of pushing air through the hot radiator portion, and that will lead to lower temperatures.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

The AC unit exhausting into the garage is not so good an idea. Unless you can vent the air from the garage well, it will not work out good.

IF you can mount the back of the AC outside, then that is probably the way to go. Often times the AC will not have a complete seal between the sections, but it shouldn't mean that much air gets pulled from the grow to be exhausted, as long as there is no restrictions to the intake.

Clyde, I don't know how your AC unit is built, but some may have a separate fan for the hot coil side that will only run wide open when the compressor is running. The fan that is in there is plenty efficient enough to do the job, and I don't know that I would be recommending folks take out their fan and replace it with a PC fan. Just isn't productive.
I'm certain your unit works more efficiently than you think it does. See, the AC company already has it all figured out, and you are just now starting to figure.

 

[mountain kind]

you got a 60,000 btu window unit are you serious do you have a link to that or are you just joking?

 

[Guest 18340]

You could buy a split ac unit...

 

[boston]

The AC unit exhausting into the garage is not so good an idea. Unless you can vent the air from the garage well, it will not work out good.
.

by good
will a 6 " vortex hook to a old 6" heat stack?
or i also have a 10" exhaust that hooks to my wood work area?

IF you can mount the back of the AC outside, then that is probably the way to go. Often times the AC will not have a complete seal between the sections, but it shouldn't mean that much air gets pulled from the grow to be exhausted, as long as there is no restrictions to the intake..

mounting it outside
means explaining to the guy next door why ac in garage and then why it runs on 65-70 degree days.
he a good guy smokes and everything but need stealth for this.

i think i am gonna build it to exhaust into the garage
but leave the option to run a ac box like in your sig if somethings not going right.
but then i have pepole stoping by in summer when i work in garage and yard quite a bit and for sure someone gonna ask what the hells those duct go to

my one other option is building on back side where none could see and building ducting of some sort to grow room but then my closest possible run would be 12'
but could be hidden away from any vistor


i am gonna get pics up by end of day and better diagram
i am gonna give ths thred 1 more day to help along my way

You could buy a split ac unit...

explain
also if you are talking like central air i do not thank the would be real efficient in this stitation
i am off to recerch split ac

you can further increase your wondow units efficiency if you dont want to make a box. simply remove the top so that you can see the insides, now you dont have to remove the fan blade but you can if want. basically just stick in an ac inline fan. it will look like a 6" or 8" pc fan but will run on ac current. they generally are all round and have about 100 cfm. this will do a much much better job of pushing air through the hot radiator portion, and that will lead to lower temperatures.

i will let the ac worry about the inner workings of the ac unit and go buy a nice oversized unit at a retail big store and if somethings fucks up on it take it back

you got a 60,000 btu window unit are you serious do you have a link to that or are you just joking?

that would be nice

 

[boston]

http://cgi.ebay.com/9000-Ductless-M...ptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

likeing the look of a split unit
a bit more then i ever intending on spending but if it does what it supposed to
evlme2 if i could + rep you i would

 

[I N Hail]

Boston

If ur adding co2 ,you just need to control the temp's in the room .
No need to vent air in or out,Just seal that door good.

And a carbon filter is always a good ideal,

I N Hail

 

[boston]

Boston

If ur adding co2 ,you just need to control the temp's in the room .
No need to vent air in or out,Just seal that door good.

And a carbon filter is always a good ideal,

I N Hail

yes co2 added
and the problem i have is my humity sky rockets whith exhaust off so quick no point in even adding co2 yet

so i need dehumidfier and ac as when it was 70 out last week temps got into 90S whith exhaust was off
i do plan on allowing tep to reach 85 and humity to hit 55% but that will be max

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Yes, if you exhaust the air from the garage, that is an option.
Better to actually box around the hot side and vent it strait out with a good fan to help.

FWIW...one of my many motto's is...if people go, do not grow. (shrug)

 

[Guest 18340]

Myself and a friend are in the process of building an 8 x 5 room int the corner of my garage.
I ordered a split unit on friday, $1098 for a 9000btu, cool and heat, inverter, etc.
If you can afford one, go for it. If not, i would follow hoosierdaddys' advise, hes got a good ac thread somewhere in here.
I'll post a pic of the unit when i get it, hopefully by friday. Evl...