Absolute Amber from Banana Silver Ladyboys

[jump117]

An absolutely first class thread.....

Greetings to you, O Persephone, the daughter of Zeus, goddess of vegetation from Oz!

Thank You for that You have borne fruit of your sacred groves

stand at the extremity of the earth on the frontiers of the lower world

on the altar of Absolute Amber!

 

[Persephone]

...... Mr Jump, it's a pleasure to have brought the fruits of my Garden to the AA altar!

Grey Wolf....Thanks....much respect for your work!

P.

 

[uberman21]

 

[uberman21]

Winterized...Image stacked from 5 photos, taken w/ canon 50mm 3.5 macro lens and extension tube..enjoy!

 

[Bouldorado]

Does anyone here use a cooling bath to keep the flask/thermos cold?

I don't have a thermos, so I recently started doing this. I use a 500ml Erlenmeyer flask for my extraction, which is placed inside a larger, open topped container (about 1.5 times the bottom diameter of the flask). The flask (plant material inside) is pre-chilled in the freezer to ease thermal shock from the ice bath. I then pack dry ice around the flask, and pour high test alcohol over top. This creates a very cold slurry (don't have a thermometer, but prob pretty close to the sublimation point of dry ice; -78c). Pre-chilled butane is then sprayed into the flask, which is capped.

The entire contraption is placed inside a cooler and allowed to soak, stirred occasionally. Last extraction I did soaked for 3.5-4hrs, with zero butane evaporation until it hit the pan.

 

[hammalamma]

Does anyone here use a cooling bath to keep the flask/thermos cold?

I don't have a thermos, so I recently started doing this. I use a 500ml Erlenmeyer flask for my extraction, which is placed inside a larger, open topped container (about 1.5 times the bottom diameter of the flask). The flask (plant material inside) is pre-chilled in the freezer to ease thermal shock from the ice bath. I then pack dry ice around the flask, and pour high test alcohol over top. This creates a very cold slurry (don't have a thermometer, but prob pretty close to the sublimation point of dry ice; -78c). Pre-chilled butane is then sprayed into the flask, which is capped.


The entire contraption is placed inside a cooler and allowed to soak, stirred occasionally. Last extraction I did soaked for 3.5-4hrs, with zero butane evaporation until it hit the pan.

Sounds good to me , I'll have to try!

 

[Gray Wolf]

Does anyone here use a cooling bath to keep the flask/thermos cold?

I don't have a thermos, so I recently started doing this. I use a 500ml Erlenmeyer flask for my extraction, which is placed inside a larger, open topped container (about 1.5 times the bottom diameter of the flask). The flask (plant material inside) is pre-chilled in the freezer to ease thermal shock from the ice bath. I then pack dry ice around the flask, and pour high test alcohol over top. This creates a very cold slurry (don't have a thermometer, but prob pretty close to the sublimation point of dry ice; -78c). Pre-chilled butane is then sprayed into the flask, which is capped.

The entire contraption is placed inside a cooler and allowed to soak, stirred occasionally. Last extraction I did soaked for 3.5-4hrs, with zero butane evaporation until it hit the pan.

No, as I can pick up used stainless thermos at Goodwill for under $20, and there are never any additional operating costs, but your bath sounds like it should work well if you had alcohol and dry ice, but no thermos.

I'm thinking the test of the pudding, is its taste. How does it taste and how good is the product!

 

[jump117]

Hey Bouldorado!

It is also interesting to evaluate the speed and efficiency of extraction at this temperature.

Do you plan to do a second wash at a higher temperature?

 

[Bouldorado]

Hey Bouldorado!

It is also interesting to evaluate the speed and efficiency of extraction at this temperature.

Do you plan to do a second wash at a higher temperature?

I discarded the Kief I soaked, so unfortunately that's no longer possible. I returned about 1 g of oil from 3.5g put in. The product ( butane extracted only) has a gren tint and is slightly waxy looking, but vaped away very cleanly and had good flavor.

I recently acquired a decent amount of fresh-frozen trim that will allow me to experiment with soak times. I plan to soak 1 oz of trim for 1 hr, 1.5 hr, and 2.5 hr and see what I get back.

Do you think there's any disadvantage (ie, decreased yield) in having the ice bath so cold?

 

[jump117]

Hey Bouldorado, thank you for the report!

Do you think there's any disadvantage (ie, decreased yield) in having the ice bath so cold?

I think the main reason for a possible reduction in yield, may be inadequate duration of soaking.
The second possible reason, I see is not enough a regular mixing,
which is necessary in immobile system to refresh the saturated contact layer of solvent with the material,
and which is difficult to provide for hours of processing time.

Theoretically, the dynamics of the dissolution process is described
by an extremely complex physical-mathematical model and is far from linear.
Although, the main principle of the dissolution rate depends on temperature is well known - the colder it is, the slower.
As well when cooled to absolute zero (0K/-273C/-460F), the dissolution process stops completely.

Moreover, for different pairs of substance and the solvent, this dependence is also different.
What we successfully use, separating the long-molecular waxes during winterization in ethanol.
Therefore, at- 78С can be obtained quite unexpected results.

I think that for a reliable assessment of the completeness of extraction,
the residual cake should be subject to control washing in any standard technology,
for example such as ethanol at room temperature or warmed.
I used to wash decarboxylated cake in butane and found that after two hours of soaking, it remained 12,5%.
I have concluded that the efficiency of the two and a half hour soaking in -20C butane is 87.5%.

The experiments of butane in combination with dry ice, of course, are very interesting and I look forward to your results with anticipation.

But let me also a bit of criticism.
I think the very important advantage is simplicity and accessibility of the technology used.
From this viewpoint, the use of dry ice greatly complicates the process
because it is necessary to acquire, deliver and store that in general is rather cumbersome.
The increase in the required duration is also difficult to consider as advantage.

To me now it seems attractive speedup the process by little raising the temperature above -20C.

 

[midwestHIGHS]

Just turned 32g of some nasty army green bho filled to the gills with plant waxes into absolute amber! Hands down some of the worst material I've ever had the experience to extract from, it was so fine it was like a powder and more than likely a year or two old.

I'll probably decarboxylate all of it and mix with warm coconut oil untill its a homogeneous mixture, then make various extremly potent medibles!

absolutely a great thread, thanks jump!

 

[Roms]

It would be very nice a sticky for this thread, you are rockin' bro Big up'

 

[Gray Wolf]

One point of note!

While it is true that raw BHO oleoresins and concretes retain more terpenes, so as to have more floral flavor, vis a vis Absolutes, I can definitely taste the waxes in the unrefined material, and feel the coating action in my mouth and lungs.

Others in our group report the same experience.

 

[midwestHIGHS]

I couldn't agree more GW, me and my gf experience the same problem. Trim oils are the worst, my lungs feel so caked up from vaping it, even all flower runs give me this feeling, albiet it's much less than the trim oil though. I know alot of people say how could these plant waxes in bho be worse than smoking them in raw flowers. I feel the act of vaporizing concentrated plant waxes,lipids and fats in raw BHO is much different then smoking them in raw flowers. Yes, you are avoiding combustion, but these impurities are more concentrated in bho than raw flower and when vaporized can't be to gravy for your lungs, esspecially with long term use. I love the flavor from all nug run bho, but I don't like the coating feeling I get with most bho.
I feel really cold butane and freezing the packed tube has helped me avoid picking up large amounts of impurities.

 

[slimjoint]

Hey slimjoint ! 56 grams of budder .. I have not had experience with so many.

In my opinion, the solution with a concentration of 5.8% (= 3.5 g/60ml) or 17ml of ethanol per gram of resin is too thick and viscous for effective filtration.

When we talk about the evaporation of a thin layer, it is about the thickness of the layer of resin, not the solution.
Try to reduce the concentration, add a little more ethanol.
At the moment you plan to use 960ml it may be worth taking the risk of investing in another bottle.
This will reduce the thickness of the layer of resin on the evaporator and the product will be more optically clear.

Although your samples shown look great!

Hey jump I just wanted to let you know after making several batches that are as stable & clear as glass , i have been using aprox 50ml per 3.5 grams and wax's coagulate and filter out just fine, and the mixture of alchohal is never vicsous.
i also tried a higher solvent solution to the concrete and endproduct was same, the one with less solvent was ready quicker.
Hope all is well with you.

 

[hammalamma]

hehe hehe hehe

 

[synthacide]

Hey hammalamma, do you know anywhere in the bay to buy et0h?

 

[Gray Wolf]

Well looky here! Jumps Absolute Amber got stickied! Stellar job Jump!

 

[hammalamma]

Congratulations jump! Good shit buddy! I have directed at least 5 people to this thread already and I am sure there will be more.

 

[esbe]

checking in for the show! now i understand why people talk about this thread, great stuff!