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your correct why even make this post !
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are you growing this indoors? if so you know have to force the plant to flower via the photoperiod...
didn't you already make a thread about this plant once already... I thought it took 36 months to ripen and the high was the most trippy psychedelic ever?
that isnt kief, it is gross... eww
I would love to see some 36 month buds... so yeah, until then I guess? see ya in a few years.
didn't you already make a thread about this plant once already... I thought it took 36 months to ripen and the high was the most trippy psychedelic ever?
that isnt kief, it is gross... eww
I would love to see some 36 month buds... so yeah, until then I guess? see ya in a few years.
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I can only hope a skilled Lab can test this strain and learn more about it before it is to late ..the strain belongs in a research center where it can be studied ....
stay safe stay free .
stay safe stay free .
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who cares .your right latter ,I am going to find a better hobby...!
rough day...
rough day...
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I need some time off ...
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some times its better to leave them where you found them ..
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hello
we have been collecting data on the Abducted strain base .. we found something interesting
the Abducted strain base evolved in a rain forest it is a natural hydro base strain of evolution . the soil seedlings are 5-6 inches high , with a 9-10 inch tap root ,
the avg tap root ratio is 2 to 1
the Abducted seedling in hydro DWC is 7 inches high with a 22 inch tap root ..
the ratio is 3.1 to 1,
the tap root is more then 3 times the height of the plant it self,... not that impressive you say , it is for 10 days in hydro DWC....!
the tap root is growing more then 2 inches a day ...
this seedling had no roots sticking out of the basket 10 day ago. i might need a bigger DWC ...lol
from nothing to 22 inches long in 10 days
we have been collecting data on the Abducted strain base .. we found something interesting
the Abducted strain base evolved in a rain forest it is a natural hydro base strain of evolution . the soil seedlings are 5-6 inches high , with a 9-10 inch tap root ,
the avg tap root ratio is 2 to 1
the Abducted seedling in hydro DWC is 7 inches high with a 22 inch tap root ..
the ratio is 3.1 to 1,
the tap root is more then 3 times the height of the plant it self,... not that impressive you say , it is for 10 days in hydro DWC....!
the tap root is growing more then 2 inches a day ...
this seedling had no roots sticking out of the basket 10 day ago. i might need a bigger DWC ...lol
from nothing to 22 inches long in 10 days
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Abducted looks like modern hybride strain,
dont know what you got there but it looks so common on sight...
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good insight that might be why it was lost in the first place ...I have grown DWC in the past but this is the first time in more then 15 years . but its going to make a great DWC strain ..
I wont know what the flowers look like till I can get it to flower . I grew it for 6 months and 2 days before they died last time ..at this point I wish it was a modern strain base ,the test would be over already ...3 years growing a strain and not seeing it flower yet sucks ...
if you ask me at this point .. I would say it is some kind of rare aquatic Thai strain .would be my best guess at this point ..the next thing is can I force flower it ...I tried 12/12 once with 1000HPS it had little to no effect at all on this strain ...this time I will be trying twin 1200w LED and 10 hour forced flowering
I wont know what the flowers look like till I can get it to flower . I grew it for 6 months and 2 days before they died last time ..at this point I wish it was a modern strain base ,the test would be over already ...3 years growing a strain and not seeing it flower yet sucks ...
if you ask me at this point .. I would say it is some kind of rare aquatic Thai strain .would be my best guess at this point ..the next thing is can I force flower it ...I tried 12/12 once with 1000HPS it had little to no effect at all on this strain ...this time I will be trying twin 1200w LED and 10 hour forced flowering
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people make jokes about what they don't under stand . if it was joke to me I would not buy twin 1200w Led and a new DWC system to try to grow this strain .
what others think about this will not stop me from trying to flower this rare strain ..I have no idea what the value of this strain will be when I am done or if it will any value at .. so far it is teaching me many things and I have been smoking and growing 44 years ..
I want to see what the flowers look like that will tell the whole story ...
the data from flowering a strain like this will take weeks if not months to study ,but what it can tell us could be priceless ..
one thing I am looking at is the fact it is some kind of sativa ,Thai, indicia hybrid and now defined as a hydro type structure it maybe even more useful in breeding then we believed ...
I don't know what the strongest sativa is . old timer haze or one of the south American strains but often its said the strongest comes from the Asian area north of where this strain was found ..
a lot of the rain forest in that area are now gone ,we may never get the chance to flower a strain like this again in our life times ...
when you spend $3000 just to flower a strain and that has nothing to do with marketing of any kind we risk the lost of many strain bases that have been over crossed and past around so fast they are lost to breeding in months ...
I don't see how I can lose at this point . the wisdom of working with a rare strain like this is worth my out of pocket ...
if anything a lot people had a good lol and something to joke about . but let see who is lol when its over ...lol
what others think about this will not stop me from trying to flower this rare strain ..I have no idea what the value of this strain will be when I am done or if it will any value at .. so far it is teaching me many things and I have been smoking and growing 44 years ..
I want to see what the flowers look like that will tell the whole story ...
the data from flowering a strain like this will take weeks if not months to study ,but what it can tell us could be priceless ..
one thing I am looking at is the fact it is some kind of sativa ,Thai, indicia hybrid and now defined as a hydro type structure it maybe even more useful in breeding then we believed ...
I don't know what the strongest sativa is . old timer haze or one of the south American strains but often its said the strongest comes from the Asian area north of where this strain was found ..
a lot of the rain forest in that area are now gone ,we may never get the chance to flower a strain like this again in our life times ...
when you spend $3000 just to flower a strain and that has nothing to do with marketing of any kind we risk the lost of many strain bases that have been over crossed and past around so fast they are lost to breeding in months ...
I don't see how I can lose at this point . the wisdom of working with a rare strain like this is worth my out of pocket ...
if anything a lot people had a good lol and something to joke about . but let see who is lol when its over ...lol
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thank you 20'Thai where ever you are ...?
He was correct the strain would not flower under 1000W HPS . it is now flowering under 1200W LED
2 years 9 months studying this strain .
I have a male in hydro DWC and two females in BMX pro mix soil so far
the male is not like any male I have ever seen before ,it has the pollen balls and a large green bud on top covered with crystal and purple and bright white leaf growth ,we are just going to set and wait till it shows me what it is doing . at this point the male is in hydro DWC and the two females are in soil . the test proves that the LED lights are causing the flowering stage , the hydro DWC has some effect to height and over all health of a given plant with in the strain base .
$3000 and 2 years and 9 months studying this strain base .thousands of hours ...
should I risk moving the best female to hydro DWC ...?
we Now have the Very Rare Old Ancient Strain Abducted growing & stable for the first time ...!
He was correct the strain would not flower under 1000W HPS . it is now flowering under 1200W LED
2 years 9 months studying this strain .
I have a male in hydro DWC and two females in BMX pro mix soil so far
the male is not like any male I have ever seen before ,it has the pollen balls and a large green bud on top covered with crystal and purple and bright white leaf growth ,we are just going to set and wait till it shows me what it is doing . at this point the male is in hydro DWC and the two females are in soil . the test proves that the LED lights are causing the flowering stage , the hydro DWC has some effect to height and over all health of a given plant with in the strain base .
$3000 and 2 years and 9 months studying this strain base .thousands of hours ...
should I risk moving the best female to hydro DWC ...?
we Now have the Very Rare Old Ancient Strain Abducted growing & stable for the first time ...!
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the LED lights worked ...
3 females /4 males
for the first time scents 1969 , Abducted stabilized and flowering
nudes 8 per 8 inch height,
spacing is about 3/4 inch to a 1 1/8th inch per 8 inches height.
but I do think it will stretch some ...how much , no real way to tell at this point ...
first pic the upper left darker smaller plant is the female
3 females /4 males
for the first time scents 1969 , Abducted stabilized and flowering
nudes 8 per 8 inch height,
spacing is about 3/4 inch to a 1 1/8th inch per 8 inches height.
but I do think it will stretch some ...how much , no real way to tell at this point ...
first pic the upper left darker smaller plant is the female
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the 3 females look great very stable
the male wants out ...lol
the male wants out ...lol
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hello
I have a few questions for some of the breeders out there ... the male is this strain has started showing female gender with in the last 24 hours .it is making a female cola .. and what the hell is the flower starting to develop in the center of the female cola on the female ..????????????????????
I have checked the other females they are also making this flower bud in the center of their cola .. I have never seen this on any cannabis plant before ..what is it ?
I collect male pollen . but I have no idea if it is male or some kind of hermaphrodite I have never seen this before ... I know what hermaphrodite is, I have never seen one like this before ...I was hoping to see a nice cola on the female and now I have some crazy flower bud forming in the center of my cola ...??? WTF !
has anyone ever seen a flower bud from a female cola before ...???????? what the hell is this ?????
I have a few questions for some of the breeders out there ... the male is this strain has started showing female gender with in the last 24 hours .it is making a female cola .. and what the hell is the flower starting to develop in the center of the female cola on the female ..????????????????????
I have checked the other females they are also making this flower bud in the center of their cola .. I have never seen this on any cannabis plant before ..what is it ?
I collect male pollen . but I have no idea if it is male or some kind of hermaphrodite I have never seen this before ... I know what hermaphrodite is, I have never seen one like this before ...I was hoping to see a nice cola on the female and now I have some crazy flower bud forming in the center of my cola ...??? WTF !
has anyone ever seen a flower bud from a female cola before ...???????? what the hell is this ?????
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The third pic looks like a normal female, the other two look like typical hermaphrodite plants. Probably has Thai in the genetics, although those leaves look to fat for that.
Might as well chuck the male and the hermis.
So you got this out of a rain forest back in 1969 you say?
Might as well chuck the male and the hermis.
So you got this out of a rain forest back in 1969 you say?
So how were the seeds stored for the past 46 years?
Usually do see flower buds forming a female cola, preferably without the male parts.
Stabilized?
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Seems hermie which must be a big kick to the nuts after all that time.... I teresting project. Seems traits r unfavorable anyway... twin 1200 leds to flower seems a bit much. Imo u should finish em out and smoke the hermie flowers... seeded the way nature intended the plant to be...
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a vet has been growing it in his back yard for 44 years . ever few years it makes a few nude seed there was 84 seeds total he got the strain in 1969 in the Mekong ..
so you have seen a female with a flower bud growing out of the cola like that ..?
I know the male is now showing both genders . I have never seen one change in 24 hours ... and is it going to keep changing . ?
I have no idea what this strain well do ,,so far its been a major pain in the a** !
from the way it acts it may grow under one 1200w LED or less but after this hard of a time getting it to flower I just did not want to risk them dying again ..
it dose look like some kind of Thai of some kind ...but as you said the leafs don't look right for Thai ..and one time it grows like Thai change the lights and it grows different ..its the craziest strain I have ever seen ...
I will grow it out but I will make the up dates even if they don't go the way I wish they would . facts are stronger data and even if its more problems then its worth at least everyone will know what these strain are first hand before they try to grow them ...
I have never seen a male herm like this ...it was a full male gender why change now ...?
its pulling a Jenner ...lol
but ask your self this .. if this is a old ancient strain .. why herm ,, modern herm is not as modern as we would think ...
so herm is not new to cannabis strain or the gene pool...this is not just making a few female hairs its make female bud and what looks at this point like a female cola ..
I don't know what this pollen would do to another plant of modern strain .. be interesting none the less ...and how do you judge a female if it dose not show the herm traits ...?male has the herm trait and female dose not ..is this telling us the herm traits come from the male side of the genders of the strain bases ?
still a lot of unanswered questions ...have to wait and see .. who knows what it will do next ..
I hope it makes great bud and don't grow thrones ..
and here is the real question make seed or not .keep a mother plant or not ...kill the males off or not,...they are bagged ...
so you have seen a female with a flower bud growing out of the cola like that ..?
I know the male is now showing both genders . I have never seen one change in 24 hours ... and is it going to keep changing . ?
I have no idea what this strain well do ,,so far its been a major pain in the a** !
from the way it acts it may grow under one 1200w LED or less but after this hard of a time getting it to flower I just did not want to risk them dying again ..
it dose look like some kind of Thai of some kind ...but as you said the leafs don't look right for Thai ..and one time it grows like Thai change the lights and it grows different ..its the craziest strain I have ever seen ...
I will grow it out but I will make the up dates even if they don't go the way I wish they would . facts are stronger data and even if its more problems then its worth at least everyone will know what these strain are first hand before they try to grow them ...
I have never seen a male herm like this ...it was a full male gender why change now ...?
its pulling a Jenner ...lol
but ask your self this .. if this is a old ancient strain .. why herm ,, modern herm is not as modern as we would think ...
so herm is not new to cannabis strain or the gene pool...this is not just making a few female hairs its make female bud and what looks at this point like a female cola ..
I don't know what this pollen would do to another plant of modern strain .. be interesting none the less ...and how do you judge a female if it dose not show the herm traits ...?male has the herm trait and female dose not ..is this telling us the herm traits come from the male side of the genders of the strain bases ?
still a lot of unanswered questions ...have to wait and see .. who knows what it will do next ..
I hope it makes great bud and don't grow thrones ..
and here is the real question make seed or not .keep a mother plant or not ...kill the males off or not,...they are bagged ...
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