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Strainhunter

Tropical Outcast
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If you want to discuss things with your friend(s) and want to assure stuff cannot be read by 3rd parties while being sent through the internet then you should look in to this:

http://www.secway.fr/us/products/simplite_msn/home.php

works great with Windows Live!

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-messenger?os=other


Sometimes SIMP (the encryption software) takes some minor tweaking to make it work but if you know how to re-boot the computer you are sitting on then don't let that scare you, it's easy to do!


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David762

Member
Interesting product for IM.

Interesting product for IM.

But I saw no indication of what encryption method is used, like RSA or 3DES or whatever, nor what the key length is. Proprietary security can sometimes be "no security", depending upon any built-in "back-doors" for LEO, etcetera, which does happen. Remember President Clinton's "Clipper Chip" with key escrow held by the Federal government?

There used to be (have to hunt for it these days) an open source email encryption program called PGP, from Phil Zimmerman before he went commercial. The version to look for is the international one, and compiled with a somewhat longer 2048 bit key (or longer) -- the USA version was not exportable, since encryption hardware or software is treated like a munition. BTW, never use DES, as it has been hacked | cracked.

If you want to discuss things with your friend(s) and want to assure stuff cannot be read by 3rd parties while being sent through the internet then you should look in to this:

http://www.secway.fr/us/products/simplite_msn/home.php

works great with Windows Live!

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-messenger?os=other


Sometimes SIMP (the encryption software) takes some minor tweaking to make it work but if you know how to re-boot the computer you are sitting on then don't let that scare you, it's easy to do!


:tiphat:
 

Strainhunter

Tropical Outcast
Veteran



Here's some info:

http://www.secway.fr/us/manuals/simplite_msn/manual.php

and

http://www.secway.fr/us/manuals/simplite_msn/manual.php?page=cryptov.html

Not sure what you can get out of that though.


Edit:

I think this is what you were talking about:

What cryptography Simp uses:

Simp uses both symmetric and public key ciphers. A public key cipher is used to send to your friend a random key which is then used to encrypt messages with the symmetric cipher. This overcomes the speed and size limitation of public key ciphers, since the public key cipher is only used once for each conversation.

Technically, Simp uses 2048-bit RSA for authentication and session key distribution and 128-bit AES symmetric ciphers for messages encryption.
 

David762

Member
Interesting product(s) REDUX.

Interesting product(s) REDUX.

The Simp Lite product (free) is a subset of Simp Pro ($$). Both work with Messenger Live. The 2048 bit RSA key management is perfectly adequate, although the Pro version offers 4096 bit RSA.
The IM | Voice encryption in Simp Lite makes use of 128 bit AES or Twofish, both reasonably secure but certainly not DHS|NSA-proof.

The Pro version offers additional encryption methodology, but still limited to 128 bit encryption. This provides speedy encryption/decryption without placing a major strain upon the computer hardware -- likely usable even on a 1 GHz net-book running Windows XP. The encryption should provide operational security (hours-to-days), but certainly not archival security (days-to-weeks). NSA has 18+ acres of supercomputers underground, and even Technical Squads with Border Patrol now use arrays of Sony PS3s to crack laptop / hard disk / thumb drive encryption.

Warning: The huge caveat(s) for any encryption software is trust in the vendor -- whether it pertains to key escrow for government/LEO access, or by the quality of the software coding / implementation.
Post-9/11, with the Patriot Act(s) and Military Commissions Act, you cannot expect a vendor to risk prison (even Gitmo) by failing to provide LEO | spooks a "back-door". You have been warned.

If you want to discuss things with your friend(s) and want to assure stuff cannot be read by 3rd parties while being sent through the internet then you should look in to this:

http://www.secway.fr/us/products/simplite_msn/home.php

works great with Windows Live!

http://explore.live.com/windows-live-messenger?os=other


Sometimes SIMP (the encryption software) takes some minor tweaking to make it work but if you know how to re-boot the computer you are sitting on then don't let that scare you, it's easy to do!


:tiphat:
 
C

cyberwax

Cryptochat with skype is a nice message service(addon for skype), u can export the keys onto usb and transfer for greater security. Not to mention skype has a built in 256-bit encryption for voice chat.
 
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InvisibleEmpire

I use Pidgin with OTR when i talk to my one friend about anything 'incriminating'
 

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