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a few noob questions

Dojo

Member
1.Can I veg longer then seeds company say I should? If so whats the effects of longer Veggin?

2. Is it ok to have my mother in soil Veggin under 2 24w gro flos? Any troubles using a soiled mother for clones to go into hydro?

3.In DWC can I use more then one air stone to make more bubbles? Does it make the plant do any better?

4. When I collect clones how long before they are ready for veggin?

5.Ive read up on LST SCRog and SOG is it possible to combine all methods ?

6.Whats the latest I can take a clone from a plant? Is it right before flowering?

7. Can I grow 2-3 scrogs with 400w in 3x4?
 

turbo

Member
u can veg as long as u want but your plant will soon get way out of control just tyr it ull see most veg until 12 to 18 in just depends what strain u got play around with it

no prob with mothers in soil and goto hydro and youll just have to see how they do under that light should be fine tho

air stone....i never used one my table would drain into my resv and would take quite a bit of air bubbles with it. i used a pump in my resv to circulate it as well

veg your clones when u see mad roots popin out of your cube the more the better then u can pop em right under ur light take it easy on the first few days not too close then go for it

iv never used lst just topping

and ya u can take clones whenever u want as long as they havent flowered yet iv heard of people taking cuts from plants that are flowering and they will revert but i think in the long run youll have shitty results so wouldnt recommend it

and 400w?? idont know im sure u can if your skills are good on training but sounds too small for me i dont think anything under 600 should be used but thats just me. if i had a 400 id prob only have one plant and practice ur training skills try and get like 6-8 zips out of it ................hope i could help!
 

st0ne

Member
Can I veg longer then seeds company say I should? If so whats the effects of longer Veggin?

Yes, under ideal circumstances a longer veg means a bigger plant with a bigger rootmass going into flowering, which equals a bigger yeild.
2. Is it ok to have my mother in soil Veggin under 2 24w gro flos? Any troubles using a soiled mother for clones to go into hydro?

Yes, although your wattage will limit growth. I can't see a problem taking clones from a mother grown in soil, and placing it into a hydro setup.

3.In DWC can I use more then one air stone to make more bubbles? Does it make the plant do any better?
Plants like up to twenty percent oxygen at root level. The more oxygen the better.
4. When I collect clones how long before they are ready for veggin?

Roots grow anywhere from 7 to 21 days. Past two weeks, some would argue to cull.
5.Ive read up on LST SCRog and SOG is it possible to combine all methods ?

It is my understanding that SCRog are larger plants with serious training. SOG is lots of smaller plants, with a shorter veg time, and quicker turnaround. I suppose you could train SOG plants, although it wouldn't be my first choice.
6.Whats the latest I can take a clone from a plant? Is it right before flowering?
You can take a clone off a plant in flower. Preferably before week two or three. Remove the flowers, put it under 18+ hours of modest light, and expect to wait longer than if it was from a healthy plant in veg.
7. Can I grow 2-3 scrogs with 400w in 3x4?

I would rather grow more, 4, or maybe 6 under a 3x4 footprint. It will be easier to completely fill your footprint, and give you more avenues to train your branches.
 

High Country

Give me a Kenworth truck, an 18 speed box and I'll
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1.Can I veg longer then seeds company say I should? If so whats the effects of longer Veggin?

2. Is it ok to have my mother in soil Veggin under 2 24w gro flos? Any troubles using a soiled mother for clones to go into hydro?

3.In DWC can I use more then one air stone to make more bubbles? Does it make the plant do any better?

4. When I collect clones how long before they are ready for veggin?

5.Ive read up on LST SCRog and SOG is it possible to combine all methods ?

6.Whats the latest I can take a clone from a plant? Is it right before flowering?

7. Can I grow 2-3 scrogs with 400w in 3x4?


  1. The longer you veg the bigger they get.
  2. No worries.
  3. The more O2 the better.
  4. When they have roots, usually about 14 days.
  5. LST and SCROG yes, SOG no.
  6. I can take clones 2 weeks into 12/12 no problems.
  7. You could but a 400W globe only has an effective light footprint of 2.5'x2.5'.
Check out all the grow tutorials and stickeys then have a go.

Keep reading and good luck.
 

Dojo

Member
  1. You could but a 400W globe only has an effective light footprint of 2.5'x2.5'.
Check out all the grow tutorials and stickeys then have a go.

Keep reading and good luck.


couldnt I just hang mylar curtains to make my space 2.5x2.5 to make it better??

thanks for answers guys
 

jd4083

Active member
Veteran
There's not a single question there that can't be answered by extensive reading. Not trying to be a prick, just letting you know that there is an incomprehensible amount of information on this forum about some of the most arcane things you could imagine and it would do you very well to spend as much time possible reading and searching through this website. Asking questions like this will get you started, sure, but to fully understand the concepts you're asking about you need to do your own research. Good luck.
 

el clandestino

super chato
I agree with jd4083.Its good to ask ???. But I learned most of what I know from reading bout others mistakes. Good luck your at the right place.
 

Dojo

Member
um yeah my questions were already answered before you "chimed" in with nothing of use...for your info searching aint as easy as you think ....hell i tried to search for some horror/bad stories of people growing and i got a bunch of nothing but 2 stories.....so yeah thanks for suggesting what i have been doing
 

jd4083

Active member
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um yeah my questions were already answered before you "chimed" in with nothing of use...for your info searching aint as easy as you think ....hell i tried to search for some horror/bad stories of people growing and i got a bunch of nothing but 2 stories.....so yeah thanks for suggesting what i have been doing

That's because you haven't taken the time to learn the way the search system works on this forum (and all vB-based forums). There are tricks to it.

I was polite to you, there is no reason for you to be a prick to me. Those people offering you suggestions have worked long and hard to acquire that information and likely used their god-given gift of a brain to figure it out. Judging by this thread and this post, you're not only lazy and inept, but also combative without any reason for being that way.

Good luck, and consider adjusting your attitude, as your last post indicates that you are nothing more than a petulant child.
 

Dojo

Member
There's not a single question there that can't be answered by extensive reading. Not trying to be a prick.



Yeah all I'm saying is instead of shooin me to do more research and recomending to do things im obvious am still doing seems pointless for you to even post....even after the fact that I got my answers...you werent trying to be a prick then what were you trying to be...helpful? Could of just been quiet if you didnt wanna be a prick...or could of sent me a link to somthing....but i know you have your vast knowledge of forum searching but where am i to turn when i cant find the answers to my questions as fast as you could? thus my post....just cause you say "i dont mean to be a prick" doesnt mean you wont be seen as one depend on what you say after that phrase just some food for thought...anyways i got my answers so im cool n the gang
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
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1.Can I veg longer then seeds company say I should? If so whats the effects of longer Veggin?

The up side is more yield. The down side is overgrowth, plants too tall or too big for your space.

2. Is it ok to have my mother in soil Veggin under 2 24w gro flos? Any troubles using a soiled mother for clones to go into hydro?

I don't grow hydro but would consider something other than soil as it will much up your pumps, tubes, etc. Coco might be better if you're leaning against hydroton or rock wool.

3.In DWC can I use more then one air stone to make more bubbles? Does it make the plant do any better?

Unless things have changed, more bubbles = better.

4. When I collect clones how long before they are ready for veggin?

Depends on the strain and environment. You should have rooted cuts within two weeks in most cases, less in some. You can spend your money on a cloner and get good results or you can go with a dome and save your money. All depends on your preference.

5.Ive read up on LST SCRog and SOG is it possible to combine all methods ?

:chin: Maybe some kind of LST/SCROG but I've never seen a SOG topped for yield by itself. If you come up with something give us a look see.:)

6.Whats the latest I can take a clone from a plant? Is it right before flowering?

I prefer to to take cuts no later than pre-flower. You can root a bud but sometimes they take a long time to start normal veg growth. Taking cuts in veg is cool too.

7. Can I grow 2-3 scrogs with 400w in 3x4?

If it fits in your footprint, yes. Keep in mind you'll get lots of growth between veg and early flower, aka stretch. Guessing the transition size is a crap shoot on the first grow but can be dialed in with subsequent grows and/or tips from other growers.
 

Dojo

Member
Thanks Disco I am now very confident in starting my first grow...I will most def have a grow report to go with it...just gotta get ph up and down with the tester and im ready to grow...thanks for all the info guys
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
Veteran
...But I learned most of what I know from reading bout others mistakes.

One of the best answers.

The search works pretty good but it's key word only, at least at the time of this post. If you select "advanced search" you can limit the keyword search to the thread title. If the keyword search is in the text body, good luck finding needles in an often enormous haystack.

You can do a text string on google and include "IC Mag" with the string. It's actually easier to find what you're looking for if you know how to string search.
 

Dojo

Member
I said I was a grow noob not a life noob...googled my way here matter a-fact and got a little history on the forums due to all my searchs...i learned a forum called Overgrow was like THE place to be...i feel this forum could be to me like Overgrow was to some people...but yeah respect to the peeps who answered my specific questions and not taking the easy route and telling me to google, video search...respect to disco for suggesting string searching
 
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