A different LST approach

[Chong]

So i would like to ask you guys about this approach which is basicly some form of LST
I think silverback had a thread about this and some other dudes showed some seriously cool plant pics it looked like some sort of SOG carpet
As i understand you need to peel one side of a main stalk (potato peeler works best) and add some root powder/gel,
then an individual branch becomes its own plant with one main bud and it should be about 3-5 feet tall


Advantages:
More roots= more bud
No popcorn buds just huge colas
More stealth plant (max 5 feet tall)
Better for wind (lower plant)
Good camo, its not exactly a standard cannabis plant

My questions :
how tall should a plant be when you do this (i guess 2-3 feet)
how old (i guess about 8 to 10 weeks)
its a lst but it is quite severe, you bend the plant almost all way down so the plant need to be sorta dry but how much
added soil should be a lighter mix because the roots are »new«
ect.


I draw this crappy illustration for better understanding

Thanx in advance for some good suggestions i know this is very specific so my plant is Peyote purple which is almost 100% indica, it normaly doesnt grow tall but on this spot it gets just 6-7 hours of direct sun and it will strech, but i need to grow this plant under or at most 5 feet tall

EDIT: The added soil should probably be mulched for a faster/better micro activity

 

[Chong]

I just lsted my PP

Here she is right before its 50cm tall, 50cm wide its been indoor for 1 month and outdoor for 2 weeks

Now:

Its about 3 inches from ground i will wait till the leaves go up and then maybe peel its back off but im sceptical about it not sure yet as its already almost all the way down

 

[g0vnaa]

I have been imagining something similiar too man.
Shout be a cool experiment lets hope it works
There are some similiar stuff, whit part of the plant bend down to the ground and buried.

Good luck

 

[Chong]

g0vnaa try it out,
i will wait for a few days or maybe few weeks before peeling the back of the plant, probably i just need to wait for the newer nods to grow a bit and turn up to the sun and then scrape it because i dont wont to cut any nods at least at this phase and just peel the stem in between

just dont know yet what soil type to use on this new roots maybe the safest bet is just to add the soil ment for seedlings and then later in season add worm castings or something simmilar

i think i need to add some mulch for better growth

thx bro good luck to you to

 

[blinky34]

You must have TIME to accomplish this. Every branch must have roots and when all are rooted you will find your season over. Offcourse not if you are in thhe belt of ecuator. When you do this every rooted branch will be like new plant, so, i do not know how outcome will be. Sure it is interesting as a experiment, but i think it is not practical for growing. It is another method of propagating cannabis plant besides, rooting and seeding. Salvi divinorum propagate itself on that way, btw. Govna you have some serious power in the username ... But i hope that your username is not a blueprint of you as a man . Budi dobar bro!

 

[DTFuqua]

Sounds good but I wouldn't unless your willing to throw away the plant(s). You are opening the plant up to all kinds of pathogens that can ruin the plant. It won't develop roots fast enough to make very good plants by the time it should be ready to pick. The original plats roots will be a better source of feeding the whole plant way before you would get roots further up and down the stalk, as long as the ground is broken up enough for roots and not hard pack dirt. You can still just keep training it along the ground to make detection less likely.

 

[Hazy Eye]

I think DTF is probably right about all of the pathogens and pests that can more easily attack in this position.
What if you just use a big branch maybe a node or 2 up the plant? Strip the whole branch down and get that rooted up good.
You can line a 12" branch with rooting gel or powder then wrap the branch in rapid rooters. Wrap it in saran wrap and keep it moist.
They will root just like a cut and then you can bury the stem that is now rooted.

*edit* Looking at the pic of tied down...you should maybe let up the plant a bit to get out of the soil.

 

[Chong]

Yo guys thanks for your input, i didnt thought about the pathogens.
But in i case i do it, i would if the stalk was at least 2/3 of an inch thick, or more so in this case the stalk would be 1m or more long and maybe thats to late to do it because it would be probably 1 or 1.5 month till flowering,
I think this is enough time for the roots to grow strong as they have time to grow in the strech time as well but the problem is i dont know how the plant reacts to this does the main stalk still grow or it stops.
If the later is the case its i guess the same yield as you get + - on both ways more roots but less stalk and no new branches. The thing is i dont know, but have heard about tomato growing this way too.

 

[Gelado`]

I'd just grow topped clones and put them out later in the season.

 

[thelaughingman]

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[THC123]

I always train like this

Best is to top them now then all side branches will shoot out and you will get a nice bush.

Once the new branches have 5 nodes top them at the fifth and tie them down just like you did with the main stem.

Then you can repeat that once more with the new branches and then just let her go!

 

[Chong]

Thx for comenting THC, nice grow you got going.

So about 1 day after i lsted the plant a fucking cat took a bite on the plant 2 inches wide, the missing part was laying besides so i guess it spit it right out... So the remaining part that was connecting the 2 parts of the plant was just a few threads.

I somehow managed to keep the other part alive to but had to cut some leaves and sets off because they dryed up. I was and i am now just adding some moisture to that part by some kitchen towel, under i just puted some small put so it holds the plant up from the soil.

The missing part didnt heal yet but it became a bit thicker (few mm) and is on the bottom of stem, so i dont think i will try that method i wanted, maybe 1 month later i will see.
Anyway the smaller sets are starting to shaping nicely so i am not that dissapointed.