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400 sq ft, 5500w HID, 100% mayhem

First time posting, long time lurking on this fabulous website. I'm a pretty concise fellow (sometimes too concise) so ask questions, give advice, tell me I'm singlehandedly ruining marijuana for everyone, what have you. This is mostly just a personal record of a semi-massive undertaking, anything else that comes with is just biscuits on the gravy. SO, that being said...

I have recently come into a unique opportunity to manage a legal grow. I provided some advice and assistance to the owner here throughout the year, but they have found running a full scale operation with absolutely zero prior experience is an incredible challenge. The first harvest was very good quality with abysmal yield, but predictably so. These plants were kept in a shed for several months with inadequate light and ventilation, moved into a greenhouse to flower late in the season, moved inside to more inadequate lighting after a week of ~40 degree temperatures, fed only a handful of times with inconsistent soil additives, etc etc. Basically, they were his Lewis and Clark expedition of uncharted territory, where he was expecting more of a futuristic metropolis right off the bat. So he has gone to pursue more fruitful ventures in his previous line of work and is letting me keep this afloat. Although I am nowhere near the level of knowledge I need, I have grown a few times on a very small scale, and have poured through information for months at a time.

I did not develop the growing infrastructure, so bear with me and try not to have a stroke from what you see. I have a year to redo most of this before license renewals. I do give the owner much much credit for pulling through the license process itself with nothing other than his own blood and sweat, he basically fabbed this whole thing together with things that were lying around his property.

The Basics

Everything is housed in a large 2 story log cabin which makes temperature stability a breeze. Vegging/clones upstairs, flowering downstairs. It's a little awkward with the light schedule, but from a safety/efficiency standpoint it seems the less heavy loads to carry up and down the giant flight of stairs the better. Growing area walls and floor have been covered in 3mm PE film and some reflective bubble wrap stuff. Water is pretty hard but pH neutral from a large well pump.

FLOWERING

Soil- local organic indoor potting blended with kelp and guano, various size containers

6 600W HPS (probably overkill) over 2 4'x8' plastice lined beds
2 6 inch 440cfm can fans circulating from top to bottom
Temperature stays around 70 degrees, 40-50% humidity

Most of the plants have already been harvested and are now curing but there are still 20 survivors from the first generation, as you can probably tell they have been through a bit of a struggle.

VEG

3 600W MH over 2 beds, going to order some T5s and T8s for the babies and moms.
1 1000W MH over the mothers right now

Everything has fed with various molasses/guano/kelp/alfalfa/worm casting tea blends depending on the stage of growth. Feedings have been inconsistent throughout this cycle but I plan on every other watering once they are established.

There has been no pH monitoring or buffering! I could be wrong but it seems like there are definitely some pH issues on top of the nutrient problems.

If anyone is still with me here stay tuned, I'll be uploading pics today. I'm not prettying anything up beforehand, just to have a reference of where I started.
 
Progress pics coming along. First harvest turned out extremely potent, and miraculously retained the fruity deliciousness through drying. Everything here is between 3 days and 2 weeks curing by now. The drying/curing shed has really dim lighting so it was kind of hard to get a good pic of the bud but i'll take a better one and label it with strains in a bit.
 

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the garden... remaining plants from the first cycle flowered a few weeks later than the rest outdoors so they're still budding along.

Moved down 12 salvageable clones from upstairs, a lot of this batch was cloned directly into the greenhouse with no humidity dome or temperature regulation on hot summer days. Many young souls were lost. They are very perky ~1 week after a nice transplant and drench with molasses.

Upstairs are the remaining stragglers and the next wave. I plan on transplanting and tying 6 more mothers as the previous ones became rootbound and neglected as you can see :( Luckily saved 4 white widow females that are springing back nicely, and will be mothers here in a month or 2. Forgive me if this is confusing, I can clarify anything. Posting this between setting up the transplant, tie downs, and cleaning up/organizing. The black PE film lightproofing between floors is pretty rough, it works fine but falls apart every couple of days. This had been remedied with excessive helpings of duct tape, lol. I'll be redoing that this weekend.

The tall lanky ones I included for shits and giggles because they just look so goofy.

If everything looks crazy and on the brink of collapse, that's because it totally is! I've been interested in growing for about 10 years now since I was 15 but have never been in a situation to seriously pursue it. Now this whole thing fell into my lap and it just seemed too interesting to pass up. An immersive crash course in all things cannabis.
 

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Back again, with better pictures and hopefully better formatting.

Holy crap is this a lot of work! Thrips and mites fucking everywhere! There is really no process in place for this many plants so I'm basically winging it as I go! I am rebuilding this entire operation WHILE rehabilitating 80 plants AND preparing for another crop in the next couple of weeks... wooooooo!!!!

Although nearly every plant has been abused or slightly neglected in some way, this initial monster chaos cycle will be great for figuring out how to identify, analyze, and solve just about every problem that could possibly exist in this setup right off the bat. Great experience imo, although it's not exactly "fun" quite yet lol. Here's a little progress...

Before:
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And After!!!
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New mothers (Big Bud, Short Ryder(?) & Blue Dream) looking vogue as hell:
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Old mothers (White Widow, Hindu Kush, Master Kush, Bob Marley) starting to bounce back:
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And I just love this cute lil gal right here...a revegged clone that's acting like ground cover. Got two of these, will this same growth occur when it's cloned? That would be AMAZING!!!
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So that was my day today...on top of weighing first harvest. a pound and a half from 30 full size plants lol... nowhere to go but up.

Hope I'm not boring you guys! Maybe it's a little uncouth for this to be my first post and thread? I feel like my strongest contribution to this site right now would be documenting this process and showing problems and their solutions (or non solutions), as I don't have much time for adding discussion to other threads. In any case, I'll be right here!
 
Quick update, seems last night I had a visitor who volunteered himself to prune some of the mothers. I appreciate the sentiment, but really I am just not impressed.
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Come on, cutting a plant down to the bottom 2 nodes? Pruning every branch up to the fan leaves? And he didn't even have the decency to clean up after himself.
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Most novice pack rat ever.
 
Quick update here! Everything chugging along nicely. Slow but steady progress to where I'd like this to be! Excited to see what this will look like in 3 month's time...

The white widow transplants are beefing up nicely and will be ready to clone in a few weeks. On the right is one of the Low Ryder that got massacred by that damn rat, both surviving branches still looking healthy and tied down.

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Jack Herer, Hindu Kush, Gooberry, Tora Bora...this is the misfits/loners section

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All the mommies bouncing back nicely after the texas packrat massacre came through town

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Next flower table, finally starting to see a bit of a canopy, although a little uneven

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3 months from now this will be in a muuuuuuuch different situation. Still learning so much but I feel I've done a decent job bringing this nightmare under control lol. now i'm off to pack 300 joints by hand! never a dull moment jfc
 
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