3LB's Molasses - The Miracle Addative

[Dave_the_stoner]

During flowering go easier on molasses, too much molasses can lead to bacteria outcompeting the fungi in your soil.

Would it be a good idea to use molasses lightly when using a fungi such as Mycorrhizae in my soil?

 

[JollyGreen]

I have organic plantation mollasses and organic sucanat does anyone know how to use it in conjuction together? Any info on Sucanat would be great.

 

[stoned teacher]

Looked around for a while and couldn't find Blackstrap molasses at typical grocery stores (only grandmas non blackstrap), finally found it in the natural/organic section of the local Wegmans....The Plantation stuff shown a few threads back....Got some for me and some friends. We'll see how she goes!

 

[Suby]

Would it be a good idea to use molasses lightly when using a fungi such as Mycorrhizae in my soil?

It won't hurt but it won't really boost Mychorizae levels based on what I've read but then again they form a symbiotic relationship with the roots, roots produce root exudase which is a form of sugar that feeds the microherd.

Beneficial bacteria benefits most from the use of molasses IMHO.

S

 

[GDB]

I've never used this stuff either and will be heading out tomorrow to find some. I can't wait to see the results as I am mid-way through a crop.

 

[Guest]

I used molasses to culture mike fungi and it worked great.That does or does not translate to soil?

 

[kovenant]

One more big factor i would like to say. Calcium is Very important for plants in flowering. and vegging for that matter. Oyster shells work wonders in your soil!!!! Max Cal that a plant can take without burning as thats how organics works take what it wants leave the rest.

that - and when organics are being used the normal pH'ing for nutrient uptakes/lock-ups kind of go out the door too... when a plant needs a certain nutrient, and its available organically in the soil, it WILL use it.

and i just love molasses ive been using 1-2 tsp / gallon... going to kick it up to 1 tbs/gallon from now on

cheers!

 

[mendodeep]

molasses works great I have started using yucca extract with my molasses and it works even better.

 

[swampdank]

wow,that was alot of information

 

[judas cohen]

that - and when organics are being used the normal pH'ing for nutrient uptakes/lock-ups kind of go out the door too... when a plant needs a certain nutrient, and its available organically in the soil, it WILL use it.

and i just love molasses ive been using 1-2 tsp / gallon... going to kick it up to 1 tbs/gallon from now on

cheers!

In my opinion, it is possible to overfeed a plant in organic soil with mykes and using only organic ferts. Organics is more forgiving and there's more leeway, but it's not kevlar shield body armor for plants.

Same with pH. Add 2 TBL dolomite/gal Ocean Forest (that contains oystershell) and water with 8+ pH tapwater and see what happens over a period of time.

Organic soil doesn't respond as quickly as hydro (foliar feed excepted.) You might think everything is going just ducky and WHAM!!! WTF???

Things that can affect and apply to the above^^^: Strain, size of container, strength of amendments in soil, size of rootball and amount of leaves, light intensity, frequency/amount of watering/feeding, amount and activity of mykes/Beneficial Bacteria, air/soil temps, nutrient release rate/ availability, RH and CO2.

MJ is hardy and will grow in spite of the often misguided "help" that it receives from growers doin' their lovin' best to spoil and please their ladies. (I've proved that to myself enough times... LOL) Just because a plant looks pretty good, doesn't necessarily mean that it couldn't be much better if a few "tweaks" were utilized.

(Usually hard to determine without side by side comparison of clones, but I've found that the guys who have been growing a long time have pretty much done the detective work for me.) "Don't overwater, Less Is More, Easier to add than remove ferts, etc." is what newbs hear from the Old Dogs and is often good advice, IME....but there are many good ways to grow; It's Growers Choice.

I think it's worth mentioning that a healthy microherd will enable a grower to use LESS nutes by making what's given more available. That's one major reason commercial organic farmers go to the expense of adding mykes. Another thing I've read in at least 2 different studies is that it's possible for mykes to make too much P available with possible nute lockout resulting, but I didn't come away with any hard numbers I could relate to my grow.

Many (if not most) peeps use 1 TBL molasses/gal of water, but quite a few (3LB/Flintstoners for instance) use 1 tsp/gal. Frequency of application also comes into play. 1 tsp every coupla' days is the same amount as 1 TBL used once/week, but result is not necessarily the same.

(There is a school of thought that BB will feed on sugar instead of doing their job of breaking down compounds by munching on ferts in the soil, but I don't know if it's accurate. Also some university researchers believe that fungi dominant tea is preferable in flower, whereas molasses is primarily a bacteria booster.)

Bottom line is that plants grow using either amount, and some is better than none. Nature has been growing ganja a lot longer than we have (without our help) and has developed a system that is very resilient and adaptive.

Not preaching doom and gloom, but it seems to me that moderation is the best place to start and work up from.... Growing pot is fun and overthinking is not.... Different methods often yield similar results, but not always....

Grow Safely/Be Happy!

 

[Guest]

Thought this was good info. Sorry if I'm doubling up on any previous posts.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c21Ru.html

 

[swampdank]

read this thread twice. i read i once bout a week ago. just read it again and pulled so much info from it i will be saving a lot of money and going to the health food store often.

 

[Guest]

ive used mollasses for 4 years now and, i about creamed my pants the first plant I used it on, it tasted ****inincredible

no one understands why mine kicks ass all the way around and theres dont.
probly cause there still using salt-based ferts and bong-water!



This plant loved the mollasess



Becareful of feeding your plant mollasses during veg outdoors, I would use it only during flowering. All my outdoor plants I used mollasses with all ended up getting termites and ant colonies in the soil. (killing a few right at flowering) They love the sweet sugar taste, they cant resest it.

use it the last 2 months of the plants life and you should be fine.

 

[gdawg]

hey just found this thread and love it. i grow in coco with pbpnutes and drippers on recirc. i've been using the grandmas for a few weeks and they are lovin it. it seems like trich production is one benefit, cuz everything is sticky. heres a couple of pics, don't get stuck to the screen.









thanx for all the tips and info

 

[Guest]

I forgot to mention that I use SUGAR IN THE RAW it is a dark brown organic surgar from hawaii that hasnt really been ****ed with. (from wal-mart)

I add 2 tbls of sugar and 2 tbls mollases per gallon. And they love it, seems to bring out more of a bluish-green to the leaves like its healthier, and they dont seem to get pooped out during flowering due to the carbohidrates.

 

[mister_terious]

shankDank, how did you discover the compatabiliy of glycerol with the plants? Is it the type available at the local drug store or super center?

 

[Big Brother]

Molases and gardening

Molases and gardening

Awhile back when I was younger and my dad called me to help him clean out my great grand[parents house I came across a small bound book that was labeled Agricultural and Gardening notes, In it mention that use of beer or whiskey mixed with water and sugar to activate a compost pile, the whiskey and beer has enzymes and that use of soda pop or sas afras ( heavy sugar) would feed the enzymes and help bacteria decompose the compost

 

[Guest]

I use mollasses for my mushroom compost.

 

[kidkannabis]

Well i followed everyones step by going to the store and purchasing my Grandmas Molasses.Hopefully ill see results soon.Whats a good mix to start with?My plants are 3 weeks vegging.

 

[kidkannabis]

ooops forgot to ask.Should i adjust ph level of water before adding molasses or does it matter?