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3LB's Molasses - The Miracle Addative
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I don't believe ants would be a problem, ants are from what I remember scavengers, they bring back leaf material to the hive so it can become moldy, the ants feed off the mold (don't quote me on this I'll google it to make sure).
Besides ants won't eat the soil just to get at the molasses and the microbes make the molasses dissappear pretty quickly, like candy on a 1st grade field trip.
If ants become a problem you can make your own ant traps and they are very effective.
Peace
Suby
EDIT I must have been stoned during that Discovery channel moment, it would appear I know jack shit about ants
Besides ants won't eat the soil just to get at the molasses and the microbes make the molasses dissappear pretty quickly, like candy on a 1st grade field trip.
If ants become a problem you can make your own ant traps and they are very effective.
Peace
Suby
EDIT I must have been stoned during that Discovery channel moment, it would appear I know jack shit about ants
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haha suby, not around here come spring and summer the fuckers are everywhere, looking for anything to break down. mostly things high in sugar, im sure they grab other things but ive had some tea that had outside it a ring of ants all along the inside, only happened once i have to say. didn't hurt anything. you asked about pure sugar cane? i been using it lately and mj don't love it as much as a good molasses. some other plants are thriving because of it and it being spring. not saying it doesn't do its job though.
dontlockmeup
Member
sort of off topic but I heard that ants will sometimes bring aphids onto a plant and feed off of the aphids waste.
i've been using molasses for a while now. i noticed an improvement in flower production. no problems with pest to date.
i've been using molasses for a while now. i noticed an improvement in flower production. no problems with pest to date.
G
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Suby said:
I bought the pellet kind of dolomite lime. Can I ground that to a powder or is it different?
You can pulverize it if you choose. I use prilled dolo (just because it's all I can source locally)... it's just powdered dolomite that's been pelletized by rolling in clay, which is water soluble, of course. Once it contacts water, the clay dissolves, but if you want to make it even more quickly available, just pulverize it prior to using. (Which is more of a pain in the ass than it sounds like it would be.)
Dignan
Dignan
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vonforne
jjschagundi said:
If you don't mind Suby.
You can crush your pellets eaisly. Place in a coffe grinder and push on. Repeat until you have the amount you are looking for.
I used to do this with star anis. And it is much tougher than the lime pellets.
Good luck, V
Molasses
Molasses
Canna Vega smells like molasses.
Canna Flora smells like caramel.
Molasses
Canna Vega smells like molasses.
Canna Flora smells like caramel.
G
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If someone can explain the use of protein vs carbohydrates with regard to the biological soil system I'd appreciate it.
As far as I know, carbohydrates and proteins serve as food for the microheard
Proteins are used as food and broken down into nitrates which then serves as a form of available nitrogen to plants
So I am kind of confused....I'm wondering, if I have some grain as an organic soil amendment (which is primarily proteins), will the microheard be satisfied for food? Or do they also need more carbohydrates to be applied through molasses?
This is my current mindset:
Carbohydrates/sugars = food for microheard
proteins = food for microheard that gets broken down and supplies nitrogen in the process
But if I have a grain like cottonseed, is there enough carbohydrates? I don't wanna add molasses unless I have to.
I usually add coffee grounds, seaweed from the beach, compost, and sometimes a grain or meal to my soil. So I am kind of doubting I would need to add molasses.
Can someone add on to my basic knowledge of this all in terms of protein vs carbos?
As far as I know, carbohydrates and proteins serve as food for the microheard
Proteins are used as food and broken down into nitrates which then serves as a form of available nitrogen to plants
So I am kind of confused....I'm wondering, if I have some grain as an organic soil amendment (which is primarily proteins), will the microheard be satisfied for food? Or do they also need more carbohydrates to be applied through molasses?
This is my current mindset:
Carbohydrates/sugars = food for microheard
proteins = food for microheard that gets broken down and supplies nitrogen in the process
But if I have a grain like cottonseed, is there enough carbohydrates? I don't wanna add molasses unless I have to.
I usually add coffee grounds, seaweed from the beach, compost, and sometimes a grain or meal to my soil. So I am kind of doubting I would need to add molasses.
Can someone add on to my basic knowledge of this all in terms of protein vs carbos?
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G
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molasses isn't needed but it will boost the colony into production but any source of food will keep them alive. I only feed my bucket molasses every other feeding or less, they sustain on the fruit scraps and such but when i do add molasses they go through the roof.
J.
J.
G
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what is the application rate per gallon if you just use unsulphered molasses and H2O?
headees
Active member
Anyone have any problems with molasses affecting taste in a negative way. A buddy went a little crazy with molasses with one crop(not too bad, but over the recommended dosage), and it seemed to come out in the taste of the smoke, and it wasnt a good thing. Every strain he did had that same molasses like taste. I was just wondering if anybody had the same experience.
G
Guest
Ya never know, things other than nutrients do pass into the plant tissue...take pathogens for instance...so who knows, maybe a lil molasses taste gets in there? I'd find it hard to believe you would notice it..hmm..I would say it's all in your head before I'd say the nugs could taste of molasses.
G
Guest
I don't think it could but I may be wrong. The distinct molasses smell and taste are because of the current state it is in; once the plant and microbes make use of it, it is no longer the same. Most of the sugars are taken by microbes not the plant and the minerals should have little impact with regard to a mineral taste. It is acid compounds that make up the majority of taste and bouquet.
J.
J.
theFLINTSTONERS
Member
beetlejuicey said:
as little as a teaspoon per gallon can be used to good effect . . . these days that's the rate we use when foliar feeding . . .
when using as a fertilizer . . . a tablespoon per gallon is usually enough . . .
Simpleton
Member
I received a jar of molasses from a friend which he made himself from watermelons. The flesh was put into a processor and seeds were strained out. The flesh was then put into pots and allowed to cook at low heat for a day and a half. The result was pure molasses that has a much sweeter taste to it than unsulphered molasses from the store which is much richer. I was told by my friend that the flesh of the watermelon eventually liquefies into molasses with nothing to strain if cooked right.
This got me thinking about all the other fruit that could be used to make molasses and how it might alter the nutrient makeup of the finished product.
http://www.ltl.appstate.edu/436/schools/beech/community/molasses/molassesmake.htm
This got me thinking about all the other fruit that could be used to make molasses and how it might alter the nutrient makeup of the finished product.
http://www.ltl.appstate.edu/436/schools/beech/community/molasses/molassesmake.htm
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Lambsbreath
Member
Amazing info Simpleton, i have watermelon growing and sometimes some that are not good due to insect deseases or over ripe.
Do you have the receipe of your friend, how many water melon for 1 liter of mollasse ?
One Love.
Do you have the receipe of your friend, how many water melon for 1 liter of mollasse ?
One Love.
Simpleton
Member
Homemade Molasses
Homemade Molasses
Dozens of melons. use a food processor to separate seed from pulp and strain seed out.
Fill up the biggest pots you have with strained pulp, fill all the burners on your stove with pots, and keep the heat low.
A day and a half later you will be left with molasses. Depending on your pot size you will be left with approx 1/2 liter.
It seems this would be something that needs to be done outside on a larger scale to get any kind of volume.
Homemade Molasses
Dozens of melons. use a food processor to separate seed from pulp and strain seed out.
Fill up the biggest pots you have with strained pulp, fill all the burners on your stove with pots, and keep the heat low.
A day and a half later you will be left with molasses. Depending on your pot size you will be left with approx 1/2 liter.
It seems this would be something that needs to be done outside on a larger scale to get any kind of volume.
