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3LB's Molasses - The Miracle Addative

Once I had a bottle of "Pomegranate Molasses" and substituted it. Don't know if it improved flavor or anything, but it didn't seem to hurt.

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i have read this whole thread and one person asked if anyone used this stuff in hydro???? is the mixing the same rate as soil or dont use as hydro additive???

Hey legalizekindtok

i have the EXACT same problem. ive read the whole thread but i just cant seem to find out how to use it in hydro(dosage,which kind etc.).

im running a dwc style if that helps for giving detailed information.

Thanks for putting out all this information.:tiphat:
 

Hazeo

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Hey legalizekindtok

i have the EXACT same problem. ive read the whole thread but i just cant seem to find out how to use it in hydro(dosage,which kind etc.).

im running a dwc style if that helps for giving detailed information.

Thanks for putting out all this information.:tiphat:

Hey legalizekindtok and rastaman.fb,

i read some articles about the molasses and i found out that most guys use the same amount of molasses for their hydrogarden like the soilgardeners (1 teaspoon per gallon water).

-but i read one post of a guy as well, and he said that he got problems with that dosage. he mentioned that he had particles in his reservoir.
someone told him to start with half a spoon per gallon in order to rise the amount of molasses until he recognize the building of praticles again... so you can test your personal best dosage...

another way someone hoped to solve this problem is to be sure that the molasses has dissolved completely by dissolving it first in a smaller amount of hot water.

I hope i could help you a bit with this information, you are very welcome!

sorry for my foreigner language... :)
 
Ive made a list of some of the common brands.

Brer Rabbit (Mild)

Potassium - 23%
Calcium - 2%
Magnesium 15%
Iron 10%

Brer Rabbit (Full Flavor)

Potassium 8%
Calcium 10%
Magnesium 20%
Iron 15%

Brer Rabbit (Blackstrap)

Potassium 7%
Calcium - 20%
Magnesium 25%
Iron 25%

Gramdma's Unsulfured Original

Potassium 3%
Calcium 4%
Magnesium 2%
Iron 4%

Tree of Life Unsulfured Blackstrap Molasses

Potassium 500mg %?
Calcium 15%
Magnesium 10%
Iron 20%

Wholesome Organic Molasses

Potassium 20%
Calcium 10%
Magnesium 8%
Iron 15%

Plantation Blackstrap Molasses #1

Potassium 10%
Calcium 20%
Magnesium % not listed ?
Iron 20%

Plantation Blackstrap Molasses #2

Potassium 12%
Calcium 8%
Magnesium 8%
Iron 20%

Thats @ 1TBS per gal - Obviously one would be careful to not over use since major amounts could cause specific lockouts.
 

Clackamas Coot

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Tactical Farmer

Keep in mind that those percentages are the amounts measured against the MDR (Minimum Daily Requirement) set by USDA and are not a percentage of the total amount found in a sample of a specific molasses.

HTH

CC
 
Bummer - thought it was the mineral % per TBS.

So your saying that 1TBS will give your body that % towards what you should have per day ?

In that case - converting those numbers from human to plant would be way off it seems.

CRAP..

Don't remember the sodium % to be high enough to bother listing,
 

Clackamas Coot

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So your saying that 1TBS will give your body that % towards what you should have per day ?

In that case - converting those numbers from human to plant would be way off it seems.
Correct. It's based on the serving size as listed on a product.

Let's say for sake of discussion that the serving size (which is set by the manufacturer) is 1 tablespoon. In that tablespoon of molasses would be the amounts of magnesium, sodium, whatever established by a lab test. It's that amount (in milligrams usually) that is then measured against the MDR.

So let's say that in a tablespoon of Brer Rabbit you have 20 milligrams of magnesium and let's say that the MDR for magnesium is 1,000 milligrams per day meaning that on the Brer Rabbit label it would read "2% Magnesium" or whatever the actual numbers are.

HTH

CC
 

Hazeo

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It's that amount (in milligrams usually) that is then measured against the MDR.

Word!

thanks to you TacticalFarmer for the list and your effort but as mentioned i asked for the total % of the minerals in the molasses.
thank you nonetheless!
 

abuldur

Member
I am not comfortable with the idea of putting raw sugars in the form of molasses directly in a hydro setup.
One that is not already well colonized with beneficial bacteria that is.
It might create anaerobic conditions detrimental to your setup.

Brewing a tea containing molasses,to the point where bacteria have made full use of the raw sugars,might be the way to go in hydro.
This might allow you to build up the beneficial bacteria in a hydro setup which will in time allow you to pour molasses directly into your solution.
Any experience with that someone ?

peace
 

3rdEye

Alchemical Botanist
Veteran
Word!

thanks to you TacticalFarmer for the list and your effort but as mentioned i asked for the total % of the minerals in the molasses.
thank you nonetheless!

If you just multiply the amount per serving times servings per container you'll get about the total mass of whichever mineral/element you are looking at. Then figuring out total % is only a step away. ;)

Still thinking about best uses for molasses. If at all leaning towards only for teas.
 

Mt Toaker

Member
Great info but in personal experience I find it worth the 15 bucks a quart to use 100% pure Maple Syrup as my sugar source. I was mixing all 3 Honey, Maple Syrup, and Molasses for a short time, experimented with both Honey and Molasses alone as the carbohydrate source but in the end I went back to Maple Syrup because of the end result in the smoke and plant reaction. I suggest every one try it once.
 

abuldur

Member
Nice one mt toker, never thought of maple syrup.
Only drawback is that it's expensive on our side of the Atlantic.
Makes perfect sense since maple syrup is concentrated sap.
Plus it got high K content.

peace
 

Frosy

Active member
Hey what a great thread about a sweet subject- but I am curious has anyone experimented with other sweet plants extracts like barley malt syrup, rice koji, or even honey?? What potential might be out there?
 

OPT

Member
I wonder if honey will fuck with the microbiology in the soil itself. I know that honey can't spoil which makes me wonder if it has some anti-bacterial/fungi substance in it. Although it is a natural sugar, fuck me, I'm curious myself.

OPT
 

3rdEye

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frosy excellent questions. Honey has a host of broad spectrum anti-biotics and anti-fungal compounds in it. Although it's natural water activity is low as well which helps prevent spoilage. I would use it for humans, but not for plants in this case. Seems a more fun and effective use.

Barley malt sounds like an interesting thread to follow. :)
 

nameless

bowlbreath
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maple syrup sounds interesting too... i use molasses all the time in flower works good for me...
 

Mt Toaker

Member
So has any one picked up the Maple Syrup yet to give it a go? I'd like to see what others think of it. Never thought of all those other natural plant sugar's like the barley malt syrup, rice koji. I used honey and didn't think it was doing as good as the maple syrup. . . And really $20 a quart is what you would get if you were buying some brand of shit so its not too bad imo. My take on the plant is, the more diverse selection of nutrients ect to choose from the more likely the plant will soak one up better then the other at what ever stage its in.
 

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