3 weeks left in flower... help..

[smokerjoe70]

What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...) aero table
What STRAIN are you growing? blueberry/ apollo 11
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) clone
What is the age of your plants? 3 months
How tall are the plants? 15"
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? flower 3 weeks left
What Technique are you using? lucas formula
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.) hydroton
What is the Water temperature? 70
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? white
What Nutrient's are you using? How much of each if using multiple? gh lucass formula at 1/2 dose
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using?
What is the pH of the "Tank"? 6.1 consistently
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment? yes
When was your last watering?30 mins every 45 mins
What is your water temps?70
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional) 6 days ago
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients? inbetween veg to flower
What size bulb are you using? 600w hortilux
What is the distance to the canopy? 30"
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)? 29%
What is the canopy temperature? 83
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range) night 68-72, day 80-83
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 400cfm
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? yes
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? RO
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? No
Are plant's infected with pest's No

 

[smokerjoe70]

 

[B4O2N0G]

Did you flower this clone without any veg time? Your plant is completely yellow(lack of nitrogen or too much) and it looks overferted (burnt tips and brown spots)too.I dont think the buds are going to much bigger on those as I cant see many fan leaves that are still providing energy to your plant.All I can suggest is to maybe cut down on the nutrients because that plant(are there more than 1,i cant tell?) is too small for 1/2 tsp of nutrients,maybe try 1/4 tsp.Good luck with your plants.Also I think you just registered but try to report a problem with your plant as soon as you see one and it will probably be easier to fix than when its already possibly to late.Peace.

 

[smokerjoe70]

I have 3 plants and they veg'd for almost 5 weeks but I didnt get the growth that I expected. I will try diluting my reservoir to bring nutrients to 1/4 strength. thanks for your help!

 

[Guest]

gh lucass formula at 1/2 dose



Whats this mean??? If it means what I think thats a problem....

lucas should be followed at full strength.... it has been well tested....

 

[smokerjoe70]

I did lucas's formula for flowering at half dose because I transplanted them from soil and I didn't want them to get nutrient burn. Sorry I left out that out of the first post...

Here are some more pics with the light off to show the true color.

 

[smokerjoe70]

 

[B4O2N0G]

When did you transfer to hydro? Although I have switched from soil to hydro during veg it stills shocks them and growth is a delayed for a little bit.If you transfered to hydro while it was flowering in soil then your plant was really shocked and probably couldnt take it and thats why its just yellowing and not looking very good.The bud on one of those plants looks a little frosty,do you have a scope to see if its actually close to being done?

 

[smokerjoe70]

I transfered 7 days ago.. they looked great for about 4 days and then went down hill. Whatever the problem is effected the one on the far right first because it started going down hill about a month ago when they were all still in soil.

 

[libby]

Can you recall what your PH was whilst your plants was in soil ?

Althought this is now irrelevent, the sprayer in your pic, is it delivering enough water/food, as your hydro looks a bit dry ( to me!)

 

[LiLWaynE]

your plants look like they are not uptaking nutrients.

from my knowledge it could be either:

A) the roots are not big enough

B) nutrient lockout (you screwed up somewhere and now they will not uptake nutrients)

c) you transplanted wayyyyy to late in flower from soil to aero.... aero works best when the roots themselves are getting hit with a mist, and from what i can see, they arent HALF as big as they should be... they should be oozing out of that net pot

 

[KUSHEATER1]

you transplanted during flower from soil to hydro that's it no nute uptake and they will most likely pass away hope ya took cuts from them...

 

[Bozo]

Please dont take this wrong but I wouldnt waste any more time or space on those .There not gonna get any bigger they might ripen up before they die

 

[HeadyPete]

You can't transfer from soil to hydro.

When you grow in soil, the roots that grow are soil roots, very fine root hairs and expansive roots that are meant to seek out moisture from every nook and cranny of your soil pot. Roots grown in water are thick, tough and built to take in the large amounts of water present in a hydro system. When you put your soil roots in water they couldn't handle being submerged and are dying off. This is why the plants are yellowing.

Even using hydro methods to clone for a soil grow is not recommended.

Those plants will not get better and probably won't live and they are not worth wasting one more days worth of electricity or nutes. Start over with plants grown in hydro from the beginning.

 

[B.C.]

Good post Pete!

Good post Pete!

Hey Joe maybe ya should do a few runs in soil till ya get the hang of things,it's much more forgiving. Good luck in the future,take care...BC

 

[MynameStitch]

Ya, I wil have to agree with petey, the plants are in shock for one, 2 the plants are not uptaking nitrogen, the entire plant is affected......

The sooner you put them into hydro the better, you can put soil to hydro, but you need to rinse all the soil off the roots in a sink, making sure the sink is sterilized before doing so, the bigger plant in soil to hydro the more risk you have of ruining the plant.

It takes time for the plants to switch over to get used to roots being in water from soil.

 

[B.C.]

They were doomed from the start...

They were doomed from the start...

I transfered 7 days ago.. they looked great for about 4 days and then went down hill. Whatever the problem is effected the one on the far right first because it started going down hill about a month ago when they were all still in soil.

These plants never did feed right.They were vegd fer 5 weeks and flowered fer 4 in soil before ever bein put in hydro.My guess is his ph was off in the soil.Already bein sick without much root structure,I agree the shock from transplant to hydro was the straw that broke the cammels back.....After readin Stitch's (great) post,it brought back to mind the rule of thumb on this sorta thing:you -can- go from soil ta hydro (like she said the younger the better) but you can't go from hydro ta soil except for young clones.The older the plant gets in hydro the bigger the roots get but there isn't any of the fine feeder roots required to feed the plant in soil (like Pete stated)...Sorry Smokerjoe I know this doesn't help you any right now but folks will learn from it,just as you have...Most of the time I suggest that folks should start out in soil jus because when a problem comes up there's plenty of time ta fix it.But in yer case I think you should start out in hydro,you seem ta have the bases covered pretty well.That or start in GOOD quality soil with ph buffers in it. Again,good luck in the future,BC

 

[smokerjoe70]

I want to say thanks to all for their input, I really appreciate it.

Unfortunately they have lost all their fan leaves now and all I have are buds on a stick!

The buds when magnified at 60x look good and really close to ripe ... so i will be taking then early while they are sleeping!

I have some nice clones from them that are vegging. They were cloned in an aero cloner so this next go about will be a little better! I am going to go with Highgrades mix this next time because I have had a successful harvest using that recipe before.

-SJ

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

I want to say thanks to all for their input, I really appreciate it.

Unfortunately they have lost all their fan leaves now and all I have are buds on a stick!

The buds when magnified at 60x look good and really close to ripe ... so i will be taking then early while they are sleeping!

I have some nice clones from them that are vegging. They were cloned in an aero cloner so this next go about will be a little better! I am going to go with Highgrades mix this next time because I have had a successful harvest using that recipe before.

-SJ

sorry about the problems man... but honestly... how are you going to go from soil to areo? thats such a night and day differance! dont do drastic changes like this ever again. slow and steadly make small gradual changes.
good luck on the new clones. i hope u get somthing that gets u high for all that stress this grow caused. good luck!

 

[MynameStitch]

Unfortunately they have lost all their fan leaves now and all I have are buds on a stick!


This is what happens when the plant goes into shock, not to mention that is also what happens when the nitrogen deficiency of a plant is not fixed. BUT with yours, when root zone gets stressed, the plants get stunted and slowly die, but they use up all stored nutrients in there leaves before dying off, so they could be there for months before they die, as long as they have food in there leaves they stay alive.

There was obvious a lot of stress to the root zone which caused this problem. They did not grow after switching them over did they?