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250w Freezer grow THaze x Skunk

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Don Cotyle

Live long and prosper...lol... no really! A very photogenic end to a wonderful grow!!! Ya did one hell of a job controling the Thunk FB PROPS!!! Don't forget to PM me a link to your next gro-sho I'd like to pull up a chair and take a look see!

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to FreezerBoy again.'' Oh well I tried...lol


Did you hear about my Meltdown??? My ceramic heater started a small fire filling up my closet and room with smoke and heat, I went from a 16 bean 100% germ rate with 2 weeks growth to 8 transplanted to one lonley surviver...sure hope it a female, at least I'll be able to clone her if it is!

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=87050

Ya win most and sometimes ya just get kicked in the teeth!!!
 
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TML16

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Congrats on the harvest :smile:

That is one helluva rootball :yoinks: Lookin nice!

Hope it gives you enough smoke to get you by :ying:

Looking forward to the next round :lurk:
 
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Bigtimer7

COngrats!

Hell of a scrog man! I hope the weight works out for you.. Its should be good smoke. That this is a beast thou. I had a couple growing and DAMN! they fight for that light and WIN!! LOL

GOod job man! Seriously great lookin grow my man! Props +++
 
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NZjay

finally it comes down! lol...

good finish man! and the "bird" feeling you mention.. coz its a sativa man...

what ya running next??!? awesome grow dude... i feel like we are cousins or something...
you grow in a freezer, i grow in a bunkbed. lol. are we sick or what ??? lol

great looking finish even if they are not as dense as you hoped. but i think you did a great job. PERFECT scrog on a wild strain - you should be very pleased with yourself.

congrats.
 

FreezerBoy

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Don- Holy @#$%* Batdude. Glad you're OK. Let's send Don some positive vibes "I DO believe in girls. I DO believe in girls. I DO believe in girls ..."

Thanks Mape. I couldn't really see it during the grow because of the scrog and bucket. There were actually times I thought it didn't seem very big in there. Then it was in my hands and I was so excited and ... now what? Do I bronze it? Make a door mat? I felt like a baby that pooped in the toilet for the first time "Don't flush it mommy, it's mine!"

BT, thanks. I once thought I was going to grow two in this cab ... Don't even want to contemplate the feeling of having to rip one out. Which one, Sophie?

SoEx, a big woot to you too. WOOT!

NZ, oohhh, now you done it. Cousins? Now you have to take me in when I come down under. I know you got an extra bed. I need to sharpen my editorial skills. The lightness of the buds wasn't dissappointment, simply surprise, Usually, my hands and eyes agree on things. This time, they were both convinced the other was nuts.
 

FreezerBoy

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Great news and "feh" news. Swapped out the inline fan for the axial yesterday afternoon. Checked on temps 3:00 am; Garage 64, cab 82. Checked again this afternoon; Garage 68, cab 82. That's about 5 degrees hotter than the inline. It could spell trouble in the summer but, for now, it's more than acceptable in exchange for proper stealth. Yea!

I feel like the world's biggest doofus. Between flu and panic, I bought and installed the inline BEFORE realising I needed a second intake. Turns out that was ALL I needed. For winter growing at least, D'OH! The thought of cutting two more holes (through dual layers of steel) for a dedicated light exhaust doesn't thrill me. A DIY cooltube is a cheap enough experiment. Plus it would allow me to rotate the bulb 90 degrees so it's perpendicular to the longer side rather than parallel.

The "feh" news? I can't find any of the goodies that went with the axial. The dryer vent tube kit I used to mount it is missing as is the fingergaurd. Originally the fan was in the cab and the tube extended outside where I attached a hose for a light trap. I was hoping to reverse that. Fan outside with tube going into the cab for hookup to a scrubber and/or cooltube. These things are a $10 fix. I can live with that.
 
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Great job FreezerBoy, looks like you got your fridge grow sorted.

Question - the scrog method you use is mainly to spread the branching out to a nice even space filling? I'm trying to decide if I'll sog, scrog or what with my grow. I have the space and like the ability to move pots around to best suit lights etc. Hmmmmm.....

My Original Haze X Skunk #1 is a month old and will be going to Flower probably day after tomorrow, had a problem with my power and electrician comes tomorrow to sort it for me.
 

yeknomssa

Member
Well Freezer Boy, I must say you put on quite a good show. I've been following since day 1, but i'm kind of a lurker lol. It was quite an adventure, though, like 120 days at the carnival.

I'm very into the spock idea of growing as well, but i went soil as a newbie. Started out in regular potting soil my first grow, but now i'm in peat, and i think my next grow will go to coco. I would love to try dwc but i don't have the know-how yet nor the space really. One of these days i'll work up the courage and the funds to take the plunge, but for now i try to mix a little buddha into my spock and keep my grow relaxing. with the way soil is, i don't need to monitor it 24/7 or even look at the plants for days (though i check at least once a day out of curiosity :D ) and it helps me get better at diagnosing any problems earlier.

On my first grow, I didn't really cure any of it as i was out of smoke and didn't know about water curing at the time So i just started smoking it when it was dry, and kept it in a jar for the 2 weeks or so it lasted me. it did start to cure a bit more, and i must say that even with virtually no cure, it was some of the best smoke i've had in a while, and it just gives me more reason to grow again heh. Anyway, I wanted to ask you about water curing and see if you could point me to a good thread or two about it, as i'm thinking of water curing some of this grow. Obviously you're working in a larger capacity than me, but what are some good containers to use for it? and I know you need a TDS meter, but how accurate does it really need to be? because i bought a cheap $15 one from wallgreens that has worked for testing my water source, but I question its accuracy for the price.

I now realize that i've been rambling a bit, so i'll wrap this up, great grow, and live long and prosper :joint:
 

FreezerBoy

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Bumble Buddy said:

You know BB, just yesterday my freezer said the same thing. :joint:

NC: I happily did SOG for years. Then I saw root porn and I had to have it. Modular ScROG (mini screens for individual plants) might allow you to move things around as you like. A screen that takes up the whole cab like mine did prevents that sort of thing. Added bonus: With SOG I had as many as 50 plants at a time. With ScROG. I'm down to 3. You don't give room dimensions but if O*haze stretchs like T*haze, plan on it taking the space of 4-6 other plants.

Yekno. I ran a couple of DWC tests to the side before I committed to it. First one died from power failure. Second lived but, was a little twisted (bad pH from my days of vinegar) and eventually trashed when it showed male. Then there was this one. It really was a swift learning curve. With the large res I can safely leave the garden unattended for 2 weeks at a time.

Avoid TDS, PPM or CF. All of these are EC converted to babel. (Example: PPM= ECx500 or ECx640 or ECx700 or ECx768. Are we confused yet?) Stick to EC. I have the BlueLab EC truncheon and I love it but, now that I've finished a grow, I wonder if I really needed it. EC and pH move in opposite directions. My $5 aquarium pH test kit tells me which way the pH is going. Did I really need to spend $135 to see the EC move the other way?

Use the "Search this Forum" feature in Harvesting. Click Advanced and then search by TITLES ONLY for "water cure" Soak for 7 days in barely warmish water (too cold makes trichs brittle, too hot makes them soft. Either makes them break or rub off) Change water every day. Any container large enough will do. I've used drinking glasses when curing a stem or two. Note the screen material I've used is NOT required. Just makes it easy to remove the material from the tub for water changes. Material will float for a few days. Some weigh it down, I use a small sheet of "egg crate" (floro light diffuser from the Depot) Fill tub to over flowing, insert material (more overflowing) insert egg crate as a spacer. Place top on tub. The 1/4 inch egg crate keeps the material submerged.

Normally you dry as slow as possible. With a water cure you want to dry fast to prevent mold. Some use a dehydrator. I string mine up in front of a big ol' box fan. Small buds dry in a day. Bigger ones may take two.

:wave:
 

yeknomssa

Member
wow man, thanks for the swift reply. and detailed too! so what you're saying about EC and pH would save me $100+ on a fun new tool. but basically i could just pH test my source water and the runoff water from the cure, and once the runoff pH is about the source pH, the cure is done? wow sounds much simpler and cheaper that way. i'll dig around the harvest forum some more, but i've got a couple months to prepare heh. now i noticed that you didn't the buds off the stems, i don't know which way is better for water cure, but i was wondering what your reasonings behind that were.
 

FreezerBoy

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yeknomssa said:
wow man, thanks for the swift reply. and detailed too! so what you're saying about EC and pH would save me $100+ on a fun new tool. but basically i could just pH test my source water and the runoff water from the cure, and once the runoff pH is about the source pH, the cure is done? wow sounds much simpler and cheaper that way. i'll dig around the harvest forum some more, but i've got a couple months to prepare heh. now i noticed that you didn't the buds off the stems, i don't know which way is better for water cure, but i was wondering what your reasonings behind that were.

Boy did I misunderstand your question completly :badday:. pH and EC are for measuring your nutrient solution; They have nothing to do with water cures.

All you need for a water cure is water straight from the tap. No need to measure anything other than temperature. Barely warm or just a notch or two above "no longer cold."

I left buds on the stems because they like to float the first 3 days or so. Weighing down individual buds would be an insane amount of work. Keeping them on the stems makes it easier to manage in bulk. The screen allows me to remove the buds from the tub all at once (reducing trich loss from friction) before I dump the tub water. Same with returning them to the tub after it's filled with fresh water.
 

FreezerBoy

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Indica Sativa said:
:muahaha: Absolutely amazing FreezerBoy!

Thanks Indica. And thanks for the kind ref to Farmer John in my guestbook. I got a bit of hatemail for that but, when they don't understand 2+2=4 or "the whole equals the sum of it's parts" I didn't know where else to go.
:wave:
 

yeknomssa

Member
FreezerBoy said:
Boy did I misunderstand your question completly :badday:. pH and EC are for measuring your nutrient solution; They have nothing to do with water cures.

All you need for a water cure is water straight from the tap. No need to measure anything other than temperature. Barely warm or just a notch or two above "no longer cold."

I left buds on the stems because they like to float the first 3 days or so. Weighing down individual buds would be an insane amount of work. Keeping them on the stems makes it easier to manage in bulk. The screen allows me to remove the buds from the tub all at once (reducing trich loss from friction) before I dump the tub water. Same with returning them to the tub after it's filled with fresh water.

AH! okay heh. sorry, didn't mean to confuse you. i had read in some other threads (the ones you helped point me to in fact) about measuring the PPM of the waste water when you change it out every day, and once the PPM of the water coming out gets closer to the PPM of the water coming in, you're done curing. that's what i was asking about. but from what you say, it really doesn't even matter, just 7 days in room temperature water (like 72F), changing it every ~24h. wow that's really simple. thanks a bunch for clearing that up for me.

As for going hydro, i would find the investment in an EC meter worth while for learning, even if its not necessary for a great grow. It'll be fun when i can work up the courage to take the plunge, lol. but in the mean time, i'll be content to sit back and watch great growers like you show me how its done.
 

FreezerBoy

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Well, I'm just feeling dumb and dumber. I thought you meant adjusting the water you were going to cure with. Now that you spelled it out for me, it makes perfect sense. I think I'll go measure now just for fun.
 

FreezerBoy

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Thanks, GM and :wave: Welcome aboard. I'll take credit for growing in a freezer but, everything else that made this crop stand out (DWC, ScROG and CMH) I learned right here at IC.
 

yeknomssa

Member
FreezerBoy said:
Well, I'm just feeling dumb and dumber. I thought you meant adjusting the water you were going to cure with. Now that you spelled it out for me, it makes perfect sense. I think I'll go measure now just for fun.

Ha ha, no big deal. misunderstandings happen easily on the internet. i'll be measuring mine for curiosity's sake, but its good to know that you've been doing it all this time without the need to test the waste water. makes it less likely for me to screw something up :bashhead:
 

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