2023 subtropical garden

[OntologicalTurn]

Destroyer 1

Western Winds tall pheno

CBG Mangobiche kush (Mangobiche x peyote purple) in veg

Oldtimers Haze x Zamaldelica 1

all this bed

Super Malawi Haze 1

Super Malawi Haze 2

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Destroyer 2

Zacatecas Tribute

Reina madre (Queen mother)

Western Winds compacto pheno 1

Zamaldelicas x Kali China

All in this bed with a Zenith clone recently transplantes, and an accidental Cross of súper lemon haze in late flowering

 

[OntologicalTurn]

New Caledonia

Oldtimers Haze x Zamaldelica 2

Western Winds Compacto pheno 2

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Zenith

Western winds Compacto pheno 3

Old timers haze 1

Little Freakshow x sensi durban seeded with Zacatecas Tribute pollen

Zamal Kalite Tizane

Clone from same KT

 

[pipeline]

Awesome garden! Got a few early ones to harvest! Love all the great lines and hybrids very interesting grow. How are they so tall and flowering already? I guess thats normal in the southern latitudes? Thanks for sharing some pics! What is your favorite? Anything stand out?

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Awesome garden! Got a few early ones to harvest! Love all the great lines and hybrids very interesting grow. How are they so tall and flowering already? I guess thats normal in the southern latitudes? Thanks for sharing some pics! What is your favorite? Anything stand out?

Well is the thing about growing in the subtropics, anything that isnt a pure sativa will start flowering almost as soon as you put them outside. I like to started indoors ti give them a extra boost of veg, other way hybrids grow short, but the good thing is you can have a perpetual garden with, with plants in diferent stages of grow, at leastas the rain season permits

About favoritos, i don't know yet, most of this strains it will be the first time i grow it or smoke it (but i have plenty of clones now to preserve, and some pollen to make some repros) from what i have flowering i AM very curioso to smoke the Zac Tribute, have a very nice smell, the Zenith , and the western winds (the 2phenos i have, one tall and 3 compacts hace exactly the same delicious smell) I am kurious as well about Kalite Tizane

 

[NOREGRETZ]

Bueno, lo que pasa con el cultivo en los subtrópicos, cualquier cosa que no sea una sativa pura comenzará a florecer casi tan pronto como las pongas afuera. Me gusta empezar en el interior para darles un impulso extra de verduras, de lo contrario, los híbridos crecen cortos, pero lo bueno es que puedes tener un jardín perpetuo con plantas en diferentes etapas de crecimiento, al menos cuando la temporada de lluvias lo permita.

Sobre las favoritas, aún no lo sé, la mayoría de estas variedades serán la primera vez que las cultivo o las fumo (pero ahora tengo muchos clones para preservar, y algo de polen para hacer algunas repros) de lo que tengo en floración. SOY muy curioso fumar el Zac Tribute, tiene un olor muy agradable, el Zenith y los vientos del oeste (los 2 fenotipos que tengo, uno alto y 3 compactos tienen exactamente el mismo olor delicioso) También tengo curiosidad sobre Kalite Tizane

El k1 no se ve tan salvaje como lo he visto en otras fotos, supongo que el zacatecas floreció muy pronto aquí en México?

 

[OntologicalTurn]

El k1 no se ve tan salvaje como lo he visto en otras fotos, supongo que el zacatecas floreció muy pronto aquí en México?

Si, supongo que es por la ascendencia afgana original del híbrido Big Sur holy weed -supuesto cruce de un monje de dicha localidad entre una planta que unos dicen que era de Zacatecas y otros que de unos cocos de una mota callejera de Nayarit (Puerto Vallarta?, Sayulita? ) Cruzada x un indica afgana o pakistaní, que luego cruzaron con una versión de la Oaxaqueña morada que tenía vermontman. Igual no la plante pensando que era una landrace pura. Tengo bastantes cocos oaxaqueños recogidos por mi mismo. Y no me defraudó tampoco, la Zacatecas Tribute tiene un olor muy delicioso.

Sobre la KT, supongo que te refieres a las que mostró el chileno truhan en un hilo por aquí? Sospecho que truhan se confundió de etiqueta entre la mango zamal y la zamal kt pues esas plantas con hoja súper estrecha que se muestra se parecen más a las fotos que aparecen en la página de French touch como mango zamal mientras que en la kt aparece esa hoja legeramente redondeada con forma de estrella de la kt. Además Truhan planta en Chile, un clima templado con mayores variaciones estacionarias, más similar al europeo (aunque invertido) que al de la isla Reunión o Mexico ambos en la zona intertropical.

La madre kt se le aplicó un last severo mientras Grecia, básicamente está doblada a la mitad 2 veces porque se iba a volar la barda, tan solo por el tiempo de floración se la puso en febrero y apenas muestra signos de prefloracion, la considero una sativa pura.

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Zamaldelicas x Kali chinas are geting close, i don't know if it is a thing adaptación to the subtropics, but this plants look a lot more sativa dominant than their sisters in the zamaldelica x kalichina thread in the subforum, maybe climate/environmental conditions unlock some retro sativa traits as a way of adaptation?

 

[Old Ford]

Awesome read and wonderful to see Western Winds done in a warm climate !!
Im in the UK , a huge Western Winds fan and run her regularly in light dep , i only seem to find the compact pheno but that could be down to luck or the cooler climate.
Either way i can produce good solid decent end product that id full of flavour.
Also a fan of some ofhe crosses from it , like Mango Chutney , in fact i just ordered a pack last night strangely enough. Also have a few of OSG's Strawberry Mist but not ran them yet as not fit enough to work them this year.
I will find some pics of my last run.

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Awesome read and wonderful to see Western Winds done in a warm climate !!
Im in the UK , a huge Western Winds fan and run her regularly in light dep , i only seem to find the compact pheno but that could be down to luck or the cooler climate.
Either way i can produce good solid decent end product that id full of flavour.
Also a fan of some ofhe crosses from it , like Mango Chutney , in fact i just ordered a pack last night strangely enough. Also have a few of OSG's Strawberry Mist but not ran them yet as not fit enough to work them this year.
I will find some pics of my last run.

Nice plants there! I tan strawberry mist last year, and i was kind of disaponted, she started flowering same week i put them outdoors, almost no stretch in my latitude, which indicates me strong indica influencia, traste was ok aswell as trich production but i didnt find the effect as clean and active as i was trying to find.
First western winds i transplantes is almost ready, as a veteran with this strain what You think a couple of weeks more? Trichomes in the microscopio are mostly cloudy with some amber but some new ones aswell

I pollinate lower buds of this one with a Zacatecas Tribute boy.

Plan to pollinate others with destroyer and oldtimers haze males

 

[Old Ford]

Nice plants there! I tan strawberry mist last year, and i was kind of disaponted, she started flowering same week i put them outdoors, almost no stretch in my latitude, which indicates me strong indica influencia, traste was ok aswell as trich production but i didnt find the effect as clean and active as i was trying to find.
First western winds i transplantes is almost ready, as a veteran with this strain what You think a couple of weeks more? Trichomes in the microscopio are mostly cloudy with some amber but some new ones aswell View attachment 18867101

View attachment 18867102
I pollinate lower buds of this one with a Zacatecas Tribute boy.

Plan to pollinate others with destroyer and oldtimers haze males

Very nice sir. I owuld love the ability to just put them out and let them go , sadly its hard graft here.
Look like you could push her on happily for a few weeks, i like mine well cooked as you can see lol
Not so good news on the OSG strawberry , will give her a run and see how we go as i got the beans anyway. Thanks for the pics its good to see them in a nice climate for a change sir. All the best with it sir and will be keeping an eye out for the final flourish shots.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Well is the thing about growing in the subtropics, anything that isnt a pure sativa will start flowering almost as soon as you put them outside. I like to started indoors ti give them a extra boost of veg, other way hybrids grow short, but the good thing is you can have a perpetual garden with, with plants in diferent stages of grow, at leastas the rain season permits

Lovely grow here, OntologicalTurn!

I saw the title 'subtropical' and wanted to ask you a bit about this, flowering and light periods, etc., to learn from your experience.

May I ask what your latitude is? Just approx, as I'm assuming you don't want to give away location, right?
I'm a bit above the tropic of cancer, about 24N or so. My midsummer is about 13.5/10.5, and reverse in winter solstice 10.5/13.5. I've mostly grown autos here, but the photos I've done suggest to me that yes, they just went into flowering straight away once they were mature enough (like 4-6 weeks or so). But those were all hybrids, some leaning sati-dom though.

And also you mention rain season, which is a massive factor for me here. Do you know what Geiger-Kloppen climate type you are? I'm in a Cfa -- hot summer no dry season. Studying local climate data to figure out my best harvest window based on low(est) rainfall. How about you? If the sativas don't just flower straight away, how do you plan / schedule to get them to mature in the dry periods outside the heavy rains?

I'm planning on a few Himalayan cultivars that are from north enough that they should respond to photoperiod, but also some Laos cultivars that I suspect won't care much about the light times. So trying figure out how to plan things. Any advice or experience you have greatly appreciated!!

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Lovely grow here, OntologicalTurn!

I saw the title 'subtropical' and wanted to ask you a bit about this, flowering and light periods, etc., to learn from your experience.

May I ask what your latitude is? Just approx, as I'm assuming you don't want to give away location, right?
I'm a bit above the tropic of cancer, about 24N or so. My midsummer is about 13.5/10.5, and reverse in winter solstice 10.5/13.5. I've mostly grown autos here, but the photos I've done suggest to me that yes, they just went into flowering straight away once they were mature enough (like 4-6 weeks or so). But those were all hybrids, some leaning sati-dom though.

And also you mention rain season, which is a massive factor for me here. Do you know what Geiger-Kloppen climate type you are? I'm in a Cfa -- hot summer no dry season. Studying local climate data to figure out my best harvest window based on low(est) rainfall. How about you? If the sativas don't just flower straight away, how do you plan / schedule to get them to mature in the dry periods outside the heavy rains?

I'm planning on a few Himalayan cultivars that are from north enough that they should respond to photoperiod, but also some Laos cultivars that I suspect won't care much about the light times. So trying figure out how to plan things. Any advice or experience you have greatly appreciated!!

Hi María my climate is Cwb. I already give You some advices in you subtropics post months algo. The sativas don't flower straight, at least if they are real sativas. I never had growth autos, but i really think theres no need to do that in this lattitudes since most of the hybrids and indicas behave like autos here. Sativas don't need tu much care in this climate just keep them water in the dry season and some feeding, their loose flower are good against molds, an their flexibility in the stem can resist the wind.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Hi María my climate is Cwb. I already give You some advices in you subtropics post months algo. The sativas don't flower straight, at least if they are real sativas. I never had growth autos, but i really think theres no need to do that in this lattitudes since nos of the hybrids and indicas behave like autos here. Sativas don't need tu much care in this climate just keep them water in the dry season and some feeding, their loose flower are good against molds, an their flexibility in the stem can resist the wind.

Thanks OT for the reply. I remember what you said last time, but I'm always trying to learn more, and you seem to a have a lot of experience with sativas outdoors in this latitude.

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Reina madre 2 weeks of flowering and showing Nice trichomes

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Super Malawi Haze 2 still growing, no signs of flowering yet

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Siesta

 

[Eltitoguay]

Siesta
View attachment 18870351

Je, je... No debes tener mucho calor, para que sesteen al sol... Los mios cavan agujeros en las sombras más tupidas, y desaparecen de la vista desde las 12 hasta las 19, je...
El/la mayor, parece tener sangre de Mastín Español o similar, ¿no?.

Suerte y salud.

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Je, je... No debes tener mucho calor, para que sesteen al sol... Los mios cavan agujeros en las sombras más tupidas, y desaparecen de la vista desde las 12 hasta las 19, je...
El/la mayor, parece tener sangre de Mastín Español o similar, ¿no?.

Suerte y salud.

Afortunadamente ya pasaron las olas de calor y llegaron las lluvias, así que está más fresco que el mes pasado. Igual hacen agujeros si tienen la oportunidad.

Los 3 son mestizos callejeros como yo, igual la foto no deja ver bien sus dimensiones pero no es tan grande, sospecho que Miel tiene algo de pittbull y labrador pero no hay forma de saberlo con seguridad