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2013- Am I just stoned - or - What ?<~> Im going to be rich and stuff...

2013- Am I just stoned - or - What ?&lt;~&gt; Im going to be rich and stuff...


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DamnUglyDogE

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How about them prices and can a person still make a living in todays marijuana market ?


Welcome to the club of dank smoke filled dreams of growing weed and getting payed to live the dream..

I had the this desire ta go green and make a killing at it.
Truth is.. Not so easy ta do.. Never really was..

Legally at least..(semi-legal)

Living in California and a long time stoner I've watched and learned a lot about cost of making good bud and the pay off at the end for most people.
Over the last couple of years...

A start up collective would run ya $15-$25 Grand- This is after ya pay the state $8-$15 grand for the right to do so...

Turn key collective- Your talking $35-$80 K and good luck keeping their growers/supply chain...
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MED size grows to supply yourself..
100+ plants indoor. .
$2-$4 k a month on just electricity not ta mention all the other cost ..

I could go on..lol $$$$$..

Then what... Now you have 100 + pound's of the best nugs anyone has ever seen.
Where ? Your house-a friends place.. Thats a lot of smells and bulk to hide and move around...

Have ya ever driven around town with 6 pounds of stank in the trunk.
Not so much fun..

Cops dont care about a doctors rec. When they see ya with a LB or more.
It's jail time my friend..
not to mention the question (where do you live again)
Which they will ask.. Then go visit before u get bailed out.

Ok.. so none of that happens to you... great.. I'll give you $1100 a LB...
$200 more than I give anyone eles.. Cause yours is pure Fire..

Guess what.. You'll say no and sit on it cause no one will give more than me and your to proud to sell so cheap..

Hows that 100lb of Dankness smelling after a year in the closet.
Oh only 40lbs left cause of Mold.. dang son..

I'll give you $200 a pound for what's left..

You'll take it just so you can start growing for fun again..

Just my 2 cents...

You could choose ta just...
Move to Humboldt county and live a good life with good people..




Cause - Market prices are going ta be a tuff call a years ahead.
Why ?

The Markets Black VS Grey...


Black Market as all avenues to the hook up are location & demand driven as price goes.

Where there are a lot of collectives near by.
Black market guys are just people that cant sell there massive amounts of weed for even the cost of growing it.
You can find $60 OZ at a lot of collectives right now.

Take your stuff- 50 miles from a collective and you can make (At cost)money.
100 miles and ya got a little profits (you get the idea)

I guess you can say.. Right now. .
The whole marijuana issue is in a flux.

We - as a nation and as a state (CA)have hit both extremes with prices.
Super high 3 years ago ta super low today.
(You can thank the outdoor and 1000+ indoor guys that thought the prices would stay high this winter)

Ops...

Try sitting and moving 1000 plants worth of stank..lol
I'll take it all off ya hands for $300 a pound..

Thats how collectives get ta sell $60 oz.. Ops...

The B.M. and collectives are competitors and seem to be doing a supply and demand game..

If a collective wont drop the price or pay more for what I want to give them.
I as a grower will take my nugs a block away and under sell your collective till ya pay me more or your out of business.
But..
If I cant under sell you because you dropped prices, then I sell to you at cheap or smoke a lot more weed everyday.. (sit on it)

This will change again next winter and for a few more year's with less extreme fluxes.

As there are a lot less 1000+ and huge outdoor people this season.

Call it a lessons learned year..

That and more states are Medical and a few are legal.
New short lived opportunities ta make a career with pot.(career meaning-semi legal~pay taxes)

All the while. . There's the federal issue causing havoc-
Lots of good people done gone behind the steel bars of injustice.
Due to their desire and dreams of getting rich this year.

Imagine... Beating all the odds..
You grow ya 1000 and are heading ta get payed.
Sold, easy life, here you come....
Bam..
pulled over for no turn signal. .

1000 lbs = 25 ta life. . So close...

Has happened more than once this year...

Back to the market..lol

Prices next year will be as close to stable as you'll see for then next 5-6..

Winter 2013 Will be a good idea of what you can really make selling/collecting donations for the next few years, till marijuana becomes legal on the federal level. Which Legal is not the right term.. (Thats another book- so I'll skip it)

And yes the state takes a ton of cash ta let ya grow 99 and sell is another ton of cash THEN they tax what you sell till you save a ton of money and then they call the feds and have them bust you and take that cash and put ya butt in prison so theres room for the next guy with fresh fees and start the game again..

Sucks.. No...

For me..

Weed is worth what im not paying for weed after the cost of me growing it.

Till a month ago..
I was paying $300 a oz once a month.
Now im sitting on lots of good weed for personal use.

My weed is worth $300 minus cost..
So..
$225 a oz (around) is it's worth...
But...
Im making 11, 000 + seeds which are priceless. .lol

My cost to make the same oz next season drops and my weed next year and beyond is worth $275..+...

Not to mention its safe and easier to sell/trade and move seeds...
Or..
The smart move...
Spend a few years and make better seeds/strains and
be remebered forever as the guy that created that strain.

EPIC...




OR Maybe im just stoned...
 

Canniwhatsis

High country cat herder
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Your probably just that stoned!!!! :tiphat:




Or maybe I'm just that stoned?.... which would be odd because I don't smoke and my lady isn't ready to harvest,...... :?


Cali is where it's at, or so I've heard..... Not sure,... maybe just north? Washington?





Im making 11, 000 + seeds which are priceless. .lol


Well shit,... if your weed is seeded it's worthless so no surprise!?!??


Or are you trying to brag yourself up as a breeder?

Sorry everybody seems to be a breeder nowadays, us few GROWERS will tell the difference.... and if you've done your homework as a breeder you will be able to meet certain demands.


Those demands tho,... they come from the community of patients, thus placed upon the GROWERS,... who then have to rely on a breeder to provide quality genetics that do what their supposed to.



Are you "That guy who created that strain"? Or are you just another in a long line of pollen huckers with off chance hermie pollen making hermie seeds?
 

Canniwhatsis

High country cat herder
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Wasn't meant as an attack,.... just a reality check for those stoners out there that think they can breed just because they got some clean buds off of bag seed.....
 

DamnUglyDogE

Learning the rules well,so as to break them effect
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Your probably just that stoned!!!! :tiphat:
Or maybe I'm just that stoned?.... which would be odd because I don't smoke and my lady isn't ready to harvest,...... :?
Cali is where it's at, or so I've heard..... Not sure,... maybe just north? Washington?
Well shit,... if your weed is seeded it's worthless so no surprise!?!??
Or are you trying to brag yourself up as a breeder?

Sorry everybody seems to be a breeder nowadays, us few GROWERS will tell the difference.... and if you've done your homework as a breeder you will be able to meet certain demands.

Those demands tho,... they come from the community of patients, thus placed upon the GROWERS,... who then have to rely on a breeder to provide quality genetics that do what their supposed to.



Are you "That guy who created that strain"? Or are you just another in a long line of pollen huckers with off chance hermie pollen making hermie seeds?

Awesome 1st response Canni...

California IS the place to be.. Thats 100% solid... Any part of Cali...

I'm just a grower and a newbie thats proudly so..

My seeds gotten already as we'll as the seeds coming are by no means hermie.
Documented-Proven-pollenated little nugs of gold...lol

Simply talking about a 1000 seeds a plant for 11, 000 seed goal.
Not much to brag about there..

Im not even close to a breeder...
Though...

Im on season 2 of a 5 year plan that teaches me the skills and experiences needed inorder to begin a Breeding career.

Not a Breeder- Cannabis Colavator - Fits better..

I strive to be "that guy" No doubt.. Give me 10 years...
My 11K beans are ta practice Phenom hunting (Season 3)
As well as my vast collection ta be...lol

I just realized I would make a good Realty show.. Seasons 1-5

~~~ Evolution of a Cannabis Colavator ~~~

That's. .. The California in me...

The moral of this post is..... (long pause)

The smart path to making a career with marijuana in the United States is...

Not always the quickest or easiest path...
Possible in more ways than growing tons of dank buds over and over.
Can be a benefit to the community rather than a drain on..

Benefit- Creat strains that heal and pass along genetics that take growers to another level...

Drain- 3000 ladies grown in our forest with chems-trash-molds ect. Left behind..
Dank buds and or the cash taken to other States/countrys.
Which means the $ is not put back into the community there by recouping the cost ta clean the mess..

2nd morale issue being..

Dont go getting over your head as a new grower and end up either..
Broke chasing the quick buck.
In jail before or after ya make bank..

Being a millionaire is worthless in a prison. IMO...


OKAY. . We just Confirmed that im stoned...

These sativas are doing a number on me... Whee...

No im not trying ta brag myself up..
Just trying ta have this exact conversation with good people..

The girlfriend hates when I start talking to her about Stuff...

Things ta think about...
 

DamnUglyDogE

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Wasn't meant as an attack,.... just a reality check for those stoners out there that think they can breed just because they got some clean buds off of bag seed.....

Not taken as one at all...
Ya point was clear and we'll stated..

:tiphat::biggrin:
 

DamnUglyDogE

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In the interest of full disclosure...

This 1st post came from a conversation I had today on another thread that just morphed into a thought and became this thread...
If that makes any scence..
 

skullznroses

that aint nothing but 10 cent lovin
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weed bender much? Yeah it all makes sense. As it did last year and the year before that lol
 
You sound so smart...are obviously going to be a billionaire...every woman will want you every man will want to be you.

Since you are superior to many you should bypass the ganja and sell sperm
 

DamnUglyDogE

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You sound so smart...are obviously going to be a billionaire...every woman will want you every man will want to be you.

Since you are superior to many you should bypass the ganja and sell sperm

Money really means very little to me.. Ill pass on chasing that type O green...
Kinda one of my points (I thought)

Every woman already wants me the way I am...:biggrin:

Superior ta no one Yet smart enough to achieve goals.
Follow others leads and stick to a path...

:dance013:

Sperm bank ...... Thats not a bad idea at all.. Top shelf swimmers :)biggrin:) Thanks..
:ying:
 
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