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2000 watts on a single 120v outlet?

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Surfr

I have been searching now a for a while but cannot find what I am looking for.. Is there a way to run almost 200 watts on a single 120v outlet? The room I am going to be using only has one outlet! I will be running one 1000 watt HPS, a 400 MH, and a couple fans... I am afraid of overloading the outlet. Is there any solution to this? Thank you in advance!

Surfr

Edit: I was looking at http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=HLLAILS4120&eq=&Tp=, but I am not exactly sure how it works. Is there just a single cord that plugs into the outlet then you can run a couple thousand watts from the box??
 

phattybudz

Member
you will probably blow the breaker, but only one way to find out. Try it, worst case scenario a breaker blows and you have to reset it.
 
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Eminem

I am going to say no but it may be close. Depends on the rating of the circuit.

120V x 20 amps = 2400 Watts.

120V x15 amps = 1800 watts


Also keep in mind any load over 3 hours I believe is considered continuous and should be run at 80% of the circuit capacity. In the 20 amp case, it would be 19,200 watts which may put you at the edge.

I wouldnt use one outlet either
 

Aeroguerilla

I’m God’s solider, devil’s apostle
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it will work on a 20 amp as long as nothing else is on the circuit but i like to run at 80% like stated above so most u can do off 20amp is a 1000 and 600
 
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masterKahn

Can you run a extension cord from somewhere else? Risking fires in your grow room is not something you should play with. Worst case run the 1000w alone.
 
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Surfr

Hmmmm.. Thanks for the info so far! Do you guys think it would be ok to run a 600 and a 400 off the single outlet instead of the 1000? I have a feeling it's probably 15amp because it's a slightly older home..
 

phattybudz

Member
TRY IT!

No way to know unless you plug that shit in. It will blow a breaker if it's too much and you can reset it.
 
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Surfr

TRY IT!

No way to know unless you plug that shit in. It will blow a breaker if it's too much and you can reset it.

I would love to, BUT, I have been out of the grow scene for a few years so I am getting ready to order a bunch of new equipment, so I can't try it.. Wish I could, though.. I am trying to figure out what I should order, I guess I should go the safe route and just use a 600 and a 400 for now till I move into a newer place..
 

accessndx

♫All I want to do is zoom-a-zoom-zoom-zoom..
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Why not just get a 600, and put it on a light rail or a sun circle? When you feel comfortable...add the other light in. Betcha you can run 2 600s though....definitely 2 400s...with the rails or circle...you've got better coverage than with a much larger light even.
 
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Surfr

Why not just get a 600, and put it on a light rail or a sun circle? When you feel comfortable...add the other light in. Betcha you can run 2 600s though....definitely 2 400s...with the rails or circle...you've got better coverage than with a much larger light even.

I will be growing in a cab so I think I will stick with a 600.. The cab is going to be 4'x4' with a 6 or 9 plant SCROG to maximize yield by utilizing space.
 

NorCalFor20

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i think ull be ok, today i hooked up a total of: 2 x 1000w HPS light, 1x 400w HPS, 2 6 inch vortex, and 2 8 inch oscillating fans all on one circuit. Not to mention my hydroponics system has pumps that cut on and off peridocically.... not saying your gonna be able to hook up all this at once but maybe its a little peice of mind ... if not the worst case seneraio is u have to flip the breaker....
 
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Surfr

Well I just moved into the place today and found out that the whole house is on only ONE 20 amp circuit! The house is pretty small and the only other things that would be plugged in would be TV, DVD player, computer, fridge and the lights in the house.. Do you think it would be safe to run a 600, 400, and one fan??

Or should I just sucks it up and run a 400 and a 250( which I REALLY don't want to do)???
 
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milehighmedical

Whoa whoa whoa... people are saying some un-safe stuff here.

You can only run about 1400 watts safely on a 15 amp outlet/circuit, and 1800 on a 20 amp circuit. But a 20 amp circuit will normally have several 15 amp outlets on it, so you still can't put 1800 watts into one outlet. You'll have to use two different outlets on one circuit.

If you just use your computer, tv, dvd player, and lights when your HID's are off. But you're fridge could be quite a bit. In fact, without any grow equipment at all you could pop your breaker. I wouldn't grow in a house w/ only one 20 amp circuit. Maybe just one 250 watt w/ a 4" fan safely.
 

Jnugg

Active member
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You can easily get by on a 15 amp circuit with 1x 1kw HID 1-2 exhuast fans and some pumps if need be.

1000w/120v = 8.3 amps

15 amps x 120v = 1800w

80% safeload of a 15 amp circuit = 12 amps

12 amps x 120v = 1440w

Don't go above 1400w and you should be fine.

Get a surge protector (sp?) to plug everything into.

I don't think you'd be happy with only 1x 600w HID in a 16 square foot area as that will only give you 37.5w per square foot and 5937 lumens per square foot.A 1000w HID will give off 62.5w per square foot and about 9000 lumens per square foot.

If you were to get 1x 1000w HID and a 6" exhuast fan that is rated 150w that's only 1150w.

Again I vote 1x 1000w HPS.
 
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sparkjumper

The way I always did it when working in the field was when you are sizing wire by adding loads you should never go by the wattage of the fixture or appliance,only the nameplate rating in amps.Believe me man you will come out with different and incorrect calculations using the wattage of a certain fixture or appliance as opposed to using the nameplate amperage rating.My 1K vertizontals dont use 1000W of power to be applied to ohms law it uses 4.5amps.FRom there its simple you dont want to exceed 80% of the wire rating in amps.All calculations are done using nameplate amperage and wattage should never even be in the picture it'll provide inaccurate info.
 

madpenguin

Member
Sounds like you need to run a new circuit. Not only for your grow but for your fridge as well. Also sounds like an old house that's probably fed with Knob & Tube wiring.

Guessing is all anyone can do without more specifics. You are getting over zealous with your plans. If all you have is one 20A circuit (that's probably on 15A rated wire), then your fridge compressor would probably kick the breaker even if you were only running one smaller light, let alone what you want to do.

Old work some new circuits!
 

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