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2 x 250W dual cabinet

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supergeek

It's been around 3 years since I grown and I've also only smoked a couple of times during this time. But now I sorta got hooked again :yummy:

I thought about it a long time and have had many plans until I decided to build this.

It's a dual chamber SCROG cabinet with chamber measuring 60x60x150cm (about 2x2x5 feet). That's the volume of the growing areas, the upper ventilation area is not included in these figures.

I built the cabinet inside a closet and its was hard to get any good photos because of the tight space but heres what I got:

First, a 3d image that shows the whole cabinet (impossible to photograph).




I built only 2 intakes per chamber instead of 4 which is quite enuff. This way the total intake area is 4 times the exhaust area.

The idea is to ventilate both chambers with just one fan. Air from both chambers is sucked into the upper left sound proofed box and further through the fan into the carbon filter and out through a hole in the roof. The space where the fan and filter is, is also sound proofed using the same 1 inch material. (see in pics below). So yes, I am pushing air through my filter, but it seems to work a charm!




Both the filter and fan are suspended using a rubber kind of bungee cord.




The fan is a systemair 125 m3/h. Have to wait and see if that's enuff power.




To the left is the "suction chamber" with a light trap (two 90 degree PVC elbows painted black inside). You can just about see the exhaust from the left chamber which will be for flowering using a 250W HPS.




Better view of the suction chamber. The insulation material is glued and stapled to the wooden frame.




The left chamber (bloom). B/W poly on the walls (not on door yet, that's on the still-to-do list). Same PVC light trap for air intake, works perfectly!
I will probaly mount a couple of computer fans above the intake to blow upwards throgh the scrog screen to help with air movement.




A shot from below looking up at the exhaust of the bloom chamber.




Here I installed the 250W MH in the right (veg) chamber to test the timer and check the temperature. Notice there is only one 90 degree PVC elbow here for each intake as I had to sacrifice two for the suction chamber. Didn't anticipate the light leek there at first. But 2 are enuff, there is absolutely no light leakage through the intakes.




With the 250W MH on for an hour and the fan running the temp was 75.6F (the 80.2 comes from a probe that was hanging just above the lamp).
That is about 24 degrees C.

Temps will rise when I add the 250W HPS but I will also seal the suction chamber completely for improved airflow.




Quite a mess on the roof at the moment, but you see the exhaust hole and the two ballasts and a fan that I'll probably use to "exhaust the exhaust air" out the closet into my apartment. I can leave the door open to the closet all day (and night) to improve air exhange and the fan will probably help getting the hot air quickly out of the closet.

There is a window that I light proofed but I'll probably need to keep it open during summer at least. Gotta remember to close it though before opening the cabinet :yoinks:


Still to do is seal the suction chamber, put b/w poly on the doors, build the scrog screens and germinate some seeds.

Oh, almost forgot... This will be a DWC setup with one plant in each chamber. The buckets are 4.5 gallon and I have some very nice and quiet Schego airpumps for them. First run from seed will be in soil though, to find a good female to take cuttings from and place in the bubblers.

The plan is to start filling the screen in the veg chamber under the MH light. When it's time to flower I just move the whole screen into the bloom chamber, take a few cuttings, place them in the veg chamber in a bubble cloner and when rooted, select the best looking clone and start filling a new screen. Time will tell how this will work out.

Nutes will be GH in the first soil run, then HESI hydro in the bubblers.

I'll be back with updates, hopefully soon.
 
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GMT

The Tri Guy
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Hi, looks like you're putting the effort in. Only thing I can add is, and it maybe an obvious point, but make sure that you use the same length of ducting from each cab to the suction area on the top left, even if it means leaving a length of ducting inside the left hand chamber. Just makes sure you get equal air flow. Not sure why you want 2 separate chamber though. Do you plan of doing some breeding work? Or is it a veg / flower design.
 
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supergeek

Yeah, I have a few grows under my belt with varying results so I though I'd put a little more into this one. I've thought about the length of the ducting and maybe didn't realize how important that is for equal flow. Thanx for the reminder, I'll fix it.

I might do some breeding down the line, have done it before and I find it very interesting, but the main reason for two chambers is to have kind of an on-going system that can yield every 1.5 - 2 months.

I forgot to mention how well the sound insulation works. 5 feet from the cabinet I can hear NOTHING. It's super quiet!
 
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supergeek

Here's an update on my project.

I've germinated 5 PowerPlant x SuperSkunk seeds that were 3-4 years old. They all popped in 3 days using the wet papertowel method. I planted them today in small plastic cups in soil and as soon as they show themselves they are going under the MH.

I also finnished the first scrog screen, here's a pic:


I used a plastic coated metal wire that is for tieing down plants. Lots of work stringing the frame and my back hurts. More to come...
 

minds_I

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Hello all,

Nice work....it will pay off with plenty of buds for you.

I agree with the vent situation you have...When I first did my NGB style cab I initially did not vent each chanber seperately...this lead to climate control issues. During the winter, the temps are fine... its the summer thats the problem. I was able to keep temps in the cab down but that required me to keep the shed (a well insulated outbuilding) inside temps at 66*F....very expensive.

Now since I made changes to my vent system vent each chamber seprately, I can maintain flower cab temps at about 4*F above ambient....so I gained about 10*F with a setpoint now of 75*F...much cheaper then 66*F.

I can not emphasize enough about proper ventilation control.

Good luck with your grow friend and nice cab.

minds_I
 
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supergeek

Time for an update I guess. Its been 3 days since they showed above the ground and today I had to transplant them into bigger pots because lots of roots were touching the edges of the small plastic cups they were in.




So this is what is looks like right now. They are in 5 liter pots and the soil is mainly low nutrient airy soil for seedlings with some standard potting soil mixed in. Watered them some PH adjusted water (6.5).

The net they are standing on is only for placing pots on, not for scrog as the holes are only 1cm which I guess is a bit small for scrogging. This screen on the other hand allows more pots into the cabinet as they are above the air intakes which take up alot of space at the bottom.




3 day old PowerPlant x SuperSkunk




Another one




This one looks a litte freaky :pointlaug




Temps are just fine. The RH of 24% is a little low I guess but we'll see how this develops as water starts to evaporate from the pots.

Can't wait until the growth burst starts... as soon as the root system has devloped they will surely kick into gear!

I won't veg these for very long as the main goal is to find a good female to take cuttings for the DWC system. I will however flower the females I get from this bunch.

Later folks...
 
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supergeek

It's been a week and I thought I'd share a tip for those with noisy fans.
I added a couple of computer fans to better circulate the air and I had them screwd to the frame of the cabinet at first which generated a lot of noise, although the fans are of the very quiet type (19dB).

Instead I hanged them by strings with hooks on so that I can move them around easily. This elimnated all noise! This method can be used in scrog environments where there is enough room underneath the scrog net.

Here's a pic that shows what I did:



And here's a couple of pics of my little ones, now almost 2 weeks old and doing great!













Well, as this cabinet is all built now, I guess I'd better continue with this grow in another thread in another section as there will be no more construction as I can see. I'll post a link to the new thread so you can follow along.

Grow safe!
 
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Grownz

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Babies starting to spring up. Nice design! Good idea with the fans. I always use bungy cords to hang my fans. Cuts vibration right down.
 
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