2,500 watts used in rented house too much?

[CrunchNasty]

hello all i was brainstorming and was thinking about renting a house and place two 1,000 watt HID lights , a couple hundred watts of fluro , and 2 exhaust fans. but i was wondering if 2,500(approx amount proposing to use) watts is too much because im not trying to get caught and lose all my stuff , but it is a house....... and landlords cant come inside my house unless they have legit reason and id keep it ultra secret , but anyways i need some feedback from all u pro's out there that are already doing somthing similar to what i wanna do , i gotta keep my bases covered and i trust u guys because all the info uve given me so far has always been right , thanks guys =)

 

[Hippo]

u can do that np

 

[CrunchNasty]

koo

koo

sweet that makes me happy =) so exactly how much power could i use till i start to get near the stopping point?

 

[Hippo]

2500 watts isnt a problem atall, ive run 7000 in a house, but make sure u got ya electrics sorted 1st.
goodluck

 

[closetking]

Your wattage will actually be based on the current draw of your Ballasts. You'll be fine on modern house wiring, but a rented house with a landlord nearby.......

Any reason he can think of will allow him access to his property with reasonable notice to you. Tearing down a room in 24 hrs. may be tough.

Be very carefull

 

[Tropical Rain]

in other words you may understand is : Don't Over Dose

lol

goodluck man

later

 

[Forty-Six & 2]

I wouldn't worry too much about that much power. Just make sure you build your setup so that you can tear it down in 24 hours if need be. I used to have a 1000w DWC grow in an apartment and had to tear it down quick twice with no evidence left behind. It wasn't all that hard. Be a good Boy Scout and be prepared. Good luck.

Forty

 

[Guest]

I've had to quickly tear down a setup before too! Me and this guy did it in about 15 min. Lights dropped from the ceiling and all! You'd be surprised how fast you can do it when you've got to.

 

[ken]

yeah, as hippo said, best to get an electriction to look at that, you might not want to run it all on a single normal circuit, could blow a fuse. i heard ballests can draw x2 their normal power usage to start up.

but it shouldnt be any problem as far as arrousing suspicion at the power company or anything like that goes.

 

[closetking]

Stagger your "turn on" times of your equip in the same room unless sure they are on different phase/leg. Different timer for 2 lights and/or fans etc otherwise. Start surge is high, this will balance it and avoid premature circuit brkr/fuse failure. currnet draw on 1000 watt ballast is abt 9 amps @120 V. Startup is higher. Most house wiring has only 15 Amp cb for rooms. You can replace the breaker with a 20 ONLY if the wires to the room are rated for it. Usually written on the wiring insulation, I just can't remember the gage that is acceptable for 20 Amp.


By the way, at the above figures your ballast is using about 980 watts. 980x 12hrs. = 11,760 watts or 11.7kw/day x 30 = 353KW x 10cents per = $35.30 / month to run the light.

 

[8bitNES]

that much energy doesn't sound too unreasonable for me. just remember there are search warrants granted today for no other reason than a high electricity bill. sure, chances are that it wouldn't happen but its enough for my overly paranoid ass to not use that much energy, even in a house.

8bit

 

[Hooked-On-Grown]

Don't sweat it. I run 4-1000w HPS and my bill is around $350-$400 a month. Just always pay your bill on time. The electric company is not going to question getting more money a month from you. They prefer you use alot of energy!!!lol
Peace

 

[8bitNES]

holy shit! if i may, what state you in? in my state there have been quite a few busts already where the high bill was the icing on the cake although i don't know how much juice they were running.

8bit

 

[splif-magnet]

closetking

and all DO NOT be messing with your eletrics unless you KNOW what your doing;

I am a journyman sparky...HEHE,,,,

MOST houses i have seen (unless way old) are 20 AMP on #12 wire,,, IF you have #12 (and your are sure) go a head upgrade,, BUT IF your renting & growing,,, I would leave that alone..

max loads are as follows..\

#12 - 20 amp
#10- 30 amp


smoke your weed NOT your house!

 

[toofat]

splif-magnet, how much wattage can you run on a 30 amp breaker?

 

[splif-magnet]

watts on 30 AMP?? man that like will make me think.. shit I do not do a lot of lighting related issue's.. let me dust off that brain cell....

IF ANYONE eles has the calculaions handy,, go for it.. pulling out my calcu. now,,,lol

 

[splif-magnet]

ok...

heres MY mumbers..


1000 W / 115 V = 8.69 amps

you only want a 75% constant load... need to leave room for start up or surge current..

ok NOW,,, if you have a 30 AMP CKT you only want about 22 AMPs of constant draw.....

this means you can safely hook up 2.5 K watts per 30 amp CKT

BUT!! remember,,, IF you have say two 1000w or 3- 600 w you MUST stager the start up of your lights like by 15-30 min,,, they draw LOTS more on IGNITION......

 

[toofat]

Thanks

 

[closetking]

Don't try to convert the wattge from your bulbs to the current draw. Add up the rated current draw written on your ballasts, the math is done for you.

75% constant load is correct safety rating. My 1000 hortilux ballast draws about 9 amps, add the draw from my mover and fans and I have about 12 amps on a 20 amp ckt.
Stagger your on times if using more than 1, high draw on startup device (ballast), most modern ballasts level off after 3 mins. Easy to gage, just time how long b4 bulb is fully illuminated. Biggest problem with multi lite systems is what happens after a power loss. All ballasts fire up at same time. 2 lites max on a 30 amp ckt if you have power failures, only 1 on 20 amp setup.

I would not put a 30 amp ckt brkr on #12 wire. If you want 30 amp service you'll need to run the heavier gage

 

[splif-magnet]

closetking

I BEGG to differ,,, the wattage and the voltage is EXACTLY what gives you your AMP rating,,,

YOU DO USE the WATTAGE to figure the AMPS.....

see my last,,,

8.69 vice your 9... same diff just matters what voltage you caculate off of ... 110v-120v

just why 220v is more efficent IE half the amps....