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1st grow 4days flowering 250hps

bp420!

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Hey guys first time growing...i'm growing in a 1x3x3 stealth cabi conversion.

These are just bag seeds from a bag of good popcorn. I topped em the day before i flipped to 12/12.

How they looking so far?

I attached a couple pics of my cabinet and plants...you can see in one of the pics(right most plant) where my damn can chomped on my plant during a transplant lol

Oh yeah...almost forgot the day i flipped to 12/12 i also switched to 1/4 strength veg nutes and 1/2 bloom. I'm just using no name powdered nutes. 33-11-11 and 12-55-6.

How long should i keep giving them veg nutes?

I've been giving them nutes every watering and they seem to be doing fine but i thought i read somewhere you should feed every other time.
 

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DiscoBiscuit

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Hey guys first time growing...i'm growing in a 1x3x3 stealth cabi conversion.

Very slick. That 250 should get you a nice haul.

These are just bag seeds from a bag of good popcorn. I topped em the day before i flipped to 12/12.

How they looking so far?
They look good. Lights off might give a better representation, something to consider in the future

... 33-11-11 and 12-55-6.

How long should i keep giving them veg nutes?
It's hard to say because those are some rather unusual ratios for mj. Shultz brand? Generally speaking you need enough N to get through stretch, then you want it purged from the plant before harvest. I'm usually done with veg nutes no later than the first or second week of flower. If plants have a N def in early flower, I might supplement N along with the flower ferts. I would probably stop using the supplemental N 3 weeks before chop. In your case, I'm not so sure because 33 is pretty hot.

For now, just give it your best shot with what you have. You want those plants to be medium green with gradual yellowing (usually) the last third of flower. If they're too green, lay off the 33-11-11. If they're yellowing too early, you might have to use some. I might be over generalizing but hope you get what I'm trying to say.

I've been giving them nutes every watering and they seem to be doing fine but i thought i read somewhere you should feed every other time.
Every other water is typical of chemical nutes. No matter how well you get them mixed with water, there's always an amount of residual when the soil dries out. Build up is what you want to avoid as it causes lock out and/or the pH will be whacked.

I don't know what levels of micro nutes your ferts have. Among others, you'll most need calcium and magnesium. Some municipal water sources include calcium and epsom salts is a good mag supplement. You can mix it at one teaspoon per gal of water.
 

Mr.Bill

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They look relatively healthy even though they should be burned to a crisp. The setup is very stealth and nice. Them nutes though are all kinds of high and low. You sure your reading them numbers right? If you flipped em you can stop giving them veg nutes they should have more than enough nitrogen to get through stretch.

And you shouldn't go by so much of a feeding schedule as every other feeding and such recipes, but more of reading there wants and needs, but believe me, if them numbers that you said are right, I very highly doubt your going to need to feed every other feeding other than needing a little potassium(K) and most likely the micro nutrients.

I see lockouts in your future young o-b-one. Seriously. FEED CAREFULLY(if them numbers are right). I'm rocking one part formulas. 7-4-10 for veg and 4-8-7 for flower and two two day boosts of 0-55-10 once week 5 and week 6 of flower once I get there that is then flush. When I was flowering out using dirt(And trust me I've done dirt for years and years) during veg they only got one nute feeding period(with the exception of one tea feeding and regular molasses feedings), the key for me was my soil makeup, made feeding rather a mute point until the end of the veg cycle, then one good veg nuting and off to flower and a couple to a few feedings the entire flower cycle with one feeding of 0-55-10 three days before a two week flush.
I hope it works for you man I really do, but you might think about tossing out a little coin or seriously regulating them nutes. I mean you spent the time to make a nice cab and you spent some coin for a ballast fans and such. What's an extra 40 bucks, quid, lira or whatever your currency may be. You know ;). First and foremost though I'd re-check them numbers. I don't know you but I really do want you to succeed and have a bountiful harvest. Just my two pieces of silver on the situation.
 

bp420!

Member
Thanks for the input guys....I really appreciate the responses.

The numbers on my ferts are correct. I was under the impression that those npk ratings were ratios? Is that correct? If they are a ratio then my veg nutes that are 33-11-11 would be the same ratio as 3-1-1? I'll be ordering seeds for my next grow and i'll have a much larger grow space 4x2x8 so i will be ordering nutes...i'm either going with ff or flora.

"Day time" for my babies is 8pm to 8am so tonight a couple mins before lights on i'll take some pic and post em up...but yeah they are dark green, the stems on the fan leaves are a different color than the actual secondary shoots, is this normal?

As far as being burned to a crisp...i always read about the holy "78" degree mark, my cabinet stays around 83-86(Sometimes as high as 90) during lights on and low 70s lights off. Before i installed the ct it would literally get to 100+.

Thanks again guys!
 

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