1k watt in c24?

[welgill]

How much air would I have to move to make a 1k work in the c24?
My situation is scaling back from a 8x3x8 space having to go stealth and smaller

Already have a 1k watt hps and a c24 I bought a while back when they went on clearence for dicontinuing.

Want to do a recirc bucket system.
My current equip list:
1k hps with bat wing reflector
14 bucket recirc 5 gal buckets
trimeter
2 small fans for air moving within space
6' light mover
have a window a/c but would rather not use it into the cab
co2 setup

Goal is to make a elbow every 2 mos

Any thoughts?

 

[Guest]

i think you need to use a cool-tube or some sort of high-flow coolable shade like the hydrofarm daystar a/c and have a dedicated in/out just for the light, then keep your ballist outside the grow area, and then you could get away with only a small in/out fan into the cab.
i put my 400hps into my 6x5x8 closet and it gets to 100+ with a decent amount of cooling.

 

[welgill]

I have a hurricane lamp cover that will fit over my 1k bulb you think that would be better than say sealing the top portion of the cab?

 

[Guest]

the hurrican lamp tube in a cooltube setup would probably be better than sealing off the top of the cab. you still might want to seal off part of the top for the utilities, but if you really wanna make it work, get a high flow fan, probably something along the lines of a 4" vortex, pumping air just through the cooltube to make sure the air stays really fast moving and not hot. The faster moving the air, the less heat will seep through the tube and into the cab. If you do that, you can probably run another 4" vortex (maybe you'd need a 6") pulling air through a medium sized carbon filter and you'd be fine.

 

[NOKUY]

your set up would work real good if you get another c24 and put the two of them together (face to face)....just dont use the doors, and you can hinge it on one side and latch it on the other side, and put them on caster wheels...someone on here or OG had that setup, and it was tight.

 

[welgill]

Thanks for the replys guys will give the cooltube a try i think

 

[Guest]

Not sure just how different a c24 cab is from mine which stands at
44"X33"X 7'. I have a 1000 HPS with a 6" through duct witha small 6" desk fan that pushes the air through. With a 5k window ac the cab works like a champ. The ballast sits outside

 

[Guest]

wndsfr69: thats a kickass setup! you must run CO2 in there if you're runnin AC? so no need for a filter or anything right?

 

[Guest]

I built a small 6" round X 14" carbon filter that sits in the back. It uses a large equipment muffin fan to push the air through(about 100 CFM unrestricted). It holds about 10Lb of carbon. The box is light and air tight. Some day I'll put CO2 into this box too but for now I'm set. I do use a small fan to mix up the air a bit more that's mounted up on the inside wall. The ac keeps the temps at 75 deg + / - 4 . I also have a filter screen in the ac unit that gets changed at the end of every run. The walls, floor and ceiling have been painted with a rubber type roofing paint for durability and improved light reflection.

Here is another cab thats 22"X24"X5'. I use it now as my vege cab. 5k ac, 20 lb carbon filter, 300 cfm axial, CO2 system


Hope this gives you some ideas.

 

[Maj.PotHead]

Not sure just how different a c24 cab is from mine which stands at
44"X33"X 7'. I have a 1000 HPS with a 6" through duct witha small 6" desk fan that pushes the air through. With a 5k window ac the cab works like a champ. The ballast sits outside

Not sure just how different a c24 cab is from mine

20 - 1/2 D x 47 - 1/2 W x 70 - 3/8 inch T approx approx half the size of yours honestly i wouldnt want to run anything over 600w hps in the C24 a 1 K will have some wild temps in there. theres just really no room for a A/C unit http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=83870-444-WS48MP&lpage=none

 

[Guest]

Maj. Pothead
Yeah, a 1k in a C24 would be way much. Even with an ac unit installed, the ac would be running all the time to keep temps down. Good call

 

[clowntown]

i put my 400hps into my 6x5x8 closet and it gets to 100+ with a decent amount of cooling.

Yeah, but what are the ambient temperatures? You must have started at something like 90 - 95, or your "decent amount of cooling" isn't so "decent".

It doesn't mean a thing if your starting ambient temperatures are 100 degrees and you throw in a 400w and end up with 100+ degrees, but it would mean something completely different if you started at 60 and ended up with 100+.

 

[MTF-Sandman]

I did a 1k in a 4x2x5 closet for over a year with temps never getting over 80f...the secret? LOTS of airflow and an air cooled light. Those buds were some of the finest I've ever grown...if I could afford the power bill I'd run 4k over my 4x8 table.

 

[Guest]

Yeah, but what are the ambient temperatures? You must have started at something like 90 - 95, or your "decent amount of cooling" isn't so "decent".

It doesn't mean a thing if your starting ambient temperatures are 100 degrees and you throw in a 400w and end up with 100+ degrees, but it would mean something completely different if you started at 60 and ended up with 100+.

no man, normal apt with december temps at about 50-70 and house ranging from 60-70 the walkin closet gets to 100+ with the door open and a boxfan in the doorway. not to mention the room the closet is in does get to like 85-95+
your smart you knew what i was trying to say before you posted.
i was trying to make a example so that he knows a 1k in a c24 is hardcore and he might want to scale back or get hardcore cooling.

moreover... putting a 1k in a c24 might not be the best use a closet could allow a cluster of 9 5 gal pots with more room to grow then a c24... plus more hight probably bigger yields...
...
someone said 1k was alot with an a/c running all the time...

 

[clowntown]

No I wasn't trying to be a smartass...

I didn't know what your starting temps were, because it didn't make sense: a 6' x 5' closet getting that hot with good ventilation. I ran 400w in 39" x 39" with much less ventilation and the temps didn't rise much more than 5deg above ambient I believe. And I see lots of people running 400w and 600w in those C24's without too heat issues, you know?

 

[Guest]

My 33”X44”X7’ cab has a cycle rate with 1k HPS of about every 20 min for 3 min(compressor on) when the ambient temps are 60 deg. Not too bad. Summer time is not good though, times drop to every ten min. Perhaps I need to improve my fan setup ...check out this ghetto set up. It sits over the top of my cab. Its out of sight,silent, and light proof. The white looking stuff is duct lagging. It works

 

[Maj.PotHead]

My 33”X44”X7’ cab has a cycle rate with 1k HPS of about every 20 min for 3 min(compressor on) when the ambient temps are 60 deg. Not too bad. Summer time is not good though, times drop to every ten min. Perhaps I need to improve my fan setup ...check out this ghetto set up. It sits over the top of my cab. Its out of sight,silent, and light proof. The white looking stuff is duct lagging. It works

yes improve is correct starting with closing the door to the closet increasing your exhaust object is to move 3-5times room air every min. on your closet door if its a normal interior door i would put a 24x24 with 8 inch slats darkroom louver for fresh air intake. if you do a search here for darkroom louver you'll find few links on where to buy them with a 1k hps i wouldnt go no less then 8inch exhaust fan. i have 4 fans inside my cab i have a 400w hps in air cooled hood stanely bloower fan for the light and hood to exhaust. i have a 4inch can filter and a active air blower fan fn95sys, temps in cab lights out stay house temps lights on 6-8 above ambient 3 inch below hood in lighting. my house stays right now 68-70 i run hps lighting at night even now during summer mytemps never raised above 82-83 @ 115 degrees or higher july and aug outside . the key to temp control is strong exhaust cool fresh air intake and a sealed grow erea.

 

[welgill]

Cool guys lots of good info here where to start.....
AC unit in the cab now thats an original idea with 1/2" plywood on back would work out really well in a cab I think especialy as I have co2
but the stealth thing bites me in the rear
Oh and I converted my window shaker to duckts will post pic of conversion tommorow works real well

been lookin at Dopest stanly blower mod and that may be the ticket if I can muffle the ducts use dedicated to the light in cooltube and pull intake air filtered from below house with the ac tho my current room stays in low 70's with the 1k on so would do fine in a cab I think dunno lots to consider

 

[Guest]

mj pothead
My grow cab is completly sealed including ruber gaskets on the doors. I do have a 4" home made carbon scrubber that works kick ass. The ac unit I selected does not exchange the air it only runs it through the cooling coils. Maybe I'll put a splitter on my co2 system from my other cab and work it that way. Here is my next buy to cool that 1k hps. Coupled with a speed controler this baby should do the trick.

 

[The Dopest]

ok so a 1k will work in a c24, assuming you have a 10-12k btu ac. though the topic should have read, "1k in a c24 with an unapproving relative in the house" thats what you need to ask. be more specific and get better results. these cats dont know you have a relative in the next room thats home nights weekends and holidays while you are there and away. they dont know you are tryin to cover it up for a second time. be specific and get specific answers.

what is the logistics of puttin a 1k hps in a c24 inside a bedroom closet with other folks living within the home that DO NOT approve of growing and not being found out?

thanks