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1984 Right Here & Now !

mriko

Green Mujaheed
Veteran
Hi everyone !

I've just seen something on tv absolutely shaky, really ! Let me describe the spatio temporal settlings for your better understanding :

So we're in France (that so great country of Human Rights, eh ?) and from tomorrow it will be forbidden to smoke in public places (with loads of different fines for contravenents). This is the occasion for Media Gov. to push ever more on some pretty huge campaign against tobacco.
On one channel there's a broacast very famous called "Le magazine de la santé" ("Health Mag"). going on early afternoon 5 days per week.
Of course today's was full about tobacco and how to kick it. THey had invited some kind of expert who presented the full array of gums and other chemicals (serving us quite some pearls such as "you can go on the gums, nicotine is not toxic", eh?).
I was quite amazed at how they insisted on the guiltiness. smokers feel guilty, because he smokes, be cause he fails to stop or whatever, smokers must be guilty, smokers ARE guilty. Smokers are shit.

Only this had a pretty weird feeling.

But the horror was reached during a sequence during which people can send questions through email or sms (I couldn't resist to take part sending them "If you want to kick tobacco then smoke herb !")

One lady asked "Is it possible to kick cigarette through will?"

The "expert" replied : "NO, it is not about will, it is of no use, it is chemical problem, you need the pill"


eeeeh ? what ? Did I heard well ? Did she say that ? Oh God yes she did !

I just couldn't believe the fucking shit ! This is pure Orwellian stuff really ! I happen to have watched THX 1138 few days ago (damn good one, recommended!) and I had like flashes of this ugly medicine cupboard with the camera inside which asks "what's happening ? take this pill !"


I am not unaware of all the different kind of manipulations they're pushing on us and they way they do it, but damn it, this is the very first time ever I witness the expression of a whole unadulterated Orwellian concept showing up on tv (and I can tell you I spend a load of fucking time watching it).
The TOTAL and OFFICIAL negation of human will, it's total submission to the mediatico-chemical beast (yeah men, the screen is THE pill !).
YOU HAVE NO WILL ! TAKE THIS PILL !

So guys, tell me, are Orwell or P.K. Dick Prophets ? hmm ?

for those who can receive France5, the broadcast is again shown at 7pm local time. watch it and see by yourself !

Irie !
 

genkisan

Cannabrex Formulator
Veteran
Read a book called "Four Reasons for the Elimination of Television", by Jerry Mander.


It will scare the fuck out of you.
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
The leaders of the human race aren't doin so hot right now....:badday:
 
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FKN CREEP

Member
i kicked cigs without that nasty fucking falling apart gum
but i dont think this whole bullshit of eliminating smoking everywhere makes any sense
how about (prolly not such a problem in france but) you eliminate the fuckin ten trucks at every side of the intersection i'm sitting at before you tell me i can't smoke a cigarette in a fucking public place so lil johnny shitface doesnt cough
 

Gangabiss

free your SELF
Veteran
That's the plan, make everyone believe they have no free will and they will roll over and accept whatever you want to lay on them.

Most people don't even know they are alive...and I mean that literally.
 

darrinjefferson

Active member
yeah...this is wack. i dont smoke cigs..well maybe 1 when i am super drunk, and some spliffs... :yummy:
but this is craziness.

being a student on a fairly large campus i am exposed to cigs alot...i mean alot....i cant walk to a class without having to walk around, behind or next to someone smoking. i will tell you i dont enjoy it...but its out of my hands...its their choice.

making it illegal is ridiculous..
right up there with marijuana being illegal.

oh well...the world we live in is going nuts!!!
or at least the ppl running it.

late
 
G

Guest

Nikijad4210 said:
To hell in a hand basket, as they say.......
I say that all the time - really...

I do...

ws
 
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alaeddin

Member
I'm not against the banning of smoking in public areas, but the talk about kicking the habit with your will... That's ridiculous.
 
G

Guest

smoking should be banned for all humanity (except gurus)

You worry too much
 

The Uncola

Member
Tobacco is a hell of an addiction to break. It killed my mother.

I am more and more into G. Orwell. I first read 1984 back in about......1984! And I was in Gary Indiana waiting to take a bus toward Potoskey Michigan to do some skiing.
Mike Malloy read the entire contents of 1984 on the air on Air America Radio. He is on to something but I worry about his mental health!
 
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HCSmyth

Member
This planet and universe has been likely destined to go to hell in a hand basket before humans even existed. With this in perspective it is truly incredible what humans have accomplished during our short time on this earth. Will we ultimately be victims of our own success? Maybe, but I will not cheer for humanities downfall.
 

jojajico

Active member
Veteran
people should be able to smoke but what they shouldnt be able to do is to force others to do the saem (second hand smoke). logically if you can smoke and blow it in my face i should be able to punch u in your face, or spray you down with toxic pesticides. your doing dammage to me why cant i do the same to you. if you want to fuck yourself over go ahead just dont draw me down with u. i dont care if its one second of smoke that i have to breath in. i shouldn have to be forced to. its just a consideration thing. i dont go around injecting people with herpes dont go around infecting me with lunge cancer.
 

James Morrison

~*MR.MOJORISIN*~
"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears so to speak. Producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda, or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution"
-Aldous Huxley
 
G

Guest

Maybe a sidepoint on tobacco....

But did you know that a tobaccoplant sealed into one airtight room can communicate with another. They observed this because the second plant started producing antibodies to the toxins that the first plant was subjected to...

Far out

Imagine The Ganja Potential

(When she smiles)
 
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