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100 seeds autoflower outdoor (Sweden)

Hello!
I got some huge plans on my mind right now haha, my plans is to grow 100 plants or more if next summer(2015 - June-Sep).
I live at 60*N and 15*E so the weather might be a problem, this summer was great! If the next summer will be like this one I think I will succe.

My plan is to do this:
1. Buy 100x feminezed autoflower, not sure which strain get. I have to read a litle more about which strain is good for my location and timeperiod.
2. Buy the subcools kit to make about 300gallon soil. Then I will let it cook for 2-3 months.
3. I will germinate my seeds by the paper plate method and then put them in party mugs with just garden soil and when I see like 2-3 leafs I will take the soil out of the mug and put it the supersoil.
4. Just water when It needs.


Just a few questions:
  • Will subcools super soil be to hot? Or will my method of transplanting fix that problem?
  • What strain do you recommend for my location and plan? I really want high yield and strong THC :biggrin:
  • Is better for me to make my own feminzed seeds? Negative and positive what that? How many feminzed seeds is it possible to get out of 1 healthy plant?
  • What you think about my plan? Can I do something better? Please tell me then.

Thank you!
 
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I forget something to tell you guys. Why I want to use Subcools super soil is because I just want to water the plant. I cant really run and check the plants all the time because growing cannabis in Sweden is ilegal... If you recommend any other soil mix that will have enough nutriens in it all the way to harvest which is cheaper and maybe better for autoflower then Subcools mix please tell me.
 

aridbud

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100 is an ambitious and very labor intensive project. Good luck with that.
 

Ru5tyNaiL

Member
I can't give you any advice as I'm not an outdoor grower but from my experience its best to plant autos in the finishing container from day 1 so you don't have any stunted growth from transplant and end up with tiny plants. Anyway it sounds labor intensive and I wish you luck and positive vibes on your journey.
 
I can't give you any advice as I'm not an outdoor grower but from my experience its best to plant autos in the finishing container from day 1 so you don't have any stunted growth from transplant and end up with tiny plants. Anyway it sounds labor intensive and I wish you luck and positive vibes on your journey.

Hey man! Ye I have read that to. But the problem is if Im going to use a super soil it would be to hot for the seed... You got any tips for me how to do? If i do liek 3/4 super soil and 1/4 of just some organic soil on the top do you think it will work to put the seed in?
Thank you man, yee it will be a funny project :biggrin:
 

aridbud

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Try 25 at a time. Even in Sweden, you can have successive crops planting every 20-30 days. 100 at one time is a recipe for disaster....but do what you want to do. You'll learn from experience. Better to keep it managable than do 100....costly mistake.

Add perlite to the mixture, maybe sand. Yes, Super Soil runs HOT! And adding extra compost to it might heat it up more.
 

dickcorn

Active member
100 isn't that many depending on how "guerrilla" this grow will be. Best to start them in final container. If I was starting on location is do as many as I could right away with backups to be started 2 weeks later. If your starting inside then taking to location I'd start them in waves as arid said. Every time I've tried starting them in cups yield was shit for me. One gallon minimum with transplant ASAP or final container from the start. Good luck!
Ps I always start my seeds in my own super soil with little to no issues .
 
Hey guys, thanks for the tip!
Dickcorn is it possible to get your recipe of the your own super soil mix?
What you guys think about this recipe:
- 1 bag of Miracle-Gro organic choice garden soil
- 1 bag of pro mix for containers
- 1 cup blood meal
- 1 cup bone meal
- 1/2 cup dolimite lime
- 10-20% added chunky perlite

Will it burn the seed if i plant it right in this mix? Ofc after I have gerimante the seed hehe.
 

OvergrowDaWorld

$$ ALONE $$
Veteran
Yes. It will probably burn them good. Especially with Miricle Grow soil.
Shitty stuff!

Just get FFOF soil and Happy Frog soil.
Do a 50/50 mix of FFOF and HF with 20% chunky perlite in 5 gln buckets.
1 plant per bucket. Youll do good with that.
Dont transplant at all. Start the seeds outside in the 5gln buckets.
Put the seeds in a warm, wet papertowel in a zip lock baggie and when the tails pop bring them to the buckets and plant tails down.
 

JointOperation

Active member
if you grab your soil in the winter.. you get it for a few bucks more per bag then miracle grow..

we get bags of fox farms ocean forest for 10 Each.. begining of the winter.. and if we grab mid winter.. we can get them down to 7.. if we buy a bunch..


not from the hydro stores..

one thing ive learned.. hydrostores.. are only to be gone to when you need something you cannot wait for.. everything else can be shipped.. or found cheaper elsewere.

and from when i tried autos.. the bigger the pot.. the longer it takes them to start flowering.. meaning you get bigger plants..

ive noticed.. with autos.. a friend of mine has been growing tons of autos lately.. and he said his only advice.. is .. start them out in small pots.. cut out the bottom of the pot.. and put directly into the bigger pot.. after they germ and have a few leaves.. the big thing is tap root.. you want that baby to get as long as she can..
 

MostlyMe

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I wouldn't bother with custom soil, just buy a complete amendment. There are mixes, tablets, pellets, whatever. Cheap and easy.

If your soil is too hot, make a hole in it and fill it with a lightly fertilized soil. I like to make a cilinder-shaped hole about the size of an empty roll of toilet paper.

Is this commercial? Because surely you don't want only one strain to smoke for eternity!
 

rangergord

Active member
Here are some autos that I planted outdoors in my garden at 56N in the boreal forest of canada. I don't find transplanting to be very good for autos. It stunts your plants in general, resulting in early flowering. Better if you direct seed in a bed or row as long as you can be sure they have frequent watering during the first week or two. Planted directly outdoors the first week of June.

I harvest an average of 1 oz. per plant every year for a harvest of 1 pound from 40 regular auto seeds. Harvest date Aug 30 to Sept 21 depending on the year. I make my own seeds as well. Outdoor breeding is possible with autoflowers.



If I were to grow 100 regular seeds I would expect a harvest of about 3 pounds. Always wanted to try it but I don't need that much and I don't want to attract attention.

As far as fertilizer and soil goes, stop stressing about it and keep it simple. I grew these in poor clay soil with some added horse manure. Peat moss also works well. Just enough to lighten up the the texture of the soil. Then I add a bit of lime or wood ashes to counteract the acidity. Then I fertilize only twice with liquid fertilizer. Bat guano and urine during the veg stage and once during flowering. Too much fertilizer is a bad idea because you can easily end up harvesting dark green bud that burns and tastes harsh.
 

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rangergord

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Looking at what you say you want to do I would suggest taking this in smaller bites and at some point you may attain your goal. Start with fewer seeds. You tend to use more seeds outdoors than indoors and so the cost of seeds may be an issue. With autos it pays to make your own seeds. Feminizing them is relatively easy indoors but a short northern outdoor season is going to be difficult due to a more lengthy breeding time.

As I direct seed in my beds I find that removing males from the bed later is really easy. I plant about 1 seed per square foot and when males are removed there is about twice that area per plant.

While there are obvious advantages to feminized seeds, they put you at the mercy of a seedbank unless you have your own feminized seed production going on.

This is a lot to take on all at once. I started small indoors breeding auto seeds. Then I moved outdoors the next year.

It is not the number of plants or the type of fertilizer you use that determines your success. You need to pick an appropriate auto variety and determine the proper times to plant. Understand the constraints of rainfall and humidity and temperature.

How big your plants grow before they flower will determine how much they produce and this is determined by how many weeks they veg before autoflowering. In hot dry conditions my outdoor autos flower in as little as 2-3 weeks. In more moderated conditions with higher humidity it takes up to 6 weeks before autoflowering happens. This is the case with the plants growing above. Flowering is also triggered by growing in small pots and transplanting. Fast flowering insures you have a harvest in short seasons but it is at the expense of yeild.
 

aridbud

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@rangergord-
Excellent advice;that's what I hinted at earlier. Didn't go into as much detail as you, and appreciative you took the time to s-p-e-l-l out any problems beforehand.

Many of us, like dickcorn, myself are seasoned growers.

Sounds like a lofty goal, but in reality...GROW as you go.....instead of full on and have amiserable least productive outcome.

Again, for us all, thanks for your quips and tips!:tiphat:
 

mrpewpew

Member
I have grown outdoor several years in the southern parts sweden with everything from great results to total fails.

The biggest problems you are faced with in sweden would be the weather, and slugs.

I lost many plants to slugs before I discovered "beer-traps" built from plastic 0,5 litre bottles, after I started using these I have never had slug problems and the traps are always full of slugs. Its a great way to keep the slugs away, they need refilling/cleaning about one time a week depending on how much slugs you have in your growing area.

The weather can also cause some problems when growing in sweden. Some years there was quite a bit of rain while the plants were in late blooming which caused mold in most of the bud. Other years the weather was great and so were the results from my outdoor-projects. I havent really found any good solution to weather/mold problem, I just grow and hope for the best :)
 

h3sus

Member
other good way to reduce slugs way to go on the plants is to use copper wire to bottom of plant, just roll it around the bottom branch and they won't go near, dunno why they hate it but it have worked pretty well here in Finland, and other is the beer cup.
 

NeDank

Active member
Hello!
I got some huge plans on my mind right now haha, my plans is to grow 100 plants or more if next summer(2015 - June-Sep).
I live at 60*N and 15*E so the weather might be a problem, this summer was great! If the next summer will be like this one I think I will succe.

My plan is to do this:
1. Buy 100x feminezed autoflower, not sure which strain get. I have to read a litle more about which strain is good for my location and timeperiod.
2. Buy the subcools kit to make about 300gallon soil. Then I will let it cook for 2-3 months.
3. I will germinate my seeds by the paper plate method and then put them in party mugs with just garden soil and when I see like 2-3 leafs I will take the soil out of the mug and put it the supersoil.
4. Just water when It needs.


Just a few questions:
  • Will subcools super soil be to hot? Or will my method of transplanting fix that problem?
  • What strain do you recommend for my location and plan? I really want high yield and strong THC :biggrin:
  • Is better for me to make my own feminzed seeds? Negative and positive what that? How many feminzed seeds is it possible to get out of 1 healthy plant?
  • What you think about my plan? Can I do something better? Please tell me then.

Thank you!

1. idk
2. any of the larger autos like big bang
3. yes, if you can buy a few and make your own it's much cheaper. 1 seeded large auto will provide 1,000-3000 seeds or more
4. sounds good
 

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