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Gardening Without Irrigation: Guerilla growers check this out!

BACKCOUNTRY

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I came across a great website yesterday, it contains a online version of a good book about growing vegetables with very little irrigation by a author I have read and respected for many years. He has given growers the permission to use this online version.
Originally this book was meant for gardeners living between the Pacific ocean and the Cascade mountains in Northern California,western Oregon, western Washington, and SW Brittish Columbia, a region with great summer conditions for growing, but with very little rainfall. He says that even though this book was written for the PacNW, that the content could be usefull for people all over the USA, or the world for that matter, and I agree.

This book is written for vegtable gardening, but most of the basics apply for growing any usefull plants.

This book provides lots of good info about figuring out your water needs, estimating how well the rain is watering, and showing you how much water your soil can hold. Check it out-

Gardening Without Irrigation: or without much, anyway, by Steve Solomon

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I'm going to post a few quotes from the book, just to give a example of whats inside-

From the preface-
"Sasquatch Books is a quality west coast publisher specializing in regional books. Their Cascadia Gardening Series is a group of inexpensive, topic-specific books intended for distribution only along the Pacific slope of Washington, Oregon and Northern California, and in the Lower Mainland and Islands of British Columbia. Most of the series covers subjects like "Regional Roses."

My book, Gardening Without Irrigation, never quite fit into that series because the techniques it explains apply everywhere a food grower is faced with the possibility--or actuality--of not having irrigation or not having enough irrigation.

Gardening Without Irrigation can help anyone whose garden depends on a limited or undependable well, anyone who gardens on natural rainfall, for any place faced with the possibility of drought."


From chapter 1
"Defined scientifically, drought is not lack of rain. It is a dry soil condition in which plant growth slows or stops and plant survival may be threatened. The earth loses water when wind blows, when sun shines, when air temperature is high, and when humidity is low. Of all these factors, air temperature most affects soil moisture loss."

"The kind of vegetation growing on a particular plot and its density have even more to do with soil moisture loss than temperature or humidity or wind speed. And, surprising as it might seem, bare soil may not lose much moisture at all. I now know it is next to impossible to anticipate moisture loss from soil without first specifying the vegetation there. Evaporation from a large body of water, however, is mainly determined by weather, so reservoir evaporation measurements serve as a rough gauge of anticipated soil moisture loss."




From chapter 2
"Soil is capable of holding on to quite a bit of water, mostly by adhesion. For example, I'm sure that at one time or another you have picked up a wet stone from a river or by the sea. A thin film of water clings to its surface. This is adhesion. The more surface area there is, the greater the amount of moisture that can be held by adhesion. If we crushed that stone into dust, we would greatly increase the amount of water that could adhere to the original material. Clay particles, it should be noted, are so small that clay's ability to hold water is not as great as its mathematically computed surface area would indicate."

From chapter 7
"When using any type of drip system it is especially important to relate the amount of water applied to the depth of the soil to the crops, root development. There's no sense adding more water than the earth can hold. Calculating the optimum amount of water to apply from a drip system requires applying substantial, practical intelligence to evaluating the following factors: soil water-holding capacity and accessible depth; how deep the root systems have developed; how broadly the water spreads out below each emitter (dispersion); rate of loss due to transpiration. All but one of these factors--dispersion--are adequately discussed elsewhere in Gardening Without Irrigation.

A drip emitter on sandy soil moistens the earth nearly straight down with little lateral dispersion; 1 foot below the surface the wet area might only be 1 foot in diameter. Conversely, when you drip moisture into a clay soil, though the surface may seem dry, 18 inches away from the emitter and just 3 inches down the earth may become saturated with water, while a few inches deeper, significant dispersion may reach out nearly 24 inches. On sandy soil, emitters on 12-inch centers are hardly close enough together, while on clay, 30- or even 36-inch centers are sufficient.

Another important bit of data to enter into your arithmetic: 1 cubic foot of water equals about 5 gallons. A 12-inch-diameter circle equals 0.75 square feet (A = Pi x Radius squared), so 1 cubic foot of water (5 gallons) dispersed from a single emitter will add roughly 16 inches of moisture to sandy soil, greatly overwatering a medium that can hold only an inch or so of available water per foot. On heavy clay, a single emitter may wet a 4-foot-diameter circle, on loams, anywhere in between, 5 gallons will cover a 4-foot-diameter circle about 1 inch deep. So on deep, clay soil, 10 or even 15 gallons per application may be in order. What is the texture of your soil, its water-holding capacity, and the dispersion of a drip into it? Probably, it is somewhere in between sand and clay."



The last few chapters deals with vegetables mostly, but I think there is lots of good info for guerrilla Cannabis growers who have concerns about water for their plants.

I'll be happy to discuss this with any who are interested, and I'll be writting more concerning this book, and the info it contains.
 
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Gantz

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i remember reading this...isn't it mostly about raised-bed gardening?
 

pipeline

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Great info! Thanks for sharing, Backcountry! I'm hooked off just the intro.... :D
 

DIGITALHIPPY

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" Two months later, in June, just as my garden began needing water, my so-called 15-gallon-per-minute well began to falter, yielding less and less with each passing week. By August it delivered about 3 gallons per minute. Fortunately, I wasn't faced with a completely dry well or one that had shrunk to below 1 gallon per minute, as I soon discovered many of my neighbors were cursed with. Three gallons per minute won't supply a fan nozzle or even a common impulse sprinkler, but I could still sustain my big raised-bed garden by watering all night, five or six nights a week, with a single, 2-1/2 gallon-per-minute sprinkler that I moved from place to place. "

what???
there not replacing water....
just changing the time its given...
what hogwash.
 

BACKCOUNTRY

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Gantz-Yes, as I said, many of the chapters are about vegetable gardening, although Steve is not a big fan of raised beds as I recall from other books.
I brought this to the attention of the community because I really like his explanation of the soil being like a Bank, only not for money but for water. You plant plants in it and they withdraw water, sometimes the rain deposites water, and sometime you do. Anyways, I think its a great explantion of how the water cycle works, and what roll the plants, soil, rain, sun, and temperature play in it all.

DIGITALHIPPY- I'm thinking you don't understand what he is talking about here or the context, and I don't understand what it is that you think is hog wash?

I'll explain the sentances for you:

"Two months later, in June, just as my garden began needing water, my so-called 15-gallon-per-minute well began to falter, yielding less and less with each passing week. By August it delivered about 3 gallons per minute."
- In the climate Steve is growing in(SW Oregon), the rainy season is Oct-May, so many water wells slow down gradually during June through September. He previously explained that the well on the property was advertised as being 15 gallons per minute flow, but now that he has comitted himself to a large garden he is finding out that the flow in summer is much slower.
Fortunately, I wasn't faced with a completely dry well or one that had shrunk to below 1 gallon per minute, as I soon discovered many of my neighbors were cursed with.
- Many of Steves neighbors had wells that were even slower than his.
Three gallons per minute won't supply a fan nozzle or even a common impulse sprinkler, but I could still sustain my big raised-bed garden by watering all night, five or six nights a week, with a single, 2-1/2 gallon-per-minute sprinkler that I moved from place to place.
- Steve was growing a huge garden, his plan had been to water it with a high volume hand held fan nozel and with a lawn watering sprinkler. Now all he had was a simple garden hose with a very low flow, and he had no way to store water, so he was forced to water each plant by hand as the well produced water, a very lon and tedious job in a large garden. Apparently he had to water at night because he was probably working a job during the day most of the time.

The passage you quoted is not a instruction, or a example of something that is recommended, it is the opposite, Steve is explaining a hard situation brought about by his lack of experience growing in his new climate, and the poor planning associated with it. I think you took it out of context, I'd suggest re-reading the book from the begining, and not skip ahead.
 

Ganico

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The title is a bit mis-leading , I think that's what Digitalhippy was talking about

Cause I thought something similar. "Gardening Without Irrigation", then he talks about irrigating with drip lines, haha
 

BACKCOUNTRY

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I don't think the title is misleading at all, Solomons title is "Gardening Without Irrigation: or without much, anyway", I didn't include the "or without much anyway" in the thread title becuase it would have been ridiculously long.

I'd hoped more people would have read the usefull parts I was trying to point out rather than getting stuck on titles, or calling BS on things they don't understand. I'm dissappointed.........

I posted this not for "gardening without irrigation" so much, but more for the valuable information concerning efficent irrigation strategies and the relationship of soil and moisture.
 
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Gantz

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the book is good for gardeners that don't have a close, constant water-source...but some might not understand the value of reading it. i can already read it now "No!!! I understand the value of reading...but can you just tell me what are the tips&tricks the book underlines?"

i read the book a long time ago but somehow i still remember some of it.
plant density is important for water conservation, and i remember the book mentioning that sometimes they cut down a few plants in order to save the others. My grandfather had another technique for saving water. Being in a former communist country my grandparents had water schedules so when it didn't rain and the water was turned off, aside from thinning plant density, he made a dirt mulch.

getting back to plant density. most outdoor growers are guerilla growers and plants around us matter a very much. Stealth is very important.



i know the plant isn't big and i know it's growing in a container (and that the colour might give it away) but if i would plant in the ground, water would be lost very fast...and watering frequently for some of us is not an option. BUT by thinning the vegetation in that spot, this might give the plant away don't you think?
 
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great info backcountry.. thanks for posting
 
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we had an incredibly dry summer last yr.It was for that reason I did no weeding in my veggie garden.The weeds provided enough shade that the soil retained some moisture.if I had weeded really thoroughly they'd have dried up in no time.Of course this works better in a garden packed with compost etc.
 

SilverSurfer_OG

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Awesome link Backcountry :yes:

Perfect for my australian climate.



Think i will be using some drippers on these babies.

:smoweed:
 

BACKCOUNTRY

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budluver said:
we had an incredibly dry summer last yr.It was for that reason I did no weeding in my veggie garden.The weeds provided enough shade that the soil retained some moisture.if I had weeded really thoroughly they'd have dried up in no time.Of course this works better in a garden packed with compost etc.
Actually, if you read the book, you will find that you would have retained more soil moisture by removing the weeds. Most moisture loss below the first inch or two of soil is due to use by plants only.

You see, the soil is like a wick in a passive hydro set up, as long as the wick stays wet draws moisture through capilary action. But if the wick becomes dry it cannot draw more moisture, the same thing happens in the soil, once the top layer of soil is dried by the sun/wind it can no longer draw moisture to the surface. See what I'm saying? I know it doesn't make sense at first.......bare dirt is actually a better mulch than organic materials like grassclippings.
 
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BACKCOUNTRY

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Gantz said:
the book is good for gardeners that don't have a close, constant water-source...but some might not understand the value of reading it. i can already read it now "No!!! I understand the value of reading...but can you just tell me what are the tips&tricks the book underlines?"...
Gantz- Not so much tips or tricks, but more hard, soild explainations of how water works with our soil, chapter 1, and parts of 2, 3, and 7 are what I am promoting here. I posted this because I don't think many memebers really understand how the water/soil relationship works, not so much to promote Steves dry gardening technique, get what I am saying?

Yes, unfortunatly we cannot clear our guerrilla gardens of weeds to much in preference to our plants, especially for those who grow in places where people are actually walking right by regularly(I plant in very remote places, so I can clear lots of weeds).
But once again, this was not exactly why I posted this, more I posted this for the concept of the soil being a water bank, the rain and you put water in, and the plants take it out, and of course if you must leave the weeds, then so be it , it is worth watering them too for the cover they provide, making them "usefull" plants as well.
Myself and many other growers would actually recommend that you plant in the ground rather than in a container for water conservation, planters are exposed to higher temperatures out of the ground, and will dry out faster.

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I should have just reposted the chapters I thought were usefull, it seems many folks have just gotten lost and confused.
 

pipeline

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BACKCOUNTRY said:
Actually, if you read the book, you will find that you would have retained more soil moisture by removing the weeds. Most moisture loss below the first inch or two of soil is due to use by plants only.

You see, the soil is like a wick in a passive hydro set up, as long as the wick stays wet draws moisture through capilary action. But if the wick becomes dry it cannot draw more moisture, the same thing happens in the soil, once the top layer of soil is dried by the sun/wind it can no longer draw moisture to the surface. See what I'm saying? I know it doesn't make sense at first.......bare dirt is actually a better mulch than organic materials like grassclippings.

Soil mulch would be better as far as water retention, but I would bet that grass clippings promotes less surface compaction compared with soil mulch. But I see what you/the book is talking about with letting the surface dry off so that it is not part of the capillary water movement system....

Compacton of surface soil will lead to less oxygen diffusion into the soil, where plant roots and microbes are in competition for available oxygen.... :chin:

Plants/weeds are essentially increasing the surface area of the soil where water can be lost. Not only do the tissues themselves use water for their physiology, water is also transpired through stomata (pores) in the aerial portions of the plant. The continual loss of water through stomata leads to a negative water pressure inside the leaves which causes water under greater pressure in the veins to be moved in the direction of the neg. pressure. Through attraction of molecules, the force is transferred through the plant vascular system down to the root hair surfaces, where a solution of water and ions is pulled with great force through root cells and into conduction tissues.

Basically little straws with evaporation pads hanging off, sticking out of the soil if you can immagine.... Weeding does matter! Should have seen my garden this year.... Sort of a mess, but it got dry and I didn';t want to pull out all my upper soil just to remove some weeds... got to start sooner next year...

Guerilla growing does require some weeds to be left for camoflage, but they can still be removed within an appropriate radius early in the year at least. Weeds just keep on growing all year.... Plenty of native camo around here, but it depends on the specific site... In my experience, a plant in the ground with a few weeds around it will need to be watered much less, or not at all, compared to one grown in a container in a lower water holding capacity, soilless medium....






 
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Backcountry..sorry you are right.I did not read the book.However I was thinking by removing the shade canopy created by the weeds the top foot of soil would dry out really quickly?? Definitely going to check it out.thx for the read..BL
 

pipeline

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Its not that shading doesn't help, it definately does! Its just that the amount of water those fast growing weeds are transpiring from the soil is greater than the benefit from shading the soil surface.

Back to reading....
 

BACKCOUNTRY

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Pipeline- I think the answer to the soil compaction would be to lightly rake the surface of the soil ocasionally, this would also fill in moisture releasing cracks in the soil that can be a problem in heavy clay soils.

Also I think the soil in the root zone should be very light, either heavy in organic materials or a loam, with the top 2" or so being a heavier native soil that mulches. I doubt that soil compaction would be much problem in properly ammended soils.
 

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Good Stuff. It makes sense if you think about it.

Not sure if this is the appropriate spot but I remove the weeds/ground cover from my plots during flowering for a different reason, MOLD.

Where I plant there is usually ample ground cover from the years of accumulated dead vegetation and that is a mold birthday party. So now I guess I was doing two things at once with out knowing. Retaining soil moisture and deterring mold.
 

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