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Sage 'n' Sour smoke report

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Hortipharm in santa barbara, cali, had these for $60 an eighth oz, and near $500 for an oz, for the most part they are large fluffy nugglets that are sure to please someone on a hunt for a bold sativa.

fun pot to smoke, while it does have a ceiling, i think i shall go ram my head into the ceiling a few times more.. i could spend the afternoon doing this. or the rest of the weeks afternoons. Has an immediate high to it upon exhale, would of given it a one in the onset cat, but it didnt get me high at all if i just held it in, once ya blow it out it nails ya.

flavor was very very strong, much like the smell of the pot. The type of pot that if you open it in a crowded restraunt the chef in the far back of the place is gonna come out with a special plate he made for you in the hopes of scoring a nugglet as a tip. Smelled very musky, near identical to lambsbread and the taste of blue dream. I had a fun time tasting this pot, its like the mans trainwreck, its just bigger and bolder, not frail like little girl trainwreck funk.

the high is zippy but not racey with a good touch of indica in it, enough to make your mind wander, and you still get side tracked as your wandering off. As the high comes to an end you can feel the indica feeling start to set in a bit more, or it could be the sativa having a burn out feeling to it. Not that bad, would be good to smoke at dinner and have the indica come on a bit later.
 
and the SSR..

and the SSR..

Variety/Cultivar name: Sage 'n' Sour

Breeder: T.H. Seeds
Lineage if known: S.A.G.E x Sour Diesel
Vendor: Hortipharm, san francisco, cali
Price: $60 1/8th

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PHYSICAL EXAMINATION
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1. Visual Appeal: 6
Rate the visual appeal of the buds from 1-10 unappealing-excellent.
comment: Nugs are very chunk but not trimmed well, there is a fair amount of sugar leaf that needs to be removed, some would smoke this as it is awfully frosty, but as bubbleman said, its about the message not the messenger.


2. Visible Trichomes: 7.5
Rate the visible trichome content from 1-10 none-totally covered.
comment: good trich coverage on inside and outside of bud/leaves, the sugar leaves that are remaining on the nuggets have frost all over em and they have a nice shine to em, often indicating higher quality dank.

3. Use an X to indicate the colors that are present in the trichome
heads under magnification or list the percentages of each color for
a more precise report.

Clear: 5%
Cloudy: 90%
Amber: 5%
Dark: %


4. Mark with X the colors that are present in the buds or for a more
detailed color analysis rate presence on a scale 1-9 light-dark.
Brown:
Green: 4
Gold:
Blue:
Grey: 7
White:
Red:
Rust:
Orange: 2
Purple:
Black:


5. Bud density: 4
Rate the bud density from 1-10 airy-dense. For samples that are
not in their natural state leave this field blank.
comment: Very easy to break up, seems to be grown under lower wattage or had some stretch issues in flowering, internode spacing isnt that tight on it and that may be the cause of the spacing between nugs on a cola. I saw about 1/4 lb of it and they had some nice size nugs in there, but also a good amount of lower nugs.


6. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the aroma of freshly broken bud where a one indicates a
subtle presence and 9 indicates a pronounced presence.

Ammonia [ ] Earthy [2] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ]
Berry [ ] Floral [ ] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [ ]
Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine [ ]
Cedar [ ] Grapefruit[ ] Menthol [ ] Pineapple [ ]
Cherry [] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten []
Chocolate [ ] Hash [ ] Mold [ ] Skunk [ ]
Citrus [ ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [7] Spice [1]
Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry[ ]
Coffee [ ] Lemon [4] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]

comment: very unique smell, somewhere between the scent of trainwreck funk minus the pine-sol, and the smell of a high school locker room/gym cleaned with pledge. Slightly woody smell to it when ya break it up, had a good sample here and it reaked inside and out.

7. Aroma: 8

Rate the aroma from 1-10 repulsive-delightful. Use freshly crumbled
bud for best results.


8. Seed content: 1

Rate seed content from 0-10 none-fully seeded.
comment: when i was purchasing this another customer noticed some premature seeds in the jar, upon breaking up my 1/8th oz i found three premature seeds in my nuggage.

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THE SMOKE TEST
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Address these questions while smoking.


1. Please use a clean instrument for the evaluation. Enter information
below that will identify the instrument as follows:

Water pipe (enter bong, hooka, bubbler etc): PHX bong
Vaporizer (enter the brand name):
Pipe (size-type, ie medium-glass):
Joint (enter brand of papers):
Other (specify):


2. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the taste where a one indicates a subtle presence and a
nine indicates a very pronounced presence.

Ammonia [ ] Earthy [6] Licorice [ ]
Berry [ ] Floral [ ] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [ ]
Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine [ ]
Cedar [ ] Grapefruit[ ] Menthol [2] Pineapple [ ]
Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ]
Chocolate [ ] Hash [ ] Mold [ ] Skunk []
Citrus [ ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [5] Spice [ ]
Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry[ ]
Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]


3. Taste: 8

Rate your impression of the taste from 1-10 unpleasant-delicious.

Comment: Tastes a lot like the smell, really enjoyable, the smoke smells very much like the smell of the herb but 20 times stronger and sticks to everything in the room like full melt hash smoke does, even more so.

4. State of dryness: 7

Rate the dryness of the bud from 1-10 wet-dry where 5 is ideal.


5. smoke ability: 7

Rate the smoke ability of the sample from 1-10 harsh-smooth.

Coment: no throat irritation that i could notice, but it does snap very well and seemed to be leached for a week or so, judging by the greyish ash that it left behind when burned on top of a glass screen.


6. Smoke expansion: 7

Rate how the smoke expands in the lungs from 1-10 stable-explodes.
comment: almost as quick as it goes in your lungs, you want to cough it out, luckily it gets you blasted right off the bat so you dont waste anything. Very quick expansion in the lungs, feel like im arm wrestling them to hold it in sometimes - for some reason i like the expansion though because it doesnt make me cough a lot like most others that rapidly expand in your lungs. Even odder is that as i smoke this, i really build up a tolerance to the coughing, or at least learn how to hold the stuff in better.



1. __[2 hits / .4g max]__ Dosage

Enter the number of hits taken to reach desired effects.


2. __[2]__ Effect onset

Rate how quickly the effect hit from 1-10 immediate-major creeper.


3. __[8]__ Sativa influence

Rate the sativa influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Sativa
influence is best described as a clear and energetic mental effect.


4. __[3]__ Indica influence

Rate the indica influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Indica
influence is best described as a sedative, lethargic or numbing
effect that affects the body.


5. __[8]__ Potency

Rate the potency of the sample from 0-10 none-devastating.


6. __[2]__ Duration

Indicate the number of hours the effects lasted.


7. __[6]__ Tolerance build up

Rate how quickly tolerance builds from 0-10 none-rapid. Leave this
field blank if you have not used this sample repeatedly.


8. Usability

Rate on a scale of 1-9 where a one indicates the worst time of day
to consume this strain and a nine represents the ideal time of day.
Leave field(s) blank if you have not yet formed an opinion.

Morning - wake up [4]
Day - work [6]
Evening - relax [6]
Night - sleep []


9. __[8]__ Overall satisfaction

Rate your overall satisfaction from 1-10 poor-Holy Grail.


10. __[9]__ Ability and conditions

Rate your overall ability to judge from 1-10 low-high. Consider
experience, strain familiarity, atmosphere, current tolerance and
most importantly the condition and preparation of the sample.


11.Judging from the sample alone do you personally consider this
strain a keeper for long term use?

Yes [X]
No []

comment: This would make a great daytime smoke for someone who didnt want to be super overpowerd but have something that lasts a bit longer than your standard apollo or trainwreck breakfast bowl. Good texture and flavor make it a treat to smoke, would be great in a big joint as ya head out for the day.



12.Rate the noticable effects on a scale of 1-9 mild-severe. Take
care to use the appropriate column for your response. Delete the
existing space when recording your entry to maintain the columns
in alignment. In all cases these casual observations should not
be construed as medical advice.


Negative Positive
Effect Effect

__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Appetite
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Anxiety relief
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Paranoia relief
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Sex drive
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Sleep
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Pain relief
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Ability to rest or sit still
__[4]__ __[ ]__ Thought process
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Speech process
__[ ]__ __[6]__ Imagination/creativity
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Humor perception
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Visual perception
__[ ]__ __[7]__ Audio perception
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Taste perception



FINAL COMMENTS:

fun pot to smoke, while it does have a ceiling, i think i shall go ram my head into the ceiling a few times.. i could spend the afternoon doing this. or the rest of my afternoons this week. Has an immediate high to it upon exhale, would of given it a one in the onset cat, but it didnt get me high at all if i just held it in, once ya blow it out it nails ya.

flavor was very very strong, much like the smell of the pot. The type of pot that if you open it in a crowded restraunt the chef in the far back of the place is gonna come out with a special plate he made for you in the hopes of scoring a nugglet as a tip. Smelled very musky, near identical to lambsbread and the taste of blue dream. I had a fun time tasting this pot, its like the mans trainwreck, its just bigger and bolder, not frail like little girl trainwreck funk.

the high is zippy but not racey with a good touch of indica in it, enough to make your mind wander, and you still get side tracked as your wandering off. As the high comes to an end you can feel the indica feeling start to set in a bit more, or it could be the sativa having a burn out feeling to it. Not that bad, would be good to smoke at dinner and have the indica come on a bit later.
 

LowFalutin

Stems Analyst
Veteran
one of the tastiest strains i've ever grown.
the high was just a little too mongy for my liking tho'.
 
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