Sulfur Bulb Will Revolutionize Indoor Cultivation

What's up fellas. I use to roam OG years and years ago back when she was a "virgin" (if you know what I mean). I left the OG family bout 2004 and when I returned OG was gone
I've spent the better part of three months getting caught up on everything and lurking around here. Figured it was time to drop in and say hello.
Wow so much has changed...so much has happened.
Bio-Buckets...PERTY NIFTY! -I'll save this BS for the introduction section...
Well Anyway, I was going through my old High Times today and I ran across an article from the October 1995 issue called "Lighting The Future". Over the past 10 years I've often wondered if this technology still exists. It sounded so wonderful and then....POOF............never to be heard of again. I've taken the time to type the article for your reading pleasure. I also scanned the mag...check it out.
If anyone has more information on this bulb, please post!!









In October 1994, Fusion Lighting. Inc. of Rockville, MD announced the development of a revolutionary, highly efficient light source. After three years of work, scientist and engineers discovered that sulfur, excited by microwave energy, could be used to produce a very bright, high-quality light closely matching the properties of the sun.
Understandably, The Sulfur Lighting System has been well received by the Department of Agriculture, where scientist are looking for ways to use this energy-efficient source of near sunlight to grow plants in the laboratory. It is this expectation of duplicating the power of the sun that should quicken the blood of growers everywhere.
Throughout the visible light spectrum, the sulfur lamp has bright, full-color characteristics just like the sun. Fluorescent lamps and other HID lamps emit only bits and piece of the full spectrum of colors. The sulfur lamp, however - just like the sun - radiates a broad spectrum of full color. It yields more lumens per watt than current HID designs; therefore, more of the power input is converted into visible light and less into ultraviolet (UV) light and heat radiation. For indoor gardeners, far less waste heat would be able to accumulate in an enclosed space., thereby eliminating the need to use fans or other cooling agents.
The light emitted from one of these sulfur bulbs is equal to over 250 standard 100-watt incandescent lamps. Each bulb, about the size of a golf ball, runs at 5,900 watts, producing 450,000 lumens with good color-rendering properties. Commercial versions of the high-power electrodeless sulfur lamp are currently being developed. The target product is being called the Solar 1000 and is expected to become the most efficient light source on the market.
The Sulfur Lighting System has garnered considerable attention, and Fusion Lighting enjoys support from the Environmental Protection Agency and NASA. The new light source has already been installed at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum in Washington. Three 90-foot pipes, each lit at one end by a single electrodeless sulfur lamp (an electrodeless bulb has no filament or metal electrode within it), have replaced 94 conventional lamps and the results are cause for excitement. Light levels have increased by a factor of three and energy use has been cut by a fourth. Unwanted UV light has been cut in half.
A few blocks away at the Forrestal Building (headquarters for the US Department of Energy) a single 240-foot light pipe, powered at each end by a single electrodeless sulfur lamp has replaced 240 175-watt conventional HID lamps to light the entrance and the roadway outside the building. Light levels have increased by a factor of four and energy usage has been cut by two-thirds. The 3M company has taken the lead in developing and commercializing the light-pipe system.
These current installations are using experimental lamps but Fusion Lighting expects to commercialize the first electrodeless sulfur lamps by next year. They are confident the lamp will find its way into a wide variety of applications within the next two years. The lamps are already proving themselves ideal for lighting large interior spaces such as factories, warehouses, arenas and shopping malls. Additionally, as demonstrated by the installation at the Forrestal Building, they will be perfectly suited for outdoor lighting. Potential applications for architectural and security lighting seem certain.
The cost of the two demonstration projects was less than half of what it would have cost to do a conventional re-lamping. Considering the fact that the experimental installations replaced almost 300 conventional lamps, ballast and fixtures. Fusion expects this technology to be very cost-competitive. The sulfur bulb may, in fact, never need to be changed. Because there is no filament or electrode in the lamp itself, there is nothing to burn out or break. Fusion believes it is possible that the bulb may be usable for many years.
Since the new sulfur lamp is powered by microwave energy, many will wonder whether the lamps are safe. Microwave-driven lamps have been used to produce UV light for over 20 years. The microwaves are generated by a device called a magnetron. This is exactly the same system as the one used in a microwave oven. Furthermore, because the lighting system uses sulfur rather than more traditional mercury used in other high-wattage lighting systems, the disposal of the bulbs will pose no problem for the environment.
Fusion Lighting also wonders whether the sunlight-like qualities of the sulfur lamp might be a bit more friendly to our psychological health. Fusion is seeing a very high level of interest from the Scandinavian countries, where long, dark winters are the norm. The sulfur lamp may prove to be a very practical approach to minimizing the affects of seasonal affective disorder, a form of depression which occurs in some people affected by the dark of winter. There are many ongoing studies in this area. While there are few among us who don't revel in a glorious sunlit day, there is no conclusive evidence that the sulfur lamp will affect our psychological well-being.
Michael Ury, vice president of Fusion Lighting and one of the inventors, says, "The benefits of this light source are just beginning to be realized. To be sure, there is a great deal more work to be done and some problems need to be overcome, but the future is indeed bright".

i want one..

5,900 watts, producing 450,000 lumens

Click to expand...

Does anyone else see a slight problem here?

I do MTF for the same 6k watts I could get more lumens from standard HiD(HPS/MH)

Sulfur lamps are religated to large industrial aplications to this point iirc there is one in the denver area where one long bulb lights about 1 million sqft

i remember that one

i remember that one

hey stealthy yeah i remember that article i tried follow it up .
i was interested at the time.
the broad spectrum would be great.
Low heat out put.
Ive moved to thailand ,geurilla growing now.
12/12 here intense sun regular rain fall.
Just watch the snakes n tigers.

magazine writers

magazine writers

Oh well never mind was just somthin for the mag to fill a few pages with.

This explains why it didnt take and future prospects.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_lamp

thanks

thanks

-EDIT-
MTF-Sandman , Ono Nadagin
I noticed the same thing. The Lumens didn't impress me but I assumed the broad light spectrum made up for the lumen deficiency or something (I don't have to much knowledge in this area).


I appreciate it guys. Great information bob!
It sounded to good to be true...figured it was. Maybe one day we'll get full-spectrum, sunlight-like lighting without to much emitted heat...
pipe dream I guess

Not when this new generation of MJ smoking electrical engineers comes to fruition lol

http://members.misty.com/don/sulfbulb.html
**************** INTRODUCTION ****************

Sulfur lamp technology:
----------------------

There has been quite a bit of publicity lately about a new technology
in lighting - the sulfur lamp. While lighting is not normally thought
of as high tech, you may change your mind after reading these articles.

This document contains a collection of articles and discussions on various
aspects of sulfur lamp technology.

Microwave energy similar in power and wavelength to what your microwave oven
uses (microwave oven parts may actually be used in some implementations)
excite sulfur in an argon filled bulb (other gasses may also be used and
affect the spectral distribution). The small bulb must spin as well as being
forced air cooled to prevent an instant melt-down. The spectra is not quite
like daylight but is broad-spectrum - more polychromatic than most other
non-incandescent technologies. In the current implementation, the bulbs are
very small (golf ball size or less) but are used to illuminate the inside of a
long light pipe which is actually used to distribute and diffuse the light.

The Smithsonian Air and Space Museum apparently has installed 3 of these
to replace over 100 high pressure discharge lamps with a resulting brighter
more natural illumination and reduced energy. They kind of look like overgrown
fluorescent bulbs - a substantial fraction of the length of the exhibit hall.
The sulfur lamps and microwave exciters are at each end.

Unfortunately, it is not clear how well this technology will scale down
to residential use. The excitation requires a microwave generator - magnetron
like in your microwave oven. At the present time, the bulbs need to be
rotated continuously to distribute the sulfur/Ar mixture so there is also
a motor involved. Hopefully, these problems can be overcome economically.

An interesting technology. Stay tuned.


**************** ROB'S DETAILED NOTES ON THE SULFUR LAMP ****************

(From: [email protected] (Rob Penney))

Introduction:
------------

These notes are somewhat out of date at this time (1996), but cover the
fundamentals and include contacts for updated information. I hope this
helps. Anyone west of the Mississippi would like us to research this
further (the latest articles, papers, proceedings, info from manufacturer
and researchers), contact me at the address below and I can do this as part
of a contract with BPA and WAPA to support energy conservation for utilities
and their customers.

Nutshell:
--------

Exciting sulfur and quartz with microwaves creates great amounts of light
with similar properties to sunlight but without the ultraviolet component.

The light is distributed though light pipe for hundreds of feet, replacing
hundreds of conventional fixtures. A smaller version may be installed in a
torch-type indirect lighting system. The lamp itself may last indefinitely,
and the microwave generator may need occasional replacement parts. Lumen
depreciation is negligible, and CRI will remain fairly constant.

Construction:
------------

Sulfur lamps consist of a golf-ball-sized sphere filled with sulfur, quartz,
and argon. It is energized by a 5900-watt magnetron similar to that on a
kitchen microwave oven. The spherical lamp is constantly rotated at about
600 rpm on a glass spindle surrounded by a jet of compressed air. If the
lamp were ever to stop rotating, it would melt within two seconds. The
technology is quite similar to a UV light source that Fusion Systems has
been selling to chip manufacturers and printers for 15 years. Fusion is
planning to release more efficient, smaller models by early 1996, roughly
1000 watts and 140,000 lumens. Lawrence Berkeley Labs is working on a
75-watt version of this for interior lighting. They are also working on
making the magnetron smaller by using more solid state electronics. The
smaller models will not use cooling air and would spin about 1000 rpm. The
technology has the environmental advantage of using no mercury.

The light emitted is reflected by a parabolic reflector into a 10" light
pipe made of acrylic, prismatic film. This pipe is almost opaque on top.

The bottom is made of many parallel, curved, reflective grates which catch
some of the light and reflect in down and out to the sides. The ration of
how much light goes down and how much out to the sides can be varied to meet
design needs. How much light goes out altogether varies along the length,
with more allowed to pass through farther from the light source and less
near the light source, to create more uniform luminance along the length.

The light pipe would therefore need to be purchased in sections, each with
specific characteristics. A mirror at the far end of the pipe reflects back
any light traveling that far. Smaller models may not use light pipe, either
using a more standard fixture or possibly fiber optics. One such
application being considered is to install the light on a 7' tall pedestal
in an office cubicle area creating a powerful indirect lighting system.

Light output:
------------

It emits 450,000 lumens, 310,000 of which are reflected into the light pipe.

The spectrum is closer to visible light than most conventional lighting
sources. The chemistry of the lamp can be varied somewhat to adjust the
exact light spectrum. Light output of lower wattage versions would be less.

Health effects:
--------------

There is a greatly reduced component of damaging ultraviolet light.

Efficacy:
--------

The efficacy of the lamp itself is 450,000/5900 = 76 l/w. If you consider
the lamp reflector as part of the lamp, the efficacy drops to 310,000/ 5900
watts, so 53 lumens per watt. The light pipe is roughly 60 percent
efficient, so the efficacy of the whole fixture is 31 lumens per watt. That
would be reduced further if the system gets dirty or is not properly
maintained. This does not compare well with other light sources which have
efficacies up to 180 lumens per watt, although the CRI of the sulfur lamp is
greatly superior to such other lamps. Looking at fixture efficiency, this
would be 0.7 (reflector) times 0.6 (light pipe), producing a fixture
efficiency of 0.42. This matches very closely that measured by LBL.

Fusion hopes in increase lamp efficiency considerably.

Life expectancy:
---------------

The sulfur lighting system is currently rated to last 10-20,000 hours, but
this is a rough estimate. Because the components in the lamp do not
chemically react and it has no electrodes, the life of the lamp itself
should be quite long. What would probably fail is an electrical component
of the magnetron.

Electrical/mechanical maintenance:
---------------------------------

Because one sulfur lighting system can replace several hundred conventional
light fixtures, maintenance can be greatly reduced. In an area with an
inaccessibly ceiling, this can be an attractive feature. The light pipe
itself needs to be cleaned periodically, probably with something on the end
of a long stick. The electronic components in the magnetron will eventually
need replacing, but that can all be located in a easily accessible spot.

Lumen maintenance:
-----------------

Again, because the components in the lamp do not chemically react, light
output and quality should remain unchanged. However, if the light pipe is
not kept clean, the effective light output will suffer.

Other performance issues:
------------------------

Many of those who witnessed the first installation of a light pipe system
were distracted and surprised by the noise of it. This was primarily due to
the cooling system, probably an air compressor which are notoriously noisy.
Using a single source, a large area could lose lighting if the light source
failed. Systems should therefore be designed with redundant light sources
with automatic backup.

Availability:
------------

Products were expected to be available at the end of 1995. Cost estimates
are unknown, but the system installed at DOE headquarters was reported to
cost one-third that of the mercury vapor system it replaced.

Expert resources:
----------------

The folks most on top of this new technology are with the manufacturer (Kirk
Winkler at Fusion Lighting 301/251-0300) and with Lawrence Berkeley Labs
(start with Francis Rubinstein 510/486-4096, [email protected]). LBL is
doing a lot of research for DOE on applications for this new technology.

Manufacturers:
-------------

Fusion Lighting, Inc., of Rockville, MD, a privately-help spin-off of
Fusion Systems Corp., makes the fusion lamp. 301/251-0300. Kirk Winkler,
x5553. A.L. Whitehead of Vancouver, BC, makes the light pipe.


**************** ITEMS OF INTEREST ****************

This is the only slightly edited transcript of an email discussion between
Sam (>) and Don. (From: Don Klipstein ([email protected])).

> When will we see household sulfur lamps?:

My answer is, not any time soon. Consider the electricity cost of
operating compact fluorescent lamps a few hours a day, and maybe the cost
of the bulbs. How much would you invest up front to cut the electricity
costs by 50 to 60 percent? The return should exceed that of competing
investment opportunities.

There are quite a few minor technical hurdles. The sulfur lamps in use
now are 5.6 KW (or is that 5.9 KW?) units of golf ball size. The Fusion
Lighting Co. (unsure of exact name) is working on 1 KW units. I am guessing
that using a xenon-sulfur mix instead of an argon-sulfur mix might reduce
heat conduction enough to reduce the bulb's diameter by (optimistically) a
half to two-thirds. This would would reduce the power to around 100-200
watts. If you blow a jet of air at the bulb to cool it further, they might
be scalable down to the point that power input is only a few times the heat
conduction loss. I am guessing 30 to 50 watts, as a number out of a hat.

Sulfur bulbs also have a quirk having to do with convection. The 5.6
KW bulbs must be kept rotating. Otherwise, a major hot spot will develop
at the top of the bulb, destroying it in something like 1 or 2 seconds.
Use of xenon instead of argon does not help this much. On a smaller
scale, convection MIGHT not be as bad, but I suspect the lamp will still
need a motor.

Another hurdle is getting 50 watts of microwaves into a target the size
of a pea. I doubt this can easily be done at the 2.4 GHz or so frequency
of microwave ovens. One would need a much higher frequency probably well
over 10 GHz. And the microwave source must still be economical,
efficient, and reliable. And all of this must be done in a manner
satisfactory to the FCC. I don't know if there are any bands in the
10-30 GHz range where such microwave use is permitted. Of course, the
regulations can be changed if the need is great enough.

Since xenon does not ionize as easily as argon, an auxiliary means of
"igniting" the bulb might be necessary. This might be some sort of Tesla
coil, flyback transformer, or trigger coil type of device. Not too
expensive once someone gets in the swing of making the cheapest thing
that works, but it is a minor extra expense and possible aggravation.

Meanwhile, what would be "ignited"? The gas in the bulb, or the air
outside it? Might be a problem if the gas in the bulb has to be at a
really high pressure, and I have little idea what that might be.

Another consideration is the color of sulfur light. Generally, the
color temperature is high. I saw a wide range of 4000-10,000 Kelvin
somewhere (see below for where), but they said it works best with color
temperatures in the middle and upper portion of this range. A color
temp. of 5500 K is an icy pure to slightly bluish white. 6500 K is
definitely a bit bluish; this is the color of "Daylight" fluorescent
lamps. Maybe good for outdoor use away from astronomers, but not a
popular color for illuminating a living room. Furthermore, sulfur lamps
are a bit greenish compared to a blackbody source.

As for filtering this light, maybe things aren't too bad: The #85
Wratten filter is about two-thirds transparent to 6500 Kelvin light, and
converts it to around 3750 Kelvin. A filter gel to convert 5500 to 3750
would be even better, if a mini sulfur bulb can efficiently produce 5500 K
light. If fluorescent materials could be employed to convert some of the
shorter wavelength stuff to red light, things get even better.

If something can be made for under 100-200 dollars and be satisfactory,
we might have something. Otherwise a mini sulfur lamp would be just a
curiosity, conversation piece, or suitable for a few special purposes.

For some bits of info about sulfur lamps, check:

http://www.webcom.com/~lightsrc,
and find the part with the "archive" of older articles. The one about
sulfur lamps is available for a month every several months. The "archive"
rotates in and out some of the more popular articles every month.

Again, I don't expect to find any sulfur lamps in the nearest home
building supply store any time soon.

Discussion on the feasibility of a homemade sulfur lamp:
-------------------------------------------------------

>So when can we build one?

I thought a bit more on sulfur lamps this morning. Don't see problems
at frequencies higher than already used, in terms of microwave
penetration (should be fairly constant as freq. increases past what works
well) or reflection by the plasma (should be even less as freq. increases).
Possible problem with small bulbs is getting microwaves absorbed fairly
completely by a tiny plasma, but adjusting the fill gas pressure will
probably fix this.

As for convection, it not only heats the top of the bulb but also
transports heat from the plasma to the bulb. This may be a significant
energy loss at lower power levels. Efficiency of smaller bulbs may be
significantly improved by rotating them to prevent convection currents.

How to build one? Hardly looks like a DIY to me. Takes quite a bit of
doing to blow a good strong bubble out of quartz. Its trickier than
glass, and also needs higher temperatures. I will check into this in the
library when summer approaches, if there is demand for info on how to do
this in your basement.

MY ADVICE: Don't try this at home. Required materials and equipment
will probably cost thousands of dollars. You need lots of patience and
AT BEST some tricky glassblowing. Prepare for bulbs to explode if flawed.
Stick to Tesla coils, they're easier.

> Would a low power sulfur lamp need to be smaller or could the same
> 1 inch or so bulbs be used?

Underpowering a 1 inch bulb would cause 2 problems:

1. The thermal conduction loss from a plasma at a normal operating
temperature is roughly proportional to the diameter of the plasma. I
believe this would be a surprisingly constant fraction of the bulb's size.

2. Underpower the bulb enough, and the plasma temperature drops, probably
shifting the spectrum to less visible wavelengths and possibly also
causing an undesirable color shift (maybe from greenish blue-white to
whitish green-yellow). Then again, the color might be like that of a gas
mantle, which isn't too bad.

However, I suspect that efficiency and color may be only mildly
impaired by operating a xenon-filled (instead of argon) 1-inch bulb
(1-KW size??) at something like 100-200 watts. Nice idea.

> So, maybe they buy the premade bulbs. Just add a microwave oven
> and stir! Sounds like a recipe.

Sounds nice. May only be able to be sold as part of a kit with strong
warning statements. Consider the similarities to HTI, HMI, and
short-arc/compact source mercury and mercury-xenon bulbs. Of course, the
pressure may not be very high and possibly not much UV gets through
sulfur vapor, and maybe lack of electrical connections makes the
construction a bit simpler and sturdier, and there is nothing toxic or
corrosive (at room temperature) inside. This makes them a bit safer, but
the Consumer Product Safety Commission might not let anyone sell them where
Joe Sixpack would buy them.

However, I like the idea of somebody selling them in kits or through
mail-order. I would probably buy one. I would probably put it in my
microwave oven and see what happens (Goggles on face, fire extinguisher
in hand?). If nothing breaks, I might trash-pick a microwave oven or buy
the cheapest junky one, take it apart, and build a working sulfur lamp.

Yes, I like your idea.

Probably has to wait until sulfur bulbs are produced in great enough
quantities that some could be diverted to hobbyists, or spare bulbs
become available from whoever sells replacement bulbs (I doubt they last
absolutely forever).

> So, take the envelope from a burned out HMI bulb (hey, talk about warnings!),
> back fill with sulfur/argon or whatever. I have a couple of vacuum pumps
> that would probably be good enough. The tough part would be the fire
> extinguisher.

Can't do this with anything that has or had electrodes. Hot sulfur and
sulfur vapor are corrosive to most metals.

Got me thinking however...

If you take a quartz tube and heat one end, you should be able to
squeeze it shut. This will need oxy-something. No torch using any
combination of air and propane or MAPP gas seems to be hot enough.
Quartz takes at least 1600 Celsius or more to be worked. I tried this
with some tubing from a toaster oven. After closing one end, go over
the end with the flame and melt it somewhat to be sure it is closed.
After that, do the same with the other end.

If the proper fill gas pressure (or one that we can make work) is
atmospheric pressure (as measured when the quartz is being worked), then
WE ARE IN LUCK. Just blow gas through the tube before closing it off.
Get a bit of sulfur in there first. Try to work the quartz such that its
overall temperature distribution makes the gas pressure the same as when
you anneal the darn thing afterwards. Annealing requires baking the bulb
for something like a day at 1140 Celsius or a bit more, with the gas
inside at atmospheric pressure. (Or match bulb and oven pressures.)

Or, push your luck and operate the bulb without annealing. Quartz has
very nearly zero thermal expansion, so an unannealed bulb just might not
explode.

If the fill gas must be at some odd pressure, then one must seal both
ends of the bulb, poke a hole in it, and attach a hollow stem to it. One
of us will have to look up how HMI or similar bulbs are made. Then comes
the time to anneal it, then dump in some sulfur, then vacuum, gas, and
seal and pinch off the stem (easier below atmospheric pressure than above).

Since there is no metal, we don't have to worry about corrosion by
contaminants such as oxygen or water vapor. Traces of either of these
would be a big problem in bulbs with metal parts inside. However, these
DO impair starting, and should be minimized.

> Maybe someday.

Seems interesting. I have always wanted to build my own high intensity
discharge bulb, although most of my life I thought in terms of mercury
vapor to do this.


*********** LINKS TO OTHER SITES ***********

Another sulfur lamp FAQ at http://www.sulfurlamp.com/index.htm

**************** REFERENCES ****************

(In no particular order.)

1. "Sulfur Lighting: Emerging Technology Could Challenge HID Light
Sources," E Source Tech Update 94-7, September 1994. Call 303-440-8500.

2. "Electrodeless Lamps: The Next Generation," Lighting Futures vol. 1,
number 1, May/June 1995, Lighting Research Center. Call 518-276-8716.

3. "A Light to Replace Hundreds of Bulbs", by John Holusha, New York Times,
10/26/94.

4. "A New Kind of Illumination That Burns Brightly, but Not Out", by Curt
Suplee, Washington Post, 10/24/94.

5. "A Quick Look at the Sulfur Lamp", by the Lighting Design Lab.

6. "Energy Department Brings Dazzling Bulb to Light", by Curt Suplee,
Washington Post, 10/21/94.

7. "DOE Unveils Revolutionary 21rst Century Lighting Technology", a press
release by Hope Williams and Keith Holloway, U.S. DOE.

8. "DOE Unveils New Lighting Technology", from Femp Focus, Dec. 1994.

9. Journal of Illuminating Engineering Society vol. 26 number 1 Winter 1997
Two papers written by authors affiliated with Fusion Lighting, Inc.