help, Rams Horning.

Hello, i need some help. Theres a certain defeciency associated with rams horning, but with the great database being gone i have nowhere to look. So maybe one of you knows. I transplanted like 5 days ago, and ever since then my plants have been exhibiting the rams horns as well as slow growth. Soil is miracle gro potting mix, and i havent watered since the day i transplanted. i havent used any nutes as theres already some in the soil. i was misting with epsom every couple days cuz i had a calcium/mag def. that cleared up but now i got this.

Doesn't suprise me. Miracle grow plant food is 100% ammonia or urea nitrogen. You never want more than 50% of your nitrogen to be that. The other 50% would be nitrate nitrogen from things they don't use like potassium nitrate, calcium nitrate, or magnesium nitrate. So, rams horn means ammonia toxicity.

Try leaching the soil really well to remove the ferts. If the bag states last 3 months your never going to get it out and will have to repot with something different like promix soilless mix.

If you had both a calcium and magnesium deficiency, why did you spray with just epsom salts? That contains no calcium. Best prevention for cal mag trouble is to incorporate some dolomite lime into your soil mix (mix it really, really well or you will have inconsistant ph pockets) at planting time. Promix contains lime already. You can also add about 3/4 teaspoon powdered gypsum per gallon of mix to supply valuable sulfur.

If your soil mix contains no lime already and you need to add some or you want to add a little extra... Best thing to do is make up a gallon of soil mix with a lime rate. Experiment: Try 2 teaspoons per gallon and maybe 4 teaspoons per gallon. Mix well. Water it really good. Let sit for a week. Take 1 part mix and mix with 1 part distilled water. Stir. Let sit 30 minutes. Test the slurry ph. (Get a ph meter or ph test strips from the aquarium section of a petstore or a brew your own beer/wine store) Aim for around 6 in both soilless and soil grows.

I agree w/ sproutco. your soil is a little hot in Nitrogen.

sproutco? his name says black velvet.

stihgnobevoli said:

sproutco? his name says black velvet.

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it's a long complicated story bro...i wasn't personally involved, just read all the posts...

Black Velvet = Sproutco...it's just his newest name.

i gave em each a gallon of water even though it was only a couple of em with the rams horn. why take chances eh. they all seem to be looking up, the rams horn is still there, lets see what happens in a couple of days.


for future reference, anything i can do to get the roots to grow more in the center of the pot? i just transplanted a week ago into containers 4x larger than their previous homes and the roots are coming out the bottom. i know its not cuz they need to be transplanted again, the roots are just growing along the sides and down to the bottom as opposed to filling the middle of the pot more.

Thanks for all the help guys. 2 short days later and theyre looking better. the leaves are once again unfurling with only the very tips still being curled down on the plants.

stihgnobevoli said:

for future reference, anything i can do to get the roots to grow more in the center of the pot? i just transplanted a week ago into containers 4x larger than their previous homes and the roots are coming out the bottom. i know its not cuz they need to be transplanted again, the roots are just growing along the sides and down to the bottom as opposed to filling the middle of the pot more.

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Sounds like lack of oxygen. Overwatering can cause this. Next repotting, use more perlite to get the soil more fluffy.

MTF-Sandman said:

Black Velvet = Sproutco...it's just his newest name.

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Yo Dummy Up! The man is here to help!

Never said he wasn't :wink: I would have stated so if I came up with a different resolution, but he's got this one taken care of.

Just explaining the comment by a previous member...