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Home pot farm revealed during fire

ReeferCat

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A home fire in northeast Riverside early Thursday led to the discovery of a garage greenhouse filled with several hundred marijuana plants, authorities said.

A 52-year-old man living at the single-story home on Avenida Descanso was taken by air ambulance to UCSD Medical Center for treatment of smoke inhalation, according to fire Battalion Chief Pete Lawrence.

Police officers arrived before firefighters and broke down the door to the home to rescue the man but he told police that the blaze reported by neighbors at 12:54 a.m. was out.

However, the first fire crew saw heavy smoke pouring from the roof of the residence and discovered that the fire was still active.

Lawrence said it took firefighters 15 minutes to knock down the flames, and another hour and 15 minutes to put out the fire. It had traveled up two walls and gotten into the attic over the well-insulated greenhouse, the battalion chief said.

As the firefighters entered the garage with hoselines, they discovered the elaborate greenhouse with the plants being cultivated by artificial lights, Lawrence said.

An arson investigator determined the blaze started in a wall where San Diego Gas & Electric Co. power lines had been illegally tapped for electricity, authorities said.

"These illegal power taps are installed before the residential power meter in an effort to hide the high electrical usage associated with indoor greenhouses," Lawrence said in a press statement.

An SDG&E technician had to cut power to the house from the street because firefighters were unable to safely secure the power to the house due to the illegal power tap.

Damage from the blaze was estimated at $45,000, Lawrence said.

Lawrence said although the garage filled up with smoke from the fire above, none of the marijuana plants burned.

Oceanside police are investigating the case, police Sgt. Leonard Mata said. Whoever is found to be responsible for the operation will face arrest for cultivation of marijuana, he said.

Mata said police were not able to provide a street value for the marijuana plants because they would have to be tested first for grade and strength. It was not yet known if the marijuana was being sold.

"Marijuana grows in homes are not unusual," Mata said.
 

MTF-Sandman

OG Refugee
Veteran
Yet another reason not to steal power...he'd probably never have had any problems if he used used the power coming off the service loop and payed his bill on time.
 
"Mata said police were not able to provide a street value for the marijuana plants because they would have to be tested first for grade and strength. It was not yet known if the marijuana was being sold."

Holy Shit! They are going to test the pot before assiging a street value?! That is a big time first in my book. Usualy they assign the value of everything, including roots and bags the pot is in at $20 -$30 per gram. Wow! we got a million dollar drug bust. yeah, 70lbs!
Convict first, ask questions later!

Also, don't be a jackass and steal power. If you do, then post about how... cause maby then people who are going to do it anyway will get a fucking clue and stop burning shit down. Its just pathetic.
 
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DJ_highst_

what a fucking fool, plain and simple. There is no reason to steal power, unless you are cheap and greedy. You cant get fucked for a high electricty bill, especially now-a-days when people have all kinds of crazy electronic gadgets that suck tons of watts (home music studios, large servers,etc.). If he was growing that big, man up and pay your fucking bill and stop putting other patients and neighbors at risk. I have no simpathey for such foolishness. highst
 
Right on! Think about how much are they making selling that pot, paying the electricity bills should be peanuts for any grower big enough to think he needs to steal power.
 

jbaby

New member
everyone that has posted is a small time grower. one technique police use to catch growers is through HIGH electrical bills. so do you steal electricity, or get busted for using to much? THINK
 
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DJ_highst_

jbaby said:
everyone that has posted is a small time grower. one technique police use to catch growers is through HIGH electrical bills. so do you steal electricity, or get busted for using to much? THINK

sorry but thats not true. there are tons of people who have business that they run out of their house that use lots more elec. than a grow op. and I dont think they are getting their doors kicked in. You cant get busted for high bills period. That just doesnt make sense. If you have a high bill than you grow, what kind of logic is that.

Even the guy in the story was a small time grower, give me break. You think one garage full is big time. You must be small time, if you think that is commercial grow.



 
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Guest

Sounds like a piss poor wiring job and nothing more. I haven't heard of anybody getting nailed for a high power bill in a loooong time. I don't think that's probable cause. I'm sure utility companies, in the business to make money, just love Cali med growing.
 
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Guest

I think there is half truth in what you guys say. Of corse you can get busted by electricity bills... look it up, there are numerous cases.

However, like someone already said, it is almost impossible to get caught just from bills. It is all a matter of where you live and what you live in.

For instance, do you honestly think you can run a couple 1k's in an apartment and not raise any suspicion, even if you pay on time? Wrong.

There are other matters of security as well.
Do you think your phone (even if its prepaid) conversations cannot be listened to at any time and are not on file? Your wrong again. Or perhaps you have a few prgrams installed on your computer and you think your Mr. untouchable with your fake name and addy. Don't be so blind, your more traceble than you think, always. With all the technology in the world anyone can find you pretty much at any time, given the right resources and research.

This is why we must all know our limits. My general advice (may be different on things like the type of building, and the your location within it... etc etc...) is for studio's a 250 maybe a 400, 1-2bdrm apartments I personally would not go above 400 watts, maybe a 600 depending. 1 story houses maybe 1k or 2k, and so forth. At any time no matter how secure you think you are your grow can get busted and most the time you also get busted with your grow.

Where you live also makes a big impact. Don't be fucking stupid and try a 1k grow in states such as Oklahoma or the Dakota's. That might as well be life in prison. Obviously this guy wasn't thinking. Sure it could of worked, but the risk just outwieghed the possibilities. Always watch your back and your grows.

As said in the report, they know house grows are common. They don't really care about your grow unless your disturbing the public, or someone you 'sell' to disturbs the public (which is why I don't sell). They will care about big fish though with hundreds of thousands worth, just for the simple fact of 'untaxed' potential profit, and the extra money with the chains of curruption that it drags around.

As long as the public around you and your grow is safe, kept oblivous and in contempt, there is no reason for them to come looking.
 
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excellent post my friend.. that was some great advice and some pretty scary shit too- what makes you think they have our phone conversations on file? i was thinking, that kinda makes sense.. since everythings gone digital now, it may very well be possible the NSA can digitally record all conversations going on that it pleases and access it later... it might sound far our or paranoid but folks the technology to do that shit is readily available these days, and dont forget the massive budget they work with ;)
 

kush07

Member
Karma right there. Please people, don't steal power. It just helps to further our "bad" reputation with society.

Happy Toking :bandit:
 
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Guest

if you steal electricity or anything for that matter...some thing will be stolen from you...freedom could be it...but regardless you choose your karma when you steal
jbaby said:
everyone that has posted is a small time grower. one technique police use to catch growers is through HIGH electrical bills. so do you steal electricity, or get busted for using to much? THINK

 
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DJ_highst_

Me$$iah said:
I think there is half truth in what you guys say. Of corse you can get busted by electricity bills... look it up, there are numerous cases.

However, like someone already said, it is almost impossible to get caught just from bills. It is all a matter of where you live and what you live in.

For instance, do you honestly think you can run a couple 1k's in an apartment and not raise any suspicion, even if you pay on time? Wrong.

There are other matters of security as well.
Do you think your phone (even if its prepaid) conversations cannot be listened to at any time and are not on file? Your wrong again. Or perhaps you have a few prgrams installed on your computer and you think your Mr. untouchable with your fake name and addy. Don't be so blind, your more traceble than you think, always. With all the technology in the world anyone can find you pretty much at any time, given the right resources and research.

This is why we must all know our limits. My general advice (may be different on things like the type of building, and the your location within it... etc etc...) is for studio's a 250 maybe a 400, 1-2bdrm apartments I personally would not go above 400 watts, maybe a 600 depending. 1 story houses maybe 1k or 2k, and so forth. At any time no matter how secure you think you are your grow can get busted and most the time you also get busted with your grow.

Where you live also makes a big impact. Don't be fucking stupid and try a 1k grow in states such as Oklahoma or the Dakota's. That might as well be life in prison. Obviously this guy wasn't thinking. Sure it could of worked, but the risk just outwieghed the possibilities. Always watch your back and your grows.

As said in the report, they know house grows are common. They don't really care about your grow unless your disturbing the public, or someone you 'sell' to disturbs the public (which is why I don't sell). They will care about big fish though with hundreds of thousands worth, just for the simple fact of 'untaxed' potential profit, and the extra money with the chains of curruption that it drags around.

As long as the public around you and your grow is safe, kept oblivous and in contempt, there is no reason for them to come looking.

great advice, my comments were more referring to someone who was living in a house and not renting an Apt. Your tips are right on for Apts, but high elec. bill ALONE will not get you popped (at a house) unless you are doing other things that raise attention (like you mentioned) peace_highst
 
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I can give you 100 reasons growing should be legal. IMO this Moron and the people who defend him give the "State" an actual good reason not to legalize it. There are a lot of people on the fence about this subject, guess which way he just pushed them.

We all just got burned. With "Growers" like this we will never be Free.
Im glad he didnt kill someone.
 

Mackawber

Member
They had a case like that up in Northern California several weeks ago. The dumbasses were stealing the electricity and their bypass job at the meter and ac bus caught fire.

I suspect thats what happened in the SoCal case.
 

BigCloset

Member
Stealing power, if anything, will make you more likely to get cought! This guy is a serious idiot. I bet this guy grew using miracle grow! hehehehe He probably used halogen lights! hehhehe
 
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Guest

My first electric bill for my current rental was $42.00. Now it runs between $650.00 or more a month. Lots of times I pay every 2 months, walking into the payment center with $1500.00 cash. They don't even blink, just another bill to them. I bet they would love to have 1000k lights in every house=$$$$. My grow mentor who happens to be 90 yrs old and has been growing indoors since the invention of hps lights told me he has never had a problem with the electric company. Don't steal, what goes aroung comes around, that's life. I agree that Paranoia can run high, esp. if you go big. My wife and myself are med patients .
 
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